Dance Moms - Tell all part two

You can go ahead and lie about that, but you know that wasn't the problem. You know what? You don't want to go there. It was disrespectful and rude saying she has to hide behind a mask. I did not want to see my daughter being totally humiliated. Chloe gets beat all the time. You make sure of that. I pay Abby to critique my child. You act as though this 90-pound weakling beat you up. When you strike another person, you have crossed the line. Swat. I swatted you, and it probably didn't even hurt. No, no, no, she's not... No, no, no. No, no, no, she... She's threatened by me. Coming up on Dance Moms Tell-All: There was a lot of jealousy. They've been running off customer for years. I'm not here to make friends. It's my kid you're talking about! Honey, I didn't stick my hand up his (bleep) and make him a ventriloquist. Why are they crying?! If they're gonna cry, they're not gonna make it in the world of dance. I don't want people to think it's all about the screaming and yelling. Where were you guys three years ago? *** like you should be shoved down a toilet! We beat you, so that's how crappy I am. Look at your poor pathetic mother over there. Did you just call my mother "pathetic"? I don't care. She's nothing to me and neither are you. ♪ Get up, get on the floor ♪ ♪ My world is with my girls ♪ ♪ Livin' on the dance floor. ♪ (cheering) Hi, everybody. I'm Jeff Collins, and welcome back to part two of our Dance Moms tell-all. The whole gang's back, plus we have a couple of new moms joining us. Our audience has even more questions and the girls are back to perform again. The Abby Lee Dance Company has seen a lot of drama, and things got really heated this season. Take a look. Be grateful that Sophia has come to Pittsburgh and joined our group. It's like going from mediocre to flying first-class. You are committed, and if you leave, you owe her $100,000 cash. Well, thank God I have $100,000. Sometimes we have nothing interesting or intelligent to say, you should just be quiet. And I won't be quiet because I always do have something interesting and intelligent. I disagree on that one. Christi... Yes, I'm speaking. Excuse me? I'm looking you in the eye, ***. ***, let's go if you can't back it up. I'm not that way. You need to settle yourself down. No, I don't! Do not call me a *** if you can't back it up. COLLINS: After a wild and explosive season, Dance Moms Tell-All Reunion starts right now. So let's bring out the star of our show. Please welcome Abby Lee Miller. ♪ ♪ (cheering) How are you? I'm good, thank you. It's great to see you. Mwah! Have a seat. Thank you. Thank you. Ready to this again? All right, let's do it. With the moms walking out at the beginning of the season, it meant that there were new moms that came into the mix. How did Kristie Ray and Jackie fit in with our group? They were nice, they were respectful, they followed my rules. With the other moms... I think there was a lot of jealousy. So how do you think what went on up in the observation mezzanine may have played into running off some of your paying customers here? Oh...(scoffs) they've been running off customers for years. Ridiculous. Critiquing other people's children, ridiculous. COLLINS: So do you think that started right from the start when these kids came in Yes. One of the things that we saw pop up on the blogs and people ask about was they wanted to know why Sophia and Maddie didn't ever compete against each other. What we had planned was for Sophia and Maddie to do a tap duet because Sophia is an amazing tap dancer. And so is Maddie. And you never get to see Maddie do that on the show. So who is a better dancer, Sophia or Maddie? (sighs) I think they're very different dancers. I'm not gonna sit on this stage and tell you that one is better than the other. I think Sophia has had a lot more opportunities than Maddie. I think Sophia is hit-it-hard and dynamic and entertaining and just lights up the stage. And she blows me away. Maddie, I think she hears the music, and it's passionate and it comes from her heart. It's not about the sass and the hitting it hard. It's about the placement. And they're just so, so very different. That's why I personally never wanted them to go against each other because I wanted the two kids to collaborate and learn from each other. I was trying to get Maddie to learn from Sophia, and that never happened. Let's do the same comparison with Asia and Mackenzie. Who's a better dancer? Asia is a rock star. She's an absolutely better performer. If I was to ask her about Bob Fosse and Michael Bennett... I think Mackenzie is more knowledgeable. Mm-hmm. You would do something different if Asia was your student full-time. Well, Asia has learned. She has improved in the last month at my studio. Right. And she's conscious of her flaws. She corrects herself before I even have to step in. And that is a battle that I've won. That's amazing. That's amazing. CATHY: Abby isn't that great of a teacher. What did Abby really teach you? Not really anything. I don't think that, I don't think we brought one thing home from our time that we spent at ALDC that we could use. And Mackenzie has realized very quickly that you got to step up to the plate. Yes. I think that Sophia rocked Maddie's world. (audience murmuring) But Maddie's smart enough to figure out... she used it in a positive way. She was enlightened. I think Mackenzie did the same thing. Yes. Let's take some questions from the audience for Abby. Do you think the other dance moms are jealous of Kristie Ray because of her physical attributes? Oh, uh, yes! So am I! My goodness, her waist is this big, way up here. She's exquisite and she's exotic and she's fun. Pretty, pretty girl. Thank you, Abby. Asia Ray's mom is here. Please welcome Kristie Ray. ABBY: Whoo! COLLINS: Look at that dress. How are you? Come sit. How are you? Oh, look, I get the hug. Yeah! I don't want to mess up her makeup. Wonderful. Wow, it's been a long time since we've seen you. You know, we first met you at Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition back in the summer. So when you went to Abby's studio in Pittsburgh, how was it fitting in with the moms? Well, first, I want to say that Asia loves Abby, and I'm here because I appreciate Abby. And being an outsider coming in here, I knew an outsider is never gonna fit in the world of these moms that have been a group for so long. But I'm not here to actually make friends. I'm here to move my daughter forward, get the training that she needs, and Asia gravitates towards strong tough love that some may disagree with. And since she's been with Abby, I've seen a tremendous difference. So, right now, fitting in is not an issue with me because I'm doing it for Asia. So, tell me this, which one of the moms at the Abby Lee Dance Company did you have the most trouble with? I think they all have issues with me that-- maybe they just don't understand why I'm here. I think they think there's some ulterior motive, Mm-hmm. Well, most people want to leave Pittsburgh and go to LA... ...for their dance career. Like, there's not many opportunities in Pittsburgh. I mean, real... let's be real. So, it just seems odd. I see what she sees. And there's 181 dance studios in Orange County, California, alone. She can get great training right here. But Asia worked with me in a one-on-one Right. and in that 30 minutes... I fixed things. And maybe I'm the right teacher for Asia. ABBY LEE: Yes. And it's also, Abby teaches hard, Well, let me ask you something, do you think these moms are scared of you? No, I don't think they're scared of me. KELLY: Like, we said something about how Asia cries, and it was like she was gonna beat the (bleep) out of Christi. And we were, like, "Whoa, hold back!" They know that I'm not a pushover, Mm-hmm. And I do, you know, have a slight snappiness. (audience laughs) Un poquito. Poquito... But you know what, I don't like something that I feel passionate about and have it, like, twisted or downplayed. And I think that, in some cases, they try to do that. I didn't think that she would rattle anybody's nerves, because Asia is seven. What does little Asia matter? And then we went to a competition, not too long ago. (giggles) And Maddie won, and Asia was second. She beat a lot of those older kids. Wow. That's amazing. So what does Asia bring to your studio that no other kid has? (laughing) Energy! Excitement! She does. COLLINS: I mean, I remember her from Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition-- the kid's bouncing off the walls, like... ABBY LEE: She is, she is. She has a tremendous work ethic. As far as a student goes, and feeding off of her energy, I love it. All right, our first solo of the evening is by Asia, a talented dancer we first met on Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition, and she's here now with a number called "Ready For War." (cheering) (fast-tempo, rhythmic intro plays) ♪ Ponytail... ♪ ♪ Check ♪ ♪ Sweat pants ♪ ♪ Check ♪ ♪ Earrings off ♪ ♪ Check ♪ ♪ Sneakers on ♪ ♪ Check ♪ ♪ Your see I'm ready ♪ ♪ Ready for war ♪ ♪ Don't you forget it ♪ ♪ 'Cause I'm coming for more ♪ Yes. ♪ Ready ♪ ♪ Ready for war ♪ ♪ Don't you forget it ♪ ♪ Ready for war. ♪ (audience cheering) ♪ My world is with my girls ♪ ♪ Livin' on the dance floor. ♪ Asia was crying in the dressing room the other night. Not 'cause I yelled at her. Yeah, 'cause you never yell at her. I told you before, when I quit yelling your kid's name... then you should worry. Kendall! You're chasing her! ABBY LEE: You say one thing to that kid, and "boo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo," she's crying to her mother. The baby. The baby of the group. I thought it was Mackenzie. It's you. (cheering) ♪ Livin' on the dance floor. ♪ COLLINS: Welcome back to part two of Dance Moms Tell-All Reunion. Right now we've got another incredible performance by Kendall, with a number called "Look At Me Now." (cheering) (dramatic intro plays) ♪ Hey, spooky doopy super loopy ♪ ♪ You're super duper bad, like you out of a movie ♪ ♪ You're walking around with a collection of sharp things ♪ ♪ Alarms ring ♪ ♪ He's entered the building ♪ ♪ Hey, killer ♪ ♪ I'm gonna stay alive ♪ ♪ You can't take me ♪ ♪ I'll make it through the night ♪ ♪ It's over ♪ ♪ I plan on walking out ♪ ♪ Hey, stupid ♪ ♪ Hey, look who's killing now ♪ ♪ Now, now, now, now ♪ ♪ Now, now ♪ ♪ Look who's killing ♪ ♪ Killing, killing 'em now ♪ ♪ Look who's killing ♪ ♪ Killin, killing 'em now ♪ ♪ Look who's killing ♪ ♪ Killing, killing 'em now ♪ ♪ Look who's killing, killing ♪ ♪ Killing 'em ♪ ♪ Look who's killing ♪ ♪ Killing, killing 'em ♪ ♪ 'Cause I'm killing 'em ♪ ♪ Killing 'em, killing 'em ♪ ♪ 'Cause I'm killing 'em ♪ ♪ Killing 'em ♪ ♪ Killing 'em. ♪ (song ends) (audience cheering, applauding) Great job, Kendall. So, Kristie Ray, let's take some questions from the audience. Um, at the end of the season we saw things get really heated between you, Christi and Jill. Can you tell us your side of the story? Asia is not typically a seven-year-old who cries a lot. She's very strong-natured, and I think that bothers them. I know they probably say it doesn't, but I think it does, because I do see the children cry a lot. I'm thinking maybe that they're thinking I don't let Asia cry. And then I have Jill telling another twisted story, that I just didn't agree with. Kristie Ray, let's get Jill and Christi's version of this story. They're here. So Jill and Christi, come on out. (cheering) ♪ ♪ Ladies. Hello. Have a seat, have a seat. Ooh, it's chilly. Here? COLLINS: Does it? Okay. So Jill, uh, you-you obviously have a problem with I don't have... I really don't have a problem with Kristie, or Asia. Where the problem started was Kristie came in and said, "We love tough love, and Asia's such a tough kid." And... good for her. Some of our kids aren't as tough. But don't say your child can take all this... when-when she can't. And we saw... And she's seven. It was late one night, she had just gotten screamed at. We're all new people, she doesn't know us... She ran into the bathroom and she broke down. She went to the bathroom. She shut the door, Well, she was directed to go into the bathroom so no one saw her cry. And who did that? Her mother? Good job. No, it was not her mother. 'Cause she didn't see her cry until she came down and went into the bathroom And what did Asia tell you after I told her to tell you: Oh, well, after your discussion in the bathroom, she came out and said, "I was crying because I felt sad for Nia." But I don't believe It doesn't matter to me either. of working and she cried; she broke down. Christi, what do you think about this? Asia being here-- and Abby said it-- she's seven. I mean, I-I actually said to you, like, I really liked you. I think that you had other things going on, to be... to be fair, and I think that you were just sort of in a bad place What kind of bad place? Well, no, it stemmed from it, I just No, but-but when you There was nothing to twist. yes, my daughter's seven, and she's allowed Absolutely. but I think you have a problem because Kendall cries all the time. And I think that-that... Why do I hide it? I don't have to hide... 'Cause she ran into the bathroom and you went in and said, "Don't tell 'em you were crying." I know. ABBY LEE: My problem with all the tears is these are children who are healthy, come from good homes, they all have a mom and a dad in the house, they are getting to dance on national television week after week after week. Why are they crying? There's kids in Pittsburgh that don't have food to eat, I don't think anyone is... I don't think any... I don't think anyone is denying that, but... Nobody asked you. Mm-hmm. It's supposed to be artistic and graceful and fun. I think that there's just bigger things Well, Abby, you think we want our kids to cry? Because you're wrong. Of course there are bigger, better things. You're-you're faulting these children because they have all these things-- so what? They're still human beings. I don't know when crying became a crime. When it happens four times a week. Ease up on them. Maybe they wouldn't cry so much. Well, you know what's interesting is Kristie Ray's out here and she says that because of her background, and her husband's background, that she actually agrees with Abby's method. Yeah, you know what-- Kristie said herself she has another daughter who's different from Asia. I have another daughter who's different from Chloe. Everybody is different. It was almost like she was saying I raised her better than you guys. Never, that's how you... That's what you heard because you must be feeling something that is wrong... Well, you just said that. They're different kids than Asia. Okay, well, if they're gonna cry over what Abby says to them, they're not gonna make it in the world of dance. Okay, well, then you know what? They're not. They're not. They're not. They're not. and know what our kids have gone through. Well, you know, I don't have to be here for three weeks to see with my own eyes what happened in three weeks. I haven't heard so much complaining and whining about someone teaching And what did I tell you about that? If you don't like it, you need to leave. No, what did I tell you about that, Kristie? If it's that hurtful to your kids, you need to be mothers and do the right thing for your kids. If they're crying too much, you need to pack up and leave. Our kids cry-- I mean, Yeah. I mean, there's nothing wrong with crying. Her... her daughter is, like, well-rehearsed. She goes, "I love tough love, Miss Abby." I mean she's so rehearsed. It's just ridiculous. Kristie Ray, everybody wants to know-- are you gonna come back? You know, Asia loves Abby. And, it's all up to Asia. So, it's looking good. So, what do you girls think about that? She poses no threat to the kids. COLLINS: So, she's not... you don't feel like No. I think if Asia was 11, it might be a different story. But she's a hot mess in the group dances. She messes up every group dance she's in. So why would you bring her in? And that came from her, not me. 'Cause that's what she's there to learn. That's why I expect that she will be back, 'cause that's what The longer I train her, the more time I spend with her, the more lessons learned, the better she fits in. So, Jill, do you feel like in any way that if Asia does come back to the studio that she would be taking Abby's attention that-that... maybe Kendall might be getting? When there's-there's seven kids and then there's eig, that means her attention is divided eight ways instead of seven-- so it affects all the children. So it does affect... I actually would like Asia to come back, and I said there was a lot of kerfluffling going on with Melissa and Mackenzie, and I would love to see them compete. I would. And I said that to you; I said I want them to come back, because I think that that would be a very interesting showdown. (audience murmurs, whoops, applauds) ♪ My life is with my girls ♪ ♪ Livin' on the dance floor. ♪ Be grateful that Sophia has come to Pittsburgh CHRISTI: Abby thinks she's the... amazing superstar. MELISSA: Right, and she's gonna beat our kids every time. ABBY LEE: Maddie, I think before Sophia was here you hit those accents. You just seemed like... (snaps fingers) a day late and a dollar short. ABBY LEE: Maddie will never get her spot back with Sophia around. ♪ Livin' on the dance floor. ♪ Welcome back. This season, we met an incredible dancer. She's here tonight to perform her solo called "Suprstr." Please welcome... Sophia. (applause, whooping) ♪ S-U-P-R-S-T-R ♪ ♪ Let's party like a superstar ♪ ♪ S-S-U-P-R-S-T-R ♪ ♪ O-O-U-R a superstar ♪ ♪ S-U-P-R-S-T-R ♪ ♪ Let's party like a superstar ♪ ♪ S-S-U-P-R-S-T-R ♪ ♪ O-O-U-R a superstar ♪ ♪ Hey, Mr. Deejay, when you play this at the club ♪ ♪ Don't forget to turn the bass up ♪ ♪ On the supersonic subs ♪ ♪ I'll be dancin' on the floor ♪ ♪ Moving to the far floor ♪ ♪ When the beat's about to drop, I'll be ♪ ♪ The first to make it pop, pop ♪ ♪ Everybody gonna wanna be a superstar ♪ ♪ Just because you have a license ♪ ♪ Doesn't mean you own a car ♪ ♪ So grab a pen and paper, 'cause you need to realize ♪ ♪ I'm on top and I won't stop because the charts ♪ ♪ Don't ever lie ♪ ♪ S-U-P-R-S-T-R ♪ ♪ Let's party like a superstar ♪ ♪ S-S-U-P-R-S-T-R ♪ ♪ O-O-U-R a superstar ♪ ♪ S-U-P-R-S-T-R, let's party like a superstar ♪ ♪ S-S-U-P-R-S-T-R ♪ ♪ O-O-U-R a superstar ♪ ♪ S-U-P-R-S-T-R ♪ ♪ Let's party like a superstar ♪ ♪ S-U-P-R-S-T-R, let's party like ♪ ♪ A superstar ♪ (slowing, distorting): ♪ S-S-U-P-R ♪ ♪ S-T... ♪ (song ends and audience cheers, whistles, applauds) COLLINS: That was great, Sophia. Thank you so much. All right, so, Melissa has joined us. Abby, you have said that Sophia is the new Maddie. On the Abby Lee Dance Company competition team, yes. Maddie wasn't there. (audience groans, jeers) So, how do you feel about that? It is what it is. I mean, I think that Maddie has learned from Sophia, (laughs) she rocked her world, just like Abby said. Right? She's not gonna give you a compliment there. That's all right. I'm okay with that. Does it bother you that, um, that Sophia can out-spin Maddie? No. I mean, Abby doesn't... (laughs): "Out-spin." JILL: It's a turn. A turn, okay. But, no, because Abby has not taught Maddie how to do that yet. I don't want my daughter in the world record for turning. ABBY: You know, if I may, Sophia, you know, Mm-hmm. of these children. And what they do with their talent is up to them, their parents, their teachers. Kudos for that. Does everybody need to do that now, to copy that? No. Do your own thing, be your own person. So, how do you feel about her mom, Jackie? How did she fit in with the group? Who cares? (laughter) I thought she was fabulous. She left our group dance. She didn't show up one morning. I just can't be a hypocrite like the Wicked Witch from the West. Ah, who's calling the, uh, kettle black here? You know, I want to train the kids. I feel that Asia is at our studio now, training. If Sophia wanted that, Sophia would get that. COLLINS: Okay. So, let's talk to Sophia's mom right now. Please welcome Jackie. Jackie, come on out. (cheering) Hi. Sorry. Thank you. So, Jackie, welcome to the group. So listen, there's a rumor going around-- did Melissa and Kelly I think that... for me, as a mom, I don't want my daughter growing up and thinking that the behavior that I saw-- the fighting, the screaming, the putting down, the yelling between each other-- I don't like that, and dance isn't about that for me. It's an art, and for my daughter, this is her passion, and I don't want her to have these experiences where it's negative. All right, I need out there. 'Cause I want to ask that woman... wh-why I would have taken her off of this team. I was nothing but nice to that woman. It's my job as a mom to protect her, and... I think that was my main concern for staying on the team. I just want our kids to be seen in a good light. I don't want people to think that it's all about the screaming and yelling. When they see our kids, I want them to see what great kids they are... and not us moms. I do think that. I'm really appalled at how you started out this situation. Because Maddie was with me last night when I taught a master class, I have made your kids' name a household name. I agree with that, Abby. If she was running around the dance competitions in Pittsburgh, she wouldn't be a household name. She'd be a competition kid. I think that you... you have made my kids what they are. But you have! KELLY: Let Melissa fight her own battles. (bleep) drives me crazy. Yeah, but Melissa needs to stick up for her-herself. She needs to stick up for herself. I mean, somebody's always fighting Melissa's battles for her. So, you're the total antithesis of Asia and her mom. I mean, really think about it. Like, she's here specifically to learn from Abby, to get her name out there. The thing that I was gonna say to you is that she also believes that she doesn't want Asia to peak too soon. By making everything so rosy and not having any Well, Sophie gets critiques all the time. Sophia doesn't always win, you guys. Like, I know that... that may be, like, what everybody thinks, but when MELISSA: Mm-hmm. And she's, like, "You know what? I'm gonna work hard, 'cause I can do that." COLLINS: Mm-hmm. Jackie, do you think you'll regret leaving? No, I hope I don't regret it. This is about my daughter, not about me. I know this sounds crazy to everybody, but there's just a little tiny bit of me in Sophia. (laughter) And I'm not talking about JACKIE: That's funny. It's that, like, moxie. She told me that at her studio, back in California, that she assists with the little preschool classes. She said, "And I'm really mean. I can even make them cry." And I said, "Oh, my God, it's Mini Me! I love this kid!" (audience laughing) God, she takes credit for everything, doesn't she? ABBY LEE: That's not what you told her. MELISSA: But I think that you... Maybe Abby's God, and we just don't know it. What do you think, Holly? She has told me that. Does she kind of resemble...? Does she resemble those pictures in the Bible? No, no, no-- Abby and I get into it about that. Let's take some questions from the audience. Who has a question? Hi, Jackie. Um, do you feel like you think that Sophie can outdance Maddie? I don't think that Sophie and Maddie should ever be compared to one another. It's kind of sad, because I think America would like to see them go against each other, but somebody's always gonna win, and somebody's always gonna lose. CHRISTI: Mm-hmm. In the end, Mm-hmm. However, I want a strong team, so, I think, with both of them on the same team, that's gonna be Mm-hmm. I think it would. ...to find the other dancers that match that talent. Or... I have to create them. (applause and cheering) ♪ My world is with my girls ♪ ♪ Livin' on the dance floor. ♪ COLLINS: Coming up... JILL: She won't answer anybody's call. Sophia's not here. I know. I don't know where she is. It's about time you got back here! Is she talk...? Do you guys hear that? Welcome to the avalanche. Sophia will be doing a solo. So, Maddie or Kendall might not be doing a solo. (applause and cheering) ♪ Livin' on the dance floor. ♪ Welcome back. Now a performance that won first place in Greensboro, North Carolina. It's Mackenzie and a number called "Lemonade." (applause and cheering) ♪ L-E-M-O-N-A-D-E ♪ ♪ L-E-M-O-N-A-D-E... ♪ ♪ L-E-M-O-N-A-D-E ♪ ♪ She's sweet as lemonade ♪ ♪ Bright as a sunny day ♪ ♪ She's sweet as lemonade ♪ ♪ Bright as a sunny day ♪ ♪ She's sweet as lemonade ♪ ♪ Bright as a sunny day ♪ ♪ She's sweet as lemonade ♪ ♪ Bright as a sunny day ♪ ♪ L-E-M-O-N-A-D-E ♪ ♪ L-E-M-O-N-A-D-E... ♪ ♪ L-E-M-O-N-A-D-E ♪ ♪ L-E-M-O-N-A-D-E... ♪ ♪ L-E-M-O-N-A-D-E ♪ ♪ L-E-M-O-N-A-D-E... ♪ ♪ She's sweet as lemonade. ♪ (song ends) (applause and cheering) COLLINS: Great job, Mackenzie. Abby is backstage. I'm here with the women of Dance Moms, so, Kelly and Holly, I want to start with you. You guys were backstage when, uh, Jackie and Kristie Ray were out here. I have invested a lot of time in Abby's studio, with my daughter, and having two moms come in... I don't know them. Um, there's nothing against them personally. They seem to be lovely people. But to have Abby talk so negatively about us... We've been loyal customers. Mm-hmm. And our children are products of her teaching. It is insulting. JACKIE: Why do you stay? HOLLY: Nia has improved, and she continues to improve, and that's why I stay. Nia likes Abby. She loves her team. That's why I stay. And Abby challenges them every week with new choreography. I think, too, you have to understand-- we were a group of moms who have been together for a long time. And I really believe that we all deserve to be here. You know, where were you guys three years ago? This isn't about me. (overlapping chatter) So, what changed your mind? I wanted to see what it was like, and here I am. So...? Well, I have a bone to pick about that. You had said that you thought that Melissa and I had, like, pushed Sophia and Jackie out of the studio. I was nothing but nice to you. As a matter of fact, everybody said I was dropping Christi as a friend for you, and... You were very nice to me. But you're saying to people that I made you leave the studio. And I remember that day, yeah. I didn't say to anybody that you made me leave. I left on my own free will. COLLINS: Let's find out what kind of questions the audience has for you. Who has a question in the audience? Hi. So, my question is: This season it seems like Cathy has kind of dominated the competitions. Are you worried about the future competitions? Cathy's team-- those boys are much older than our girls. Mm-hmm. And-and they're different dancers, and they're teenagers, and it's like comparing apples and oranges. I don't even think that it's that they're older. These girls came to Abby's studio at two years old, and danced from then till now. And if we win or lose as a team, who cares? Yeah. We're a team. We didn't handpick our team. We are who we grew up with and who we were taught with, and that's what counts. (applause and cheering) COLLINS: Well, sincall of you have something to say about Cathy-- Cathy, come on out. (applause and cheering) COLLINS: Here she comes. Hello, madame. How are you? Have a seat. Cathy, you've been doing really well this season. CATHY: Very well. CATHY: Oh, yes, it is. Lots of people. So, what's your... what's your strategy? Uh, you, know, it's a happy environment. The boys are very, very happy. They don't get yelled at. So that says something in itself. You can produce without screaming and yelling. COLLINS: So... if you could have any dancer, who would it be? I know exactly who it would be, and it's probably gonna shock her pantyhose right off of her. I knew. Ooh, and she didn't shave, either. I would. CATHY: Well, anyhow, that's... It's not working for you, babe. You got stubbles. Anyhow, I would choose Chloe. And the reason I would... Would you dress her up in a meat suit? No, I wouldn't. I would choose Chloe because I know that Abby would love to get rid of her. She doesn't realize that she's got a little hidden pearl, and I think that if... Well, thank you, Cathy. That's actually nice of you. ...Chloe would come to my studio... ...Christi would probably have a good time bantering back and forth with me, Let's not get crazy. ...treated nicely. I don't know. I mean, this is her team. I'm not willing to just walk away from a team. Talk to me at some point, or... Well, now, wait a minute. Yeah, I know. Yes. I'm not giving you a proposal. I'm not... I'm not taking it as a proposal. Yeah, okay, good. I'm saying, even just thinking of that-- 'cause Jeff just alluded to that-- I'm saying, I don't think Chloe would walk away from her team. Well, at some point, you're gonna get to the point where the straw breaks the camel's back... so, you know, that that's my thoughts and it's not a proposal, but I think it was very nice and noble of me Oh, Cathy, you are nice and noble; thank you. COLLINS: Let's go to the audience and find out who has a question for you guys. Cathy, um, I was wondering if you would have any of these moms babysit little Vivi, which one would you not pick to babysit? I would not pick Christi. I would not... I would not pick Kelly. I would definitely not pick Jill 'cause I just don't like her. I would probably pick Holly COLLINS: All right, who else in the audience has a question for Cathy or one of the moms? Cathy, I've heard that your favorite show is Downton Abbey, so I'd like to know which character you think fits you best and which character fits Abby best. I think that I'm a little bit like Mary, and... I don't think that there is a car... Oh. (laughs) I said "a car." I don't think that there is anybody like Abby other than the car that drives around in a circle to pick up the people. (laughter) She doesn't have the class for that show, in my opinion. All right, so thanks, ladies, and thank you, Kristie Ray and Jackie, for your honesty. After the break, Abby returns, plus there's one more incredible group number by the girls. ♪ Livin' on the dance floor. ♪ ABBY LEE: Crap like you It looked like you were, you know, about to hit the wings, so i-it showed on your face. KELLY: You're not her dance teacher, She does it enough. Maybe you should get a refund 'cause those knees were bent, ABBY LEE: All right, look, this is a dance competition. I've had it. I hope you're happy. Now my kid's leaving. Don't you touch me. Don't you touch me. ♪ My world is with my girls ♪ ♪ Livin' on the dance floor. ♪ All right, welcome back. As you can see, Abby's joined us. So, Abby, Cathy says that when you go to the competitions that... lately, you completely ignore her, that you won't even look at her. She just really doesn't exist in my world anymore. She struck me. (murmuring, gasping) I think that Abby is acting ridiculous over what happened, and I think that the way that she's carrying on about this is more than the swat with the handbag. Abby is upset because somebody now is maybe... interfering with her thunder. And, you know, you have a lot of thunder to give, and I'm not saying that nasty because you're a large woman. I'm saying that because you have a great team, but you are carrying on like a brat. I'm an only child; Well, you know what? I'm an only child, too, though, Abby, and I don't... and I don't... and I don't... (audience murmurs) Uh, did you just call my mother pathetic? Yes: Poor, pathetic. Oh, my gosh. I'll tell you what, Abby, you really know how to win friends and influence people. You know what, Cathy? Crap like you should be shoved down a toilet, and that's it. Abby, before this show came about, we competed three times against you. And two of those three times, we beat you, so that's how crappy I am. I had an eight-year-old beat your 12-year-old for a grand national title in New York City. Time-out. Time-out. There's no time-out, Abby. Abby! You're paddling upstream, sweetheart. It's over. No. No. No, don't start Oh, yes. Yes. Look at how Mackenzie's improved. Okay, but... I watched her last week in the so... in her dance. Her bent knees and she could barely do the choreography. You are... you are out of control. You are out of control, Abby. You know what? No, because I'm not talking about your kid. Well, you were talking about my kid in that audience. No, no, no, no, no... This gets a little ridiculous. I was not even talking. She was conversing with Anthony, But he was your choreographer, so you were responsible for him. Well, honey, I didn't stick my hand up his (bleep) Maybe you did 'cause you say I do that to Melissa. I didn't do it to him. He can talk how he wants. And if your kid is always behind in-in-in rehearsals or in the dance, My kid's not always behind! My kid's not always behind. she doesn't know how to coach. I think that all of you ladies are very, very tacky. You attacked my 12-year-old. You just attacked my daughter. If your kids... But your kids are up onstage dancing. The only child on this team that did not dance today was Paige And that's my fault? Oh, please, Kelly. Oh, please. Puh-lease. She probably didn't dance today because Abby No. Paige don't want to go onstage because she's a horrible dancer, Uh, how about starting with your own teacher? (audience murmurs, groans) Okay, and I think she's the root of it. I think that-that your problem... She's fabulous. And she might not be as good as Sophia Those are not... You know what? (cheering and applause) Christi, did you... did you know that Paige decided not to dance today because she... was in a bad space? It was not my decision to pull Paige's dance. Paige asked me to pull her dance. When you called Paige over to hear Cathy's choreographer's critique, do you regret doing that? No. Absolutely not. Paige was a hero. I thought once they realized that they had crossed the line, that they were hurting feelings, Oh, and you ...and that... It doesn't matter, you just And she had her phone on. I don't care. She's nothing to me and neither are you. Well, you're nothing to me either, Abby, but a big blob. If you guys want me out, Abby, do your magic. Do your magic. COLLINS: All right, ladies, I know it got a little heated out here. Thank you so much for sharing your honest opinions. Right now we're gonna take a look at our very final performance of the evening, and this one's about Rosa Parks. Take it away, girls. (cheering and applause) (slow, gentle intro playing) ♪ One bus leads to another bus ♪ ♪ Leads to another bus ♪ ♪ Leads to another bus ♪ ♪ Leads to a train ♪ ♪ Is she mine? ♪ ♪ Ooh, I ♪ ♪ Won't believe my eyes ♪ ♪ Is she mine? ♪ ♪ Ooh, I ♪ ♪ Won't believe my eyes ♪ ♪ One bus leads to ♪ ♪ Another bus leads to another bus ♪ ♪ Leads to another bus ♪ ♪ Leads to a train ♪ ♪ To a train ♪ ♪ Is she mine? ♪ ♪ Ooh, I ♪ ♪ Won't believe ♪ ♪ My eyes ♪ ♪ One day I was another shape ♪ ♪ I was another shade ♪ ♪ I was the one awake ♪ ♪ She was the one... ♪ (cheering and applause) Great job, ladies. What an exciting season it's been, and there's a lot more Dance Moms right around the corner. I can't wait to see what's coming up next. So, thank you, girls. Thank you, Abby, and thanks to all the moms and Cathy for an incredible season. And, uh... and, you guys at home, thank you and... ALL: Good night! ♪ Livin' on the dance floor. ♪ Captioning sponsored by A&E TELEVISION NETWORKS