"God's Law" Violated By Gay Lawmaker?

representative brian sins in the pennsylvania house he wanted to speak and commemorate the action of the supreme court took and knocking down doma hyphenated for assisting words and he was unfortunately silenced by represented darryl metcalf uh... who later on when and said why he silenced uh... through procedural motion branson's from speaking he said i did not believe that as a member of that body but i should allow someone to make comments such as he was preparing to make that ultimately were just open rebellion against what the word of god has said what god instead and just open rebellion against god's law and now in the wake of that as you can imagine a lot of people in a problem with his comments and there was a lot of support for brian sims out when he eventually did get to speak about spontaneously the entire democratic caucuses joined him which is which is a very moving up display uh... and he uh... sims by the way had a statement he said that uh... after wednesday's decisions by the u_s_ supreme court is past time for pennsylvania to join the twelve states soon to be thirteen because of california are referring to prop eight we knocked down and the district of columbia dot already provide this basic measure of quality and dignity to their residence referring there to uh... bill that he wants to get past which would legalize gay marriage also in pennsylvania right it should be it should be pointed out that and what might have said was not during session he said he would news organizations explaining is actually was this lady is actions uh... which is excuse what he did but just in terms of that the public outcry or you know in the record above the pensive a pennsylvania legislature they cannot reprimand and they can take action against them for words he said outside uh... of uh... the the political discourse but meant you know it would be nice to hear all the democrats getting behind a bit it's always better it's always better when a republican you know sits there in in in in congress and says but you don't wanna probably at the beach the president these are things that are bad uh... like it was a under nixon during watergate will be great if a republican came across and said god i complete my colleague darryl metcalf said these things is not reflective of who we are and you know just takes one just takes one yet right and that kept revealing low hanging fruit that we can just pick on now that the idea of the separation of church and state is is one thing but the idea of jesus verses god jesus you know for two believed the word of the bible's socialist peace lovers daughters were believed the word of the old testament grady *** waffle let and have some problems with that with the word of god we want to separate from that how we as in uh... greatest democracy in the world governors this whole idea that all these people stand on the bible stand above about bible with the secular country and it that doesn't you know what jesus says unfortunately in the political conversation doesn't matter on the people who think that it does are becoming more more marginalized as more americans realize that decision and she's might be crying to this is the bonuses that will serve executive we have poverty uh... you know her preparation for atlantic and cry i mean you know i uh... he would certainly urge more full answer pics that's for sure yeah i i really hate to say hi things to be a very scary like he granted it's it's the pennsylvania house i mean it's not the senate or anything like that but i under what to see this sort of thing i would imagine that that it's twenty thirteen the idea that like their people whose philosophy i guess to some extent relies on the the belief that we are a christian nation i understand that sort of time influencing your views of what policy we should take but two so brazenly say that the action you took in government as as someone who has the power to shut down speech is isn't is explicitly about your interpretation of the bible if i saw this in in the senate for instance i think i would worry for our future because we did see that for us to imagine like he's not going to be censured like because it wasn't actually on the floor maybe the voters will vote him out but that seems unlikely i imagine it's probably a fairly conservative district i don't think that he's going to be punished for this i think that this this view will be less popular in terms of absolute number us the punishment that spring pork punish this guy the other day america's punch in the sky should amin is he going to be shackled now is he going to lose his next election now but his way of thinking is becoming marginalized in america that's the shot and forget to take right now him i mean it's i didn't run for the business of even a serving a life but it you know it the punishment comes in the results and and yes it's it's like when your favorite player on another team has a huge contracting that's a ton of money but his team keeps losing lesson and and and and so it yet you can look at is saying oh he's gate he still has his his seat in in the house what he brings his currency isn't worth very much in an open revolt against god's law maybe we should thank him for inviting them to be in the probability of being in open revolt against god's law if you look at the old testament totally identified and speaking personally had he not said what he had said i never would have heard the term duced waffle in the wake of of the supreme court knocking down doma some republicans see this as an opportunity to try once again to enshrine uh... in opposition said to same sex marriage into the u_s_ constitution now here tim holtz camp he was speaking with c_n_n_'s wolf blitzer and he is not a fan of it he thinks that uh... that this is like the opening they've been waiting for a guest spots here and tell i think uh... given this decision with so i think it shocked a lot of americans uh... and that the court will step this far in accuse bill clinton then uh... and the republican congress of the time of animus in there you know the decision was outrages i think it's going into richa a lot of folks is set for december we gotta protect marriage interdict families and declared children yeah i don't doubt that it will encourage individuals to step forth like him in to say that yet but i think that he's really misreading the political winds in this case yeah i think you know i think first of all the state shocked us not what you know no i don't think any result would have shot here we go with we know the port of split so overdone five four one way or the other if they had ruled against ikea lot of people and i'm really upset i'm really upset shocked i don't think a lot of america was actually shocked by this and they work actually warmed by a one thing that he brought up guys is the thank you dot the way the republicans say appointed democratic using bill clinton of animus up bill clinton don't let happen under bill clinton so to the loaded the conversation about gay americans that had never occurred before it you can expect a bill that would become president said okay gay marriage and gay rights everything benefits full benefits for any everyone purchase would not happen it's impractical to think that just as impractical to think that when he became president first one hundred days of his presidency the first thing he did was try and find a way to get gays-in-the-military it it crushed in the polls it was a it was that politically is silly thing to have done it at that at the time but the first to start the conversation imperfect dot may have been this was the conclusion that conversation he is responsible for why we're talking about this today and not the fugitive and political expediency doesn't always served the will uh... or what's best for the the people this is i want to i want to be the position of protecting the supreme court of united states that which again and again is granted constitutional uh... writes the corporations and and and kind of hijacked our government will people but in this case they do seem to have responded to what the majority of people as we talked about one republicans just like studies have shown individuals do when they're presented with the fact that they are wrong and they're wrong on political expediency they need to be right on whatever moral niche they wanna carpool in cells but they will uh... they will hang their own of double hung themselves the horse themselves in their own petard but i wasn't even a elizabethan phrase but if they don't risk if they don't respond to the the changing wins in this in the changing winds on immigration reform yet and so uh... i i think that it's difficult to telling each individual case what's driving the it did the continued attempts to put this in the past you should think he might very well be a true believer like maybe he's just driven by multiple stab diseases among the most conservative members the house representative he's in kansas he's gonna win with a plurality of the vote until he decides he doesn't want to be a congressman and you know that's pretty clear where he comes from and put you know that's why the house of representatives are different than any other body i mean these guys can and on every issue from immigration to to to derived whatever it was whatever it is they come from specific places like you said the pennsylvania to come from specific places where they're gonna get elected with with with a lot of other a lot of support so they can get there and and there's no rest for them since there but whole scam is an outline yet he is for the other playing is a lot of it is is from kansas lays level he was in from kansas and he does represent a certain segment of the american population that's what represent government as but it doesn't make them any less of a a crazy for one yet if nothing is admitted that they are and that and that interview at least he's not just saying my district a lot of state believes that this this needs to happen he he thinks he can extrapolate that i think are exaggerated and so we sought i'd leave his earlier this year of study that they looked at them uh... they looked at individual representatives bayard district's and both conservatives and liberals especially conservatives vastly overestimated the conservatism of their their districts and i i i assume that his is extremely conservative but he seems to be ensconced in this conservative middle of the country sort of bubble and he doesn't see that there's a change going on in many parts of the country and i think that that's unfortunate similarly to view our new york city los angeles you're going to say you can't believe that they're people who think like they do in kansas and anna that we women of the country above you know what what is kansas not full of creases involved somehow global sia but i don't have and unfortunately boats for tim holsters olympia the thing with with of withhold standards and and his people the false camp if you will uh... if they're gonna be left on the tracks and transvaal by knows what happened throughout the course american history in civil rights prove that also with the day the civil rights act was passed in nineteen sixty five voting rights act was passed people were saying this is an outreach assistant crush america we will change this constitution nor with republican presidents who put in uh... uh... justices who try and change that time after that within richard nixon who gave us you know rehnquist a the very stamp uh... my let's put it on again this i i i dint passed over for so i i i love your reference to bill clinton's first major moving uh... the attempt to allow gays to openly serve in the military because i think it shows how much progress on these two different issues that we can make in just i guess twelve years or something like that about a decade back in the nineties inconceivable that you could have gay marriage such that they passed doma inconceivable that they could that they can serve openly in the military so we had to have a don't ask don't tell but now in just a couple of years we've had major progress on both of those right and so when what was inconceivable and small and seems silly at this time groundbreaking at the time corn absolutely groundbreaking it's like you know allowing blacks to sit on the front of the bus in montgomery but it didn't give them the book you know so you could say that in nineteen fifty as an hour didn't do enough and took took to the johnson years for tat it is absolutely where it started and i think he deserves credit for that even if he was wrong if it happened that no and that was put the progress of surf progress and regressive slide against programs that were detonated in this case