Conversation with Divaldo Franco - Jesus - Part 1/3

Mansion of the Way - Salvador / BA . Conversation with Divaldo Franco It is on the air another program "Conversation with Divaldo Franco". Today's program is very special. After all, Christmas has come. And the most important is the commemoration of someone's birthday who is very, very special. Jesus! Follow the interview with Divaldo about this being so beloved... Some religions claim that God and Jesus are the same person; some movies and books introduce Jesus as a normal person, with conflicts like everyone else, including *** area. They also claim that he has faltered when he said "Father, why have you forsaken me?". How does Spiritism introduce Jesus? It's neither one thing, nor the other. According to himself: "I am son of man. "I come in the name of the Father who sent me. "I am the way, the truth and the life. "No one comes to the Father except through me" and etc. He performs demonstrations that he is son of God several times. When it is said that Jesus and God are the same person, it is because of a tradition of Babylonia and Chaldea: the doctrine of the Trinity, which, present-day, has been totally superseded, because as son of God, he (Jesus) is therefore our brother. If he were God Himself, it would be created a disturbing paradox: Mary is daughter of God and mother of God simultaneously. So, we see a logical conflict that cannot resist to the least rational observation. On the other hand, comparing Jesus with a common man, plenty of passions, is vulgarize him. Let's see Gandhi who was one of the missionaries of the Universal Love. He reached such climax of high evolution using his *** energy without vulgarity. Because the *** contact is sublime. Thanks sex, life is perpetuated, at least among animals with *** reproduction. So, Jesus wasn't slave of such material imposition... He was, in essence, a superior being and didn't need exercise these functions as ourselves in our current stage of evolution. He already came to us as a Perfect Spirit. It is also natural that his body was superior to ours. If we analyze someone's body who works in jobs which demand physical efforts, and we compare them to aesthetes, poets or literates' body, we'll notice that, even from the physiological point of view, there are big differences. The emotional structure is very unlike as well, to express this "archipelago" of objectives which constitute the existential goals. When Jesus says: "Father, why have you forsaken me?", this thesis has been very controversial among the theologians, because Jesus did not say "Father", but he said "Lord, Lord, why have you forsaken me?". There is a tradition trying to prove that it was not Jesus who said these words. When the "good" thief - indeed, there is no "good" thief and nor "bad": they are all thieves -, Dimas, who tried to do beneficence through the stealing, when Dimas recognizes Jesus as his superior, he says: "Remember me when you come into your kingdom", and Jesus answered: "Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise." But Jesus didn't mean "today" but "a day". At that moment, while Jesus was suffering, Dimas realized that Jesus was dying and claimed: "Lord, Lord, why have you forsaken me?" Due to the confusion around, these words were given to Jesus. When Jesus says: "Father, why have you forsaken me?" or "Lord, why have you forsaken me?" - even if he had said -, he would act like that to show us a touch of humanity. He already knew why he had come. He has emphasized his resignation of giving himself to the holocaust. At the Last Supper, he said to Judas: "Go and do what you have to do." In the Garden of Olives, when the enemies were coming, he said: "Who is it you want?" - Jesus of Nazareth. He said: "It is me". And Judas kissed him... So, it is an way of disfiguring Jesus' words, making him an ordinary person. Let's figure out, ad absurdum (by absurd), he was an ordinary person. Who is the ordinary person who does what he does? Or he was really a High Degree Spirit, or everything he did, or it is written about him, would be inevitably a mistake, a lie. So, Spiritism recognizes Jesus as son of God, as Noble Spirit, without any fault. Christmas, birth of Christ! Unfortunately, most people link Christmas to Santa Claus... But, in fact, December 25 is the date of the birth of Jesus is commemorated. It is curious that the historians consider this date as a very improbable day of the birth of Jesus. The most plausible date for the birth of Jesus, according to most historians, would be April. What was the correct date of the birth of Jesus? If we ask Paulo of Tarsus, perhaps he should answer: "It was at doors of Damascus..." Asking Peter, the answer, probably, should be: "When the rooster crowed..." Doing the same question to Francis of Assisi, it is probably that Jesus had been born in the day of the saint of Assisi heard the sentence: "Francis, can't you see my house falling into ruins? Repair it for me!..." And if we asked Mother Teresa of Calcutta about the date in which Jesus has been born, maybe, she would answer: "When I left the convent to help the poor..." And for Chico Xavier, the apostle of mediumship? When has Jesus been born for Chico Xavier? Who knows if he would say: "He has been born when my spiritual mentor Emmanuel recommended to me: "Discipline, discipline, discipline..." And about you? Has Jesus ever been born in your heart? What are you waiting for following the Star which has guided the Magi and which shines since long time ago for every one of us? Let's follow, as soon as possible, the path of love which leads us to the Manger Scene of Christ!... How was the incarnation of Jesus prepared? Do you know who is Joanna of Chuza? So, stay where you are, because coming soon, Divaldo will answer this question and others. We'll back soon!