'day of Rage' - Killings and chaotic violence ramping up in Egypt

violence continues to ask lee in Cairo and across Egypt supporters I love the Halsted for President Mohammed Morsi and the police the military and their allies continue to clash mainly as a result of protests better concentrated centered in Cairo but they are occurring in cities throughout Egypt and now the the violence has been escalating throughout the day and we don't know Inc entirely like specifically how many people died i've seen reports for about 60 all the way up until almost a 100 people now we've had our previous days in this week Wednesday over 300 people were killed I'm so comparatively the violence is a little bit lower but though the Muslim Brotherhood is coming out and saying that they want a week they previously said they wanted a hour per week reconciliation now they're saying the protests that will continue and so we can expect the violence will is likely to escalate throughout the coming days so at let me jump in here with a couple other updates to so as we know on wednesday's violence is more than 600 people killed now in today we have the numbers a John quality but then there's also this the number police have been killed family 67 police officers have been killed in the country since Wednesday and about eight have been killed in various places on Friday so now it is becoming of course more more clear that the Muslim Brotherhood is also are now that doesn't mean they started shooting but apparently it does mean that they apparently have joined in the shooting there's also been Coptic churches that have been burned so the battle battle unfortunately is joined now a some other protests a the cops to say and they're showing videos a Muslim Brotherhood guys firing from the grout but on the other hand reporters that are neutral and independent that are on the scene say largely the crowds and the protesters are all know armed when they first get Shana so that's of course is a whole wide range reporting on this and its kinda a mess in there but that's the best we reports we've got so for yep and you we've we've got a couple pictures will show you in some quotes %uh this quote from other Egyptian Minister of Defense this is a scary quote so Ahmed Ali says when dealing with terrorism the consideration of civil and human rights for not applicable and I mean look there have been some acts of terrorism we we had reports uva as a train lines being destroyed by palms and things like that but for the most part he's talking about terrorism here is talking about people who are unarmed were protesting their gathering and that is enough to warrant charges of terrorism the current situation Cara yet know that quote led me to believe know the military basically says no holds barred work we're gonna kill 'em it isn't it a semi-rigid other quote that's also disturbing and just not as disturbing but it just shows how difficult it's going to be overall to come up with a solution here or even know exactly what it is that we want to do the a this is a quote from the Brotherhood's political wing the Freedom and Justice Party released a statement today and they say they're not backing down and call will continue to mobilize people to take to the streets without resorting to violence vandalism all that part we like but then they say the struggle to overthrow the sludge illegitimate your G regime is an obligation an islamic national more on human obligation which we will not stay away until justice and freedom prevail until they are until the repression is conquered but like you know it's like it's tough man it's a because personal if your doctor if you're going to struggle to overthrow illegitimate regime me you get you're gonna need some weapons yeah I and you know and again the Islamic national more oh I get it that the Muslim Brotherhood of course they're gonna reference that it's the Islamic duty but it's just it seems irreconcilable without one story anywhere about what is secretly happening behind the scenes what negotiations are taking place to bring this the way our right so well leading me to believe that there are giving well there used to be it turns out the European Union and the United States were leading negotiations last week same hey if they're military release a couple the leadership a Muslim Brotherhood Muslim Brotherhood will scale back their protest in the sentence but that was scuttled it and there are some legitimate press reports the was scuttled when John McCain went to Egypt and said it's a coup in the military got really mad an army and apparently just said okay no deal he'd a been a great president %uh yeah but what this would have happened because we our eyes would be on a run which would be in our 4th year our invasion straight so there was interesting idea to also floated last week or maybe the beginning in this week that idea and perhaps coming at the same ago she asians I'm not sure that Morsi would come back on an interim basis for know the idea was that he would come back for I think was sixty days is the right something along that period time before transitioning to a new interim government with elections scheduled now I find that year inconceivable with their its currency the military now well that's good they've that was scuttled by them yes exactly the other ones who said no I don't think so yeah I was Subban made as a geologist who's a protester he's a.m. progressing with the Muslim Brotherhood he said we know they're going to kill us tonight and all your *** the you be our witness witnesses so it's it's a mess then of course there's burning buildings and got a picture that I and then there's a point picture over a woman who was literally caught in the crossfire on a bridge and she can't go to either side because they're firing that serve very telling picture *** terrorist yet clearly I'm either nobody here's a hard thing as a as an outsider as an american looking in the situation there now once they start slaughtering peaceful unarmed protesters in some situations obviously our inclination is to feel bad for them into into you know wish the best for them in the future which does not look right at this point and yet we know we know what their side got up to when they were in power and it's not like well you know these are the good guys and if only they could get back into power than Egypt's future will be bright as an outsider looking in there's no side to support in this anymore yet was so its really interest me you brought up John because it makes me for the first time I it happened about I thing Wednesday it made me think mmm I'm beginning to have strains a libertarian us like not economically n you would think well look I was against the worst to begin with but Big Ben as you know I'm not against always loses against iraq because those insane right and I believe it was against Afghanistan after we say there for about 873 years I was fine with the first couple years rather pro war protest I did I was in fair the persian gulf war syndrome but as I look at my isolationism as a ship no libertarian same get the hell outta the world area okay the Rand Paul's the Ron Paul a libertarian for both yeah and and you know the West clark also knees on a libertarian but was cargoes met totally a dove course was for junior who comes on our show toll in a good book gifts I did get the hell out get their high we're not gonna be able to do think this and as I'm looking over some thinking wat why were we had a min ago she asian *** what we have to do with this was a lose-lose for us the Muslim Brotherhood wins we lose if this dictator like is an indication with his military that's acting like a dictatorship when's the loss for us why do I don't know I didn't know that the libertarian foreign policy met we can spearhead peace negotiations that seems crazy I mean that's that know I know I was just my general frustration saying like we got no role in this get the hell away a door guard to our roller how we're trying to exercise our power in Egypt right now now over the past few days after I i guess in the middle of the week that the large sports about so we saw then other was a lot of criticism in the press about you look at these weapons that we funded being used to slaughter these peaceful protesters which is obviously horrible though i mean that that that money has been dished out for decades now it can be used for most anything at this point but we do know now that although it might just be covering up Brock Obama and other members of the executive branch did contact the military in Egypt and they were trying to get them to back off apparently that the military was not listening not enough they're so pissed about the John McCain thing and but we are trying to I guess in some way the head of something about yeah let's not successfully it let's not kid ourselves this is a horrible situation but I mean can it be worse yeah specific a lot worse at a time no it's not exactly what onward yeah and that they were about I don't think I Senate us in the European Union attempt to defuse the situation or even floating ideas like bringing Morsi back for two weeks which the military obviously didn't want that somehow or hurts us know I thought that you were over emphasizing that all I'm saying is there it is it's not a black-and-white issue and how and no and I I'm tired of being in the middle of all this right eso I don't know how he just gonna sorted out and I wish them luck and I'm scared to death for what's going to happen next well ok let me show you one last picture here more features a body bag see right and as you see this it's hard not to sympathize with the Muslim Brotherhood now I don't and I hope made this clear million per cent I don't agree with their ideology even one percent I'm totally secular I think they're totally wrong that doesn't mean you get to do this to them not only is a bad for the Muslim Brotherhood whose being killed it's a terrible idea for the country and as I look at that picture I think there's a decent chance we're gonna go to civil war interview civil war in the most populous Arab nation that is a recipe for disaster for the law all-world check let me and this segment with this thought just because it struck me as watch those pictures and i was looking at those pictures yesterday and today member when two years ago the military under Mubarak would not fire on the protesting civilians mmm I mean that seems like a whole other generation ago this is the same motor yeah yet and and what I don't want to happen is that the world and US and people like us react differently when they kill Muslim Brotherhood as opposed to when they kill liberal secular revolutionaries I get this was having a little cycle secular revolutionaries I mean would be I don't know what we be doing buddy we wouldn't be having this reaction we'd be having a march much stronger reaction and that's not right and that gives the Muslim Brotherhood a feeling of injustice and and martyrdom which is if you do not want to give by the Muslim Brotherhood the moral high ground before this they had not earned it now you've put in there and it's a terrible idea