Govt - Public has no right to know about secret laws to spy on us

welcome to the david packing show high-definition bday to tons of email from people saying wow you can see my chest hair because we're in a h_d_ i really can't do that much about an edge ideas have chest hair were in h_d_ it's visible i'd just i i don't know lewis this is t if this if that's the biggest problem we have a guess for doing okay yeah you could always waxing you know also you know people saying my hair is is out of control that is what it is and and you can see it in its full glory will lose has been talking about for years you can now see in high definition let's not waste anymore time on my hair the government says that the public has no right to know what the secret laws are that the fed's are using to serve ale americans uh... a lot of talk lately about these fires a court's right lewis which are kind of like a shadow supreme court they make rulings about land surveillance can and cannot be done typically that can be done and the a_c_l_u_ and similar groups have gotten together and they started to ask for documents not about specific things that we have that that have been i've found out through the surveillance but just what is the law and the government is basically saying no you don't have the the right to know that the justice department came back with a filing and said the public has no right to know the secret court is ruling on and how it codifies secret laws the argument is basically that because these rulings have always been secret then it's perfectly reasonable that their secret and that they continue to be secret in other words secret laws can be secret because they are and have been secret now that logic leaves a lot to be desired so some of the uh... letters that that the a_c_l_u_ in groups have gotten in response also add well revealing what the laws are would be dangerous understand lou is that reviewing specific details about the laws could be dangerous like here's specific things we found out through the laws how can just reviewing what the law is and how it's interpreted created national security issue i'm just not buying it that's the question i wish i could answer it uh... i don't know it kind of bizarre but against all part of just keeping people com maybe uh... and you know they can be outraged if they don't know but what if what they do would sentiments you one you know uh... in apoplectic rage maybe that's the motivation there's a further issue also which is now that people can essentially be arrested and held indefinitely without ever being charged of a crime some people would say colloquial e for no reason but i can say without being charged formally charged with a crime do we even really need the secret laws because we already know that there doesn't even really need to be a legal basis to hold you can just be held indefinitely maybe knowing the secret laws is kind of a distraction and it wouldn't even make much of a difference maybe it's gotten that down lewis for a lot of people it it would and uh... we know that basically the government does whatever one's with whoever it wants uh... unless you are some type of well-known person celebrity or just in the media you really don't stand a chance if if the government wants to take away our rights