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I'm Emily Goligoski with Women 2.0's In Conversation series.
Here with Tara Hunt, she's a marketing strategy consultant
and the co-founder of Citizen Agency, an internet consultancy
that specializes in community-centric strategy.
I started Citizen Agency about 2.5 years ago, almost,
actually almost 3 years ago and it was founded
based on thinking about marketing a little bit differently.
Previously marketing has been thought of
sort of like putting a voice in the company
to go outwards and capture an audience
and that sort of thing and both my business partner Chris Messina and I
had really strong feelings about putting the customer
at the center of marketing so we like to say we, our customers,
our clients are our clients' clients
so we like to listen to the customers of our customers
and we think that's a better strategy and it's proven to be so.
What brings me in every day is that I get to work
in the way that, on my own terms, in the way that I believe
so no matter what day I wake up if I stop believing in what I do
I can switch gears. It's the beauty of being a consultant.
I, you know, saying, the other night it's taken me longer
to get where I wanted to be. I remember thinking in my early 20s
that I want to be you know, this big success.
I want to be in this place I had imagined for myself
by the time I was 30 and so now I'm 35
and I'm finally feeling like I'm getting to that place
with my book coming out at the beginning of next year
and speaking a lot and being seen as an authority
but I did it on my own terms. I didn't take any short-cuts,
I didn't elbow anybody out of the way. I have very much done it in a way
that I can feel ethically sound about. I also feel like I made a lot of friends
on the way instead of enemies, that sort of thing.
But definitely, I mean the beauty of being a consultant
is that you do have that you know, if you do it right
you have the freedom to choose what kind of clients that you work with
and then you can also influence clients that might need influencing
in the right direction so when I say being customer-centric
it's not just a marketing ploy. For me it's an important part
of the revolution that's happening online and offline
with you know really levelling out the playing field
so that's what I love about what I can do.
I can couple my passion with the way that I make, I make money every day.
Don't spend money that you don't have. Don't go in debt on credit
with your business. Grow it slowly, step by step and pay for what you have
when you can or when you need to, when you have the money in the bank
sort of thing. I made, I had a company previous to Citizen Agency in Canada
called Rogue Strategies, really I mean, based a lot on the same principles,
very you know guerilla marketing sort of stuff online/offline
and I decided to really go all out with putting myself out there
in the beginning buying brochures, paying for a fancy website,
putting all sorts of money out for like lunch parties
and traveling all over the place to meet people
and I didn't need to do that. I just needed to build the company
client by client and then I ended up in a lot of debt
which was really hard for me to transition then my company
to the next level when I needed to
because I had sort of spent everything up front.
Young women interested in entrepeneurship
should definitely do it and convince all your other,
other young women around you that they should be entrepeneurs as well.
I know it's scary, I think, I don't think as,
maybe it's changing now but when I was growing up
the whole idea of a woman becoming her own boss
was not really commonly accepted so this might,
I'm hoping that this is changing, for sure, for young women
so you know, if you're thinking about it
it's not as scary as, it actually doesn't give you any less job security
than you have if you get a job somewhere,
especially you know, look around now with all the layoffs etcetera
that are going on and people are like oh my God,
I thought I was set there for the next five years
and I just say you're never set anywhere
for the next five years and the beauty about being an entrepeneur
is that you can make your own success.
I heard some of the best advice I've heard from Mary Hodder,
a fellow female entrepeneur who said build your business model from day one
to your start-up. No matter you know, whether they say build community
and then the money will come. You should have a business model
from day one, whether it's a subscription service
or affiliate program or whatever, just build it in from day one
and that will make it so that you can be
more customer, community-centric and not worry so much
about somehow flipping that in the future.
Those companies that couple their passion
with their business model sort of thing,
so you know Emily Chang and Max Kiesler with Ideacodes definitely.
Their passion for design as well as the kind of projects they take on.
People like Stewart and Katarina with Flickr,
maybe even companies like Timberland the boot company
that has a lot of purpose in what they're doing
as well as Stonyfield Farms which makes the organic yogurt,
they've always had passion with their profits.
Craig Newmark with Craigslist, you know different companies like that
that ethically get to where they want to get
and because of that, you know this is a long-term sort of thinking,
sort of process and those are the companies
that I've always modeled the kind of business that I want to do.
I like making money, don't get me wrong.
I love being able to pay my rent in San Francisco
and go on nice trips and that sort of thing
but I think that'll come when I'm doing something that is purposeful
and that I'm passionate about and that the world needs.