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Today I am with Anita Moorjani , my friend. And if you don't know her yet
she is the author of "Dying to be Me".
And she had a very miraculous
cancer remission in 2006, and according to several
oncologists she should have died then. So if you want to learn more about her it's in her
book and
on her website. So today I want to talk to Anita about health,
about healing.
You and I know people who are always
eating the right foods, and always eating organic,
doing all the "right" things, detoxing twice a year
and all that. But yet they don't seem well, they are still sick or they are not
getting
well so what do you have to say about that?
I like that, I like that topic a lot, because that was me,
that was me years ago. I am going back like more than 10 years ago. 10, 12,
15 years ago.
I was doing all the
"right things" as we say...But that was before
you had cancer.
Even before I had cancer.... I was detoxing, I was
eating vegan food, I was growing my own wheatgrass before it became fashionable
to do that, I was eating organic
again before it was fashionable to do all these things
and I was obsessive. I was getting all the supplements, the cancer prevention
supplements.
I was researching and reading cancer prevention books
and guess what? I got cancer. And it's not
not even in my family, I am not genetically predisposed to get cancer
and yet I got cancer. But if you ask me today
I know exactly why I got cancer.
Which is? I lived a life of fear, every single
thing I did including eating healthy
I did out of fear. So I ate healthy,
I was obsessive about it. The way...
My focus on health, it was unhealthy.
So that's the irony of it I was focused on
health but in actuality I was factually focused on
illness....on sickness. So the focus itself was really unhealthy.
But that was my approach to everything in life...I lived a life
of fear. Every choice I made, I made out of fear.
So even though I was eating healthy food I was
eating it to avoid illness. So, I mean in the same way that
everything I did, I did because I feared...
for example I fear failing.
So I feared the consequences. I was driven by a fear of consequences
s rather than by the drive to do
positive things or to accomplish things....and that was my life.
And very often I recognized myself in other
people. I see people doing exactly that.
You and I met in the coaching
community, so as coaches we know
that fear is a motivating force. So fear can motivate people to change.
So for you, you were motivated by fear and you were even...
ahead of many people and you were seeking out
talks and books and ...
In fact, I was very driven but I was driven by fear
and that's not heath because it eats away.
You know I mean, it's like being in a flight
of flight situation all the time,
rather than actually enjoy. Today, what I know is that what I learnt
is that everything I do, I do because I want to do it because it brings me
pleasure, it brings me joy.
Because I value and love myself, I no longer live my life out of fear.
And you know what interesting is, now after living through cancer, almost dying
of cancer,
getting a second chance of life. I value my life, I value
myself, I value my health so much
that I still gravitated towards healthy food,
but the energy behind
my choices is so
different. I would choose health because
I love my life and I value my life, not because I fear of illness
is because I want to live longer, is because
I want to be around for a long time to enjoy life
and to relish every minute. And you are more motivated by being inspired
about life, motivated by what you want
and not what you don't want. Exactly. That's exactly what it is, I am much
more motivated now by what I want.
I even remember that's many years ago and this was before I got cancer.
When I went to a "health talk"
by a naturopath in Hong Kong and I remembered that he did a slide show where
he showed
all kinds of degenerative things that happened in people's body and to the
animals and to the ocean and to the planet and so on.
And ...by the end of the slide show, I felt very very fearful because it looked to me
like everything cause cancer. Everything,
you know whether sunshine, whether it's plastic, whether
is eating chicken, our food has hormones, GMO mortify product and
so on...Which is all true.
But at the end of slide show,
I was really filled with fear and I think that was the turning point for me.
When I started to become really obsessive about my food.
But I remember that day when he, the naturopath actually said
to the audience," are you afraid?" and everybody said " Yes" and he said "well, you
should be."
because this is the of truth. And for me that was the turning point when I
started to become fearful
of everything to do with what was going into my body.
So that was like right before you got diagnosed.
It was before I become obsessive about my food.
It was after that I really starting to become obsessive about supplements,
about
going organic, about being vegan, so on and so forth.
I really mean obsessive. I become anti- social, my life become no fun.
When I say anti-social because I couldn't eat outside because I didn't know
what ingredients were in the food. I know exactly what you mean because I see
I see clients like
that a lot. When I give talks, sometimes I get asked
by people.
"so what should I eat? What should I do?" and I try to calm them, I try to
put things in context and I even would
try to lighten up. I mean...I presented the fact,
the facts are there. But we are
the one, who interpret the facts. Yea...I
am sure your naturopath was not meaning to
cause you to be so fearful that you would develop cancer.
No healer wants to do that.
But I give people a view that:
okay, now you have to live, and
you have to breathe Hong Kong air. You can't stop
breathing. And I am very honest, I don't eat pristine clean all the time.
I eat out. When I eat out, I get to eat
MSG and chemicals
but I don't get obsessed about it because
I know that the most powerful healing mechanism
is in our mind, and the limbic brain.
When we stress, we actually create more and
more...toxins. The stress of
"oh should I eat that chicken skin or that egg yolk...."is probably more damaging than eating it.
Exactly! And I believe that if you gotta
eat that piece of chocolate or even drink that glass of
champagne,
enjoy it! Enjoy that company you are with, enjoy it, have fun
because there is nothing more therapeutic
and healing than laughers and love, the company of people who you enjoy.
There really is nothing more therapeutic than that.Ya.Wow.
So now you gravitate towards super Foods, towards organic food, but it's from a very
different place.And you enjoy it more.
Yes, absolutely and I enjoy. I enjoy because I can feel effects
on my body.
Because I am not *** myself, I love myself,
I love my life, I love the things that are happening.
So when I do gravitate towards healthy food,
it's just to enhance my life.
I don't do it because I fear cancer.
Wow. Beautiful. You know what I see in my work is when people have self-love,
it's very easy for them to commit
to a health plan. So whether it's financial or time,
they don't try to "negotiate" with me.
I know. It's funny those same people
who negotiate and who don't want to invest
in themselves because maybe they say oh, it's too
expensive,
are the same people who would spend a fortune
on a branded pair of shoes or on a handbag. And is like
they don't value themselves enough to take care,
and they don't love themselves enough to take care of what
they put into their body.
But yet they will spend money on something external, because they are
looking for external validation.
So now you take a more inside out approach.
Much more inside out approach. And so do you think it's a done deal after your
NDE, you are completely
not afraid that you don't do this fear driven thing anymore?
I don't do fear anymore.
I am not saying that I can guarantee that I will never get cancer.
Who knows maybe
one day the way I exit the world will be through cancer. I have no idea
because we are needed to exit in a way.
We all do, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter if by cancer or another
way.
But I don't do fear anymore, I am done with that.