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>>> MEANWHILE, RON PAUL HAS BEEN
CAMPAIGNING LESS AGGRESSIVELY IN
SOUTH CAROLINA THAN HE HAS IN
THE OTHER EARLY VOTING STATES.
BUT IT'S PART OF A LARGER PLAN
TAKEN STRAIGHT FROM PRESIDENT
OBAMA'S 2008 CAMPAIGN PLAYBOOK.
AFTER POSTING STRONG FINISHES IN
IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE, THE GOOD
DOCTOR WHO YOU AREN'T SEEING
THERE, IS NOW FOCUSING ON
LOW-COST STATES HOLDING CAUCUSES
THAT CAN YIELD A LARGE NUMBER OF
DELEGATES.
I'M JOINLED BY DOUG WEAD, SENIOR
ADVISER FOR THE RON PAUL
CAMPAIGN.
NICE TO SEE YOU, DOUG.
THANKS FOR JOINING ME THERE IN
THE.
>> THANKS, ALEX.
THIS IS IT RON PAUL WEATHER.
>> I HOPE THAT WORKS FOR YOU!
I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE
PRIMARY TODAY.
YOU'RE NOT LIKELY TO WIN IT, I
THINK YOU KNOW THAT.
YOU'RE EFFECTIVELY SKIPPING
FLORIDA NEXT WEEK.
>> UNLESS IT SNOWS.
>> RIGHT.
HOW DO YOU ENVISION THIS PLAYING
OUT WITHOUT THE NATIONAL
ATTENTION THESE TWO CONTESTS
WOULD GENERATE FOR YOU?
>> BEAUTIFUL.
IT'S TURNING OUT BEAUTIFUL.
YOU REMEMBER THAT GREAT AGATHA
CHRISTIE AND BOOK "TEN LITTLE
INDIANS AND THEN THERE WERE
NONE"?
AND THEN THERE WERE FOUR.
AND NOW THAT NEWT GINGRICH IS
CHALLENGING ROMNEY IN SOUTH
CAROLINA, OUR FEELING IS,
WHOEVER WINS, IT DOESN'T MATTER,
JUST THE FACT THAT NEWT GINGRICH
COULD CHALLENGE MITT ROMNEY
SHOWS FOR US IT'S A WIDE-OPEN
RACE, IT ISN'T OVER, ANYTHING
CAN HAPPEN.
AND THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE
MONEY PUMPED INTO BOTH
CAMPAIGNS.
THAT'S VERY GOOD FOR US.
>> OKAY.
LET'S PLAY A LITTLE BIT FROM
THAT THURSDAY DEBATE.
HERE IS AN EXCHANGE WE'RE GOING
TO PLAY BETWEEN RON PAUL AND
MITT ROMNEY.
>> WE NEED TOHAVE SOMEONE
OUTSIDE WASHINGTON GO TO
WASHINGTON.
IF WE WANT PEOPLE WHO SPENT
THEIR LIFE AND MOST OF THEIR
CAREER IN WASHINGTON WE HAVE
THREE PEOPLE ON THE STAGE.
I TAKE THAT BACK.
WE HAVE A DOCTOR BACK HERE WHO
SPENT MOST OF HIS TIME IN THE
SURGERY SUITE.
NOT SURGERY.
THE BIRTHING SUITE.
BUT I JUST -- I THINK AMERICA
HAS TO MAKE A CHOICE AS TO
WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO SEND
PEOPLE WHO SPENT THEIR LIFE IN
WASHINGTON TO GO REPRESENT OUR
COUNTRY OR INSTEAD WHETHER WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE SOMEONE GO WHO'S
BEEN A LEADER IN THE PRIVATE
SECTOR AND KNOWS HOW THE REAL
ECONOMY WORKS AT THE GRASS ROOTS
LEVEL.
>> NOW, DOUG, A LOT OF PEOPLE
INTERPRETED THAT FROM ROMNEY AS
BEING EXTREMELY DEFER RESHL TO
RON PAUL.
DO YOU THINK HE COULD BE AIMING
FOR RON PAUL SUPPORTERS
EVENTUALLY?
>> I THINK ALL OF THE CANDIDATES
OUGHT TO.
THERE'S NO PATH TO THE WHITE
HOUSE WITHOUT RON PAUL.
IN THE GENERAL ELECTION THEY'RE
GOING TO NEED THE VAST NUMBERS
OF YOUNG PEOPLE, MOST OF THE
YOUNG PEOPLE I WORKED ALL ACROSS
IOWA NEW HAMPSHIRE AND HERE IN
SOUTH CAROLINA TELL ME FOUR
YEARS AGO THEY VOTED FOR BARACK
OBAMA IF THEY VOTED.
SOME OF THEM WERE TOO YOUNG TO
VOTE.
THEY'RE GOING TO NEED HIM IN THE
GENERAL.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE, IF NEWT
GINGRICH MAKES A RUN HERE AND HE
APPARENTLY HAS WHETHER HE WINS
OR NOT HE'S MADE THE RUN, THAT
THERE'S NO WAY THAT NEWT
GINGRICH COULD WIN THE
NOMINATION WITHOUT RON PAUL.
'S NOT EVEN ON THE BALANCE LOOT.
THERE BALLOTS THAT NEWT GINGRICH
AND SANTORUM AREN'T ON THE
BALLOT.
.
LAST POLL ANY OF THE MAJOR
NETWORKS, THE CNN POLL, SHOWS
ONLY TWO CANDIDATES BEATING
BARACK OBAMA, THAT'S RON PAUL
AND MITT ROMNEY.
YOU DON'T HEAR MUCH ATTENTION TO
THAT POLL, BUT IT'S A REALITY WE
DEAL WITH TV THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION.
RON PAUL HAS NOT ATTACKED ROMNEY
VERY MUCH.
THE OVERWHELMING MA JOORT OF HIS
ATTACKS HAS BEEN AT GINGRICH AND
SANTORUM.
WHY?
DO YOU THINK MOVER ATTENTION
WOULD BE FOCUSED ON THE
REPUBLICAN FRONT-RUNNER IN THE
OTHER CIRCUMSTANCE.
>> NO, NOT NECESSARILY SO.
WE SEE IT AS A WAR OF ATTRITION
AND WE KNOW THE NUMBERS ARE
STACKED AGAINST MITT ROMNEY.
THAT'S WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT
WITH THE DYNAMIC THAT'S
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
MITT ROMNEY IS THE ELITE
CANDIDATE, THE GOLDMAN SACHS
CANDIDATE, THE OBAMA OF THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY.
HE'S GOING TO BE ANOINTED LIE ED
MUSKY WAS, RUDOLPH GIULIANI.
IF HE DOESN'T MAKE IT THROUGH
THESE FIRST CONTESTS THAT THE
REPUBLICAN INSIDERS MOVED UP FOR
HIS BENEFIT AND ARRANGED FOR HIS
BENEFIT, THEN IT'S WIDE OPEN AND
HE KNOWS HE'S GOT TO DO IT
QUICKLY.
IF WE CAN HAVE SOME OF THE OTHER
CANDIDATES DROP OUT -- AND FIVE
OF THEM HAVE -- WE BECOME THE
ALTERNATIVE CANDIDATE AND THE
POLLS SHOW CLEARLY THAT MAYBE
30% OR SO OF THE VOTERS WANT
ROMNEY, THE OTHER 70% WANT
SOMEONE MORE CONSERVATIVE.
>> NO, BOTTOM LINE RIGHT NOW,
ARE YOU GUYS JUST RUNNING A
MARATHON AND YOU'RE EITHER JUST
STAYING IN IT TO POTENTIALLY BE
A KING MAKER AT THE END OF IT?
>> YES AND NO.
YES, WE'RE RUNNING A MARATHON
BUT, NO, WE'RE STILL GOING AFTER
THE NOMINATION BECAUSE FROM OUR
STANDPOINT A LOT OF THESE EARLY
CONTESTS MOVED UP EARLY.
WE KNEW WE WOULDN'T DO THAT
WELL.
WE LIKE THE WAY THE NUMBERS ARE
MOVING.
JUST A MONTH AGO, WE WERE 6% IN
SOUTH CAROLINA.
NOW WE ARE THE ONLY EVANGELICAL
CHRISTIAN IN THE RACE AND WE
HAVE MORE DONATIONS FROM THE
MILITARY THAN ALL THE OTHER
CANDIDATES COMBINED AND WE'RE
THE ONLY VETERAN IN THE RACE.
WE LIKE THE WAY THE NUMBERS ARE