Common Ground Episode 211 - First air date December 23, 2010

>>> HI, AND WELCOME TO COMMON GROUND. I'M YOUR HOST. COMMON GROUND CAPTURES THE CREATIVE PROCESS OF VARIOUS ARTISTS LIVING IN OUR REGION. WE'RE DELVING INTO THE VEILED HISTORY OF OUR AREA, PLUS WE TAKE YOU INSIDE THE CULTURAL EVENTS THAT PUT THE NORTH IN NORTH COUNTRY. ON THIS WEEK'S EPISODE OF COMMON GROUND DR. JIM GHOSTLEY REMINISCES ABOUT HIS MOTHER, A PIONEERING FEMALE DOCTOR AT THE LAKE JULIA SANITORIUM. PLUS, THE DYED-IN-THE-WOOL SPINNERS OF AITKIN SHOW US THE CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY CAPTION ASSOCIATES, LLC >> BASICALLY THERE WERE FOUR OF US THAT STARTED THE GROUP. WE ALL PRETTY MUCH FOUND SPINNING IN DIFFERENT WAYS, AND WE ARE SELF-TAUGHT. I SHOWED UP, I'M AUDREY METAY, AND THIS IS HELEN ANDERSON, AND MIDGE JOHNSON, AND DIANE. WE WERE THE ORIGINAL GROUP FOR THE DYED IN THE WOOL SPINNERS. OUR MEETINGS, WE'D GET TOGETHER AND KIND OF COMPARE OUR SPINNING PROJECTS, AND CHAT ABOUT THIS OR THAT OR HOW OUR ANIMALS ARE DOING OR BASICALLY THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS, WE WERE VERY INTERESTED IN STARTING FROM OUR ANIMALS, AND WE ENJOYED SEEING IT FROM THE LAMBS TO THE FINISHED PRODUCT. >> I'M USING A GREAT WHEEL TO SPIN SOME WOOL. THIS PARTICULAR WHEEL IS PROBABLY ABOUT 150, 160 YEARS OLD. IT IS WHAT THEY CALL A SPINDLE WHEEL BECAUSE IT HAS A SPINDLE INSTEAD OF A BOBBIN. IT'S SIMPLY TO PUT TWIST INTO A FIBER AND THAT'S WHAT ANY SPINNING WHEEL DOES. IT'S ALSO CALLED A ROCKING WHEEL OR GREAT WHEEL AND THE REASON WHY IT'S CALLED A ROCKING WHEEL, YOU HAVE TO ROCK BACK AND FORTH. AS YOU SPIN. AND IF YOU WERE TO SPIN ALL DAY AND KEEP MOVING, YOU COULD ROCK UP TO MAYBE 16 MILES A DAY. YOU CAN SPIN WOOL WHICH IS SHEARED OFF OF SHEEP, EVERY YEAR A SHEEP HAS TO HAVE A HAIRCUT, IT DOESN'T SHED LIKE A DOG OR CAT. YOU COULD USE SILK, YOU COULD USE COTTON, DOG HAIR, GOAT HAIR WHICH IS CALLED MOHAIR OR HAIR OFF A SPECIAL RABBIT CALLED ANGORA WHICH IS REALLY SOFT. FLAX WHICH YOU GROW, THAT CAN BE USED FOR SPINNING AND THREAD. YOU CAN USE ANY FIBER YOU CAN GET TO STICK TOGETHER AND PUT A TWIST INTO IT AND MAKE IT STAY TOGETHER. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SPINNING FOR A LONG TIME, SOME OF THE FIRST PICTURES OF USING A WHEEL WERE FOUND IN THE TOMBS OF EGYPT. THE TYPE OF WHEEL AUDREY IS USING IS CALLED A CASTLE WHEEL OR UPRIGHT WHEEL. THAT'S BECAUSE IT HAS ALL THE WORKING THINGS ON TOP. MOST PEOPLE ARE USED TO SEEING THEY HAVE THE SMALL WHEEL HERE AND THEN THE BOBBIN ARE OFF TO THE SIDE, THOSE ARE CALLED TRADITIONAL WHEEL. THERE ARE VARIATIONS OF THAT AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALL THE WHEELS IS SOMEBODY HAD A DIFFERENT IDEA HOW TO DO THE SAME THING. THERE ARE DIFFERENT TOOLS TO GET THE WOOL READY FOR THIS. AS I SAID, THIS IS HOW THE WOOL LOOKS LIKE WHEN I GET IT RIGHT OFF THE SHEEP, TAKE IT AND FLUFF IT UP, NOT ONLY DOES IT FLUFF IT UP, MAKES IT EASY TO WORK WITH BUT THEN I CAN TAKE OUT THE LITTLE BITS OF HAY, DIRT AND SAND WILL FALL OUT WHILE I'M WORKING WITH IT. THESE ARE CARDS AND YOU PUT IT ON HERE. WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS FLUFFS IT UP SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE WHAT IS CALLED A WOOLEN YARN, IT'S A FLUFFY YARN THAT DOESN'T WEAR AS WELL, IT'S REALLY WARM. IF I WANTED TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY STRONG LIKE FOR SOCKS, THEN I MIGHT USE SOMETHING CALLED A COMB, THESE ARE COMBS, AGAIN, I'M GOING TO TAKE THE WOOL OFF THE SHEEP AND YOU LOAD THAT IN THERE, AND WHAT THAT DOES IS NOW THEY WILL ALL BE READY IN THE SAME WAY. THEY AREN'T QUITE AS WARM BUT THEY WILL WEAR BETTER AND IT MAKES A TIGHTER WEAVE. I WILL PULL IT OFF AND IT WILL LEAVE ALL THE JUNK IN THE SHORT PIECES, THE DIRT WILL STAY IN THE COMB AND I CAN SPIN THAT. EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT REASON TO DO IT. I ORIGINALLY WENT TO A SPINNING MEETING BECAUSE IT WANTED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WOOL TO RAISE BETTER SHEEP. THEN I FOUND A WHEEL AND AWAY YOU GO. IT'S VERY RELAXING. YOU CANNOT BE UP TIGHT AND STAND. SOME PEOPLE STOOD BECAUSE THEY LOVED TO USE DIFFERENT KIND OF YARN, YOU CREATE A YARN AND YOU GET TO CONTROL THE WHOLE PROCESS WHEN YOU ARE FINISHED, WHAT IT IS MADE OUT OF, HOW THICK IT IS, WHAT COLORS IT IS, YOU GET TO CONTROL EVERYTHING, SO IT IS A LOT OF FUN. >> IT RELAXING. WHEN I WAS GOING TO WORK, I MEAN I WAS JUST -- I WAS INTO GRAPHIC ARTS AND A LOT OF DEADLINES AND THE STRESS, YOU KNOW, IT JUST GOT TO ME AND I WOULD COME HOME AND START SPINNING AND I JUST FELT BETTER. AND THE EXCITEMENT OF STARTING A PROJECT AND ACTUALLY FINISHING IT, YOU KNOW, TO KNOW THAT IT STARTED WITH MY SHEEP AND IT ENDED WITH SOMETHING THAT I COULD USE AND IT IS A GOOD >>> HI, I'M JIM GHOSTLEY AND I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE LAKE JULIA SANITORIUM NEAR LAKE BEMIDJI. THE SANITORIUM WAS USED FOR MANY YEARS TO TREAT TB PATIENTS. THE MAIN REASON I'M HERE IS BECAUSE MY CONNECTION TO THE SANITORIUM WAS THE FACT MY MOTHER WAS THE DIRECTOR OF THE SANITORIUM, SHE WAS SUPERINTENDENT FOR 30 YEARS FROM 1929 UNTIL 1953, AND WAS IN CHARGE OF NOT ONLY TREATMENT OF THE PATIENTS, THEIR CARE OF ALL THE PROPERTIES, THE DAIRY, THE FARMING CONNECTED WITH THAT AND ALSO THE DAILY DIET FOR THE PATIENTS IN CHARGE OF THE NURSING STAFF AND ALL EMPLOYEES, IT'S A BIG JOB. MY MOTHER'S NAME WAS DR. MARY GHOSTLEY AND SHE CAME HERE FROM INTERNATIONAL FALLS TO OPERATE THE SANITORIUM BECAUSE THERE WERE NO PHYSICIANS AT THAT TIME THAT WOULD TAKE THAT JOB, IT PAID $100 A MONTH AND WASN'T CONSIDERED ADEQUATE FOR MOST PHYSICIAN'S MONTHLY INCOME, SHE TOOK IT BECAUSE SHE FELT THE JOB HAD TO BE DONE. HER MEDICAL TRAINING WAS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA AND SHE GRADUATED IN 1909. AND SHE WAS AN EARLY PHYSICIAN IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA FOR A FEMALE BUT NOT THE FIRST FEMALE BY ANY MEANS. THE MALES IN THE PROFESSION DID NOT LIKE FEMALES BEING IN THE PROFESSION WITH THEM, SO SHE HAD SOME DIFFICULTIES, BUT IN INTERNATIONAL FALLS WHERE SHE HAD MOVED TO LAKE JULIA FROM, SHE HAD A SCHOOLMATE THAT WAS MARRIED TO A PHYSICIAN, BOTH OF THEM BEING PHYSICIANS, AND SHE WOULD MEET WITH DR. ELIZABETH MONAHAN AND THE TWO OF THEM WOULD HELP EACH OTHER, THERE WERE NO SUPPORT GROUPS IN THOSE DAYS. SUB ERTUBE ERTB WAS A HARD THIN, THERE WAS A TEST, MANTLE TEST TO DETERMINE IF THEY HAD IT IN THEIR SYSTEMS AND IT WAS GIVEN WITH A LITTLE INJECTION UNDER THE FIRST SECTION OF SKIN UNDER THE ARM AND PEOPLE WOULD GET A RED RING UND AROUND THAT INJECTION IN THREE DAYS AND THE DOCTOR THAT GAVE THE SHOT WOULD COME BACK AND READ ANYTIME THREE DAYS. SO THE MAIN FORCE OF THAT WAS APPLIED TO THE SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTY AND MY MOTHER USED TO TRAVEL AROUND TO THE COUNTY SCHOOLS, ALL THE LITTLE COUNTRY SCHOOLS AND THERE WERE MANY OF THEM THAT HAVE BEEN CONSOLIDATED TODAY SO PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THE SMALL COUNTRY SCHOOLS THAT WERE HERE IN THOSE DAYS. BUT SHE WENT TO ALL THE SCHOOLS AND GAVE THE LITTLE KIDS TESTS AND THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE TODAY THAT REMEMBER VERY WELL WHEN SHE CAME INTO THEIR CLASSROOMS AND GAVE MANT TESTS BUT THAT IS HOW IT WAS DISCOVERED. AND THE MAIN THING ABOUT TUBERCULOSIS WAS IT AFFECTED THE LUNG, BUT IT DID ALSO AFFECT OTHER ORGANS IN THE BODY AND IT COULD ALSO MORE OR LESS DRY UP AND ENCAPSULATE AND FORM A SHELL LIKE A CLAMO CLAM CLAM OR OYSTET COULD STAY INSIDE THAT CAPSULE FOR A LIFETIME OR REACTIVATE LATER IN LIFE AND AFFECT A PERSON. THE SANITORIUM WAS CONSTRUCTED PRIMARILY FOR THE PURPOSE OF TREATING TUBERCULOSIS PATIENTS AND IT WAS -- I THINK CONSTRUCTION WAS BEGUN AROUND 1915 AND THEY HAD HUGE WINDOWS THAT LET IN LOTS OF SUNLIGHT FOR THE PURPOSE OF TREATING PATIENTS, THEY FIGURED FRESH AIR AND SUNLIGHT WAS THE BEST TREATMENT AT THAT TIME, AND THEY HAD SCATTERED SANITORIUMS AROUND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA, AND LAKE YOU'LL YEAH WJULIA WAS ONE THAT2 PATIENTS AT CAPACITY, THERE WAS A STAFF OF NURSES, THERE WAS A LITTLE X-RAY ROOM AND ONE OF THE NURSES WAS TRAINED AS A X-RAY TECHNICIAN AND SHE WAS THERE, FLORA BACH WAS THERE FOR MANY MANY YEARS, I'M SURE SHE WAS THERE OVER 30 YEARS AND MADE HER LIFE TIME CAREER AS NURSE AND X-RAY TECHNICIAN AT THE SANITORIUM. BUT THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE AN ANTIBIOTIC WAS DEVELOPED THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE TUBERCULOSIS AND THEY ALSO DEVELOPED MEDICATION WHEN GIVEN TO THE TUBERCULOSIS PATIENT, IT WOULD CAUSE THE TUBERCOLSA TO HAVE A THE HUGE APPETITE AND THEY WOULD GIVE THE ANTIBIOTIC WHEN THEY WERE HUNGRY AND MANAGED TO ERADICATE TUBERCULOSIS FOR MANY YEARS. BUT WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF PEOPLE FROM THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES WHERE SANITATION IS NOT WELL PRACTICED, IT'S DEVELOPED NEW BACILLA THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT INTO THE COUNTRY TO TUBERCULOSIS IS BACK AGAIN. THE DISEASE WAS SO PREVALENT, IT WAS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, AND PEOPLE WERE CARELESS, THEY DIDN'T KNOW SANITATION PRACTICES WELL AND THERE USED TO BE SIGNS ON WALLS THAT SAID DO NOT SPIT ON THE SIDEWALK. NO SPITTING ALLOWED. AND PEOPLE WOULD SPREAD THE DISEASE UNKNOWINGLY AND BEFORE THEY KNEW THEY HAD IT, YOU KNOW. SO THEY WERE VERY CAREFUL EDUCATING THE COUNTRY IN DIFFERENT WAYS TO WITH HOLE THE TRANS -- HOLD THE TRANSPORTATION OF THE BACTERIA. THE SAN SAN SAN SANITORIUM WAS A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO STAY BUT IT ALLOWED PEOPLE TO BE IDOL. EXTREME INACTIVITY MADE THE PATIENT MUCH WORSE, IT WOULD ACTIVATE THE TUBUCULA BACILLA, THEY WANTED TO KEEP THEM ISOLATED FROM THE PUBLIC AND QUIET. THIS MAIN LEVEL OF THE SANITORIUM, AS I RECALL IT WAS MALE PATIENTS. AND THE UPPER LEVEL WAS THE FEMALE PATIENTS. AND THERE WERE BATHROOMS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THIS SIDE FACED THE LAKE, IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL VIEW AND VERY NICE LOCATION FOR THE PATIENTS TO BE, AND THEY COULD ENJOY THE OUTSIDE VIEW OF BIRDS AND ANIMALS SOMETIMES AND ACTIVITY ON THE LAKE. WELL, NOW, THIS IS A MODEL OF THE SANITORIUM BUILDING THAT WAS MADE AT BEMIDJI STATE UNIVERSITY. AND IT'S A VERY GOOD MODEL, IT SHOWS A ROAD GOING AROUND THE SANITORIUM WHICH WAS THERE FOR THE EARLY DAYS, BUT IT DISAPPEARED IN THE EARLY 30s, FOR INSTANCE WHERE I AM STANDING, THERE WAS AN OLD FARM, BARN AND WHAT NOT DOWN ON THE LAKE SHORE AND IT BURNED DOWN, SO, THE ROAD THAT WENT A ROUNDED NO MORE NEED TO BE THERE AND IT BECAME LAWN. AND YOU COULD STILL DRIVE ON THE LAWN AND UP TO THE FRONT STEPS WHEN ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY BUT IT WASN'T ENCOURAGED BECAUSE IT WAS RATHER LONG. THERE WAS A SIDEWALK THAT WENT AROUND AND THIS IS THE FRONT SIDE THAT FACED THE LAKE AND IT WAS A VERY HANDSOME BUILDING, ALL MASONRY. IT STILL STANDS, THE BUILDING HAS THE STUCCO ON THE OUTSIDE. IT IS DETERIORATING TODAY, BUT THEY ARE SAYING WITH THE PLASTER INSIDE, THE WHOLE THING IS CONCRETE BLOCK AND BRICK STRUCTURALLY, VERY HEAVY BUILDING, IT HAD CURVED TILE LIKE YOU SEE IN MEXICO FOR THE BUILDING, CLAY TILE ROOF AND THAT WAS STRIPPED OFF OF IT, BUT EVERYTHING OUT THERE WAS MASONRY, AND IT STILL STANDS, DRAMATIC STRUCTURE FOR THE POWERFUL BUILDING THAT THEY MADE IN THOSE DAYS AND I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA HOW DEEP THE FOOTINGS ARE. THEY PROBABLY GO WAY DOWN IN THE GROUND TO HOLD THAT STRUCTURE, BUT THIS IS THE FRONT OF IT, AND THIS BACK SIDED THE KITCHEN, AND THE DELIVERY FROM THE DAIRY WAS MADE TO THE KITCHEN DOOR ON THE BACK SIDE, AND THERE WAS A LARGE WALK-IN REFRIGERATOR WHERE THEY HAD THE MEAT AND ALL THE SUPPLIES THAT HAD TO BE COOLED AS EARLY TYPE REFRIGERATION, BUT YOU COULD WALK RIGHT IN, HAD GREAT BIG THICK PROBABLY 10 INCH THICK DOOR, JUST GOING IN AND OUT OF THE REFRIGERATOR, SO PEOPLE IN THE KITCHEN COULD WALK IN AND OUT AND GET THINGS. BUT IT WAS A GOOD OLD BUILDING, UPSTAIRS ON THIS BACK SIDE THERE WAS A X-RAY ROOM, THE BACK PORCH UPSTAIRS WAS FEMALE PATIENTS TOTALLY AND THIS WAS ALL FEMALE PATIENTS UPSTAIRS HERE, THE MEN WERE DOWN BELOW AND THEY WERE ALL IN THIS FRONT SIDE. THE BASEMENT ROOMS WERE USED FOR EMPLOYEE BEDROOMS, FOR THE MALE EMPLOYEES. THEY WERE USED ALSO. AND THERE WAS AN ENGINE ROOM DOWN UNDERNEATH FOR BOILERS AND A LAUNDRY, THERE WAS A BIG LAUNDRY DOWNSTAIRS AND YOU HAD ALL THE SHEETS AND WORK FOR THE HOSPITALS. IT WAS WELL THOUGHT OUT BUILDING AND THERE WAS MANY OF THEM. ALL THE BUILDINGS WERE DUPLICATES TO ONE ANOTHER AROUND THE STATE. IT WAS INTERESTING WHAT THE PATIENTS WERE LIKE WHEN THEY WERE ASKED TO FIND OUT IF THEY HAD TUBERCULOSIS AND FOUND OUT THEY DID AND SENT TO THE SANITORIUM. THERE WASN'T MUCH HOPE LEFT THAT HAD THE CAVED IN FEELING WHEN YOU HAD TO BE SENT TO A PLATES LIKE THE SANITORIUM, ISOLATED FROM YOUR FRIEND AND COMMUNITY. I HAD A FRIEND THAT WAS A PATIENT OUT THERE FROM THE TIME HE WAS PROBABLY A SOPHOMORE IN HIGH SCHOOL, AND HE WAS A PATIENT, AS I RECALL, FOR RIGHT AROUND THE 10-YEAR PERIOD, AND HE MANAGED TO GET BETTER AND HE WAS KURD. HE HAD ONLY ONE LUNG BUT HE WAS CURED AND HE GOT HIMSELF A COLLEGE DEGREE, HE WORKED SUCCESSFULLY IN INTERNATIONAL FALLS AT THE PAPER MILL AS A CHEMIST UP THERE, AND DID WELL. HE PASSED AWAY JUST A YEAR OR SO AGO AND HE WAS IN HIS 80s AND HE HAD A GOOD LIFE AND I THINK HE WAS ALWAYS PROUD THAT HE SURVIVED THAT DISEASE. THERE WAS A LOT OF TIMES THAT MY MOTHER WOULD BE VERY BUSY TRYING TO TEACH PATIENTS SOMETHING THEY COULD DO WITH THEIR SPARE TIME. AND TODAY THERE IS DEFINITELY A -- PART OF MEDICINE IS OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY, AND I'M SURE MOST PEOPLE KNOW AN OCCUPATIONAL THERAPIST AND THEY ARE LOADED WITH IDEAS, MY MOTHER JUST HAD TO COME UP AND INCORPORATE THINGS SHE UNDERSTOOD AND KNEW AND SHE TAUGHT SOME OF THE PATIENTS HOW TO KNIT, HOW TO DO AT THAT AT . THIS IS AN INTERESTING LOOK AT THE PROPERTY, MY SISTER AND I DID GROW UP OUT THERE, WE THOUGHT LIFE WAS PRETTY GOOD. WE WERE FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THE SAN TOSANITORIUM, OUR PLAYING WT HEARD AT THE HOSPITAL. THIS WAS TAKEN IN 1934 BECAUSE THE OLD GARAGE BUILDING WAS UP THERE UNTIL THAT TIME AND IT WAS REMOVED FOR A NEW BUILDING THAT HOUSED A NUMBER OF VEHICLES AND OFFICE SPACE AND A RECEPTION ROOM FOR VISITORS UP ABOVE. THE OLD SIDEWALKS, I THINK, ARE STILL OUT THERE. THIS IS THE PHYSICIAN'S RESIDENTS, NICE LOG CABIN. IT WAS HEATED FROM STEAM HEAT FROM THE BOILER ROOMS IN THE SANITORIUM BASEMENT. THIS FORMAL GARDEN, MY MOTHER WOULD COME FROM THE SANITORIUM AND SHE WOULD ALWAYS GET CAUGHT ALONG THE SIDEWALK PICKING WEEDS TO MAKE THE FLOWERS GROW BETTER, SHE COULDN'T PASS WEEDS WITHOUT REMOVING THEM. THE GREENHOUSE, SHE USED THAT, SHE DEVELOPED A NUMBER OF LITTLE PLANTS SHE WOULD GROW AND TAKE SLIPS OFF OF THEM, START AGAIN, MAKE DIFFERENT PLANTS AGAIN. WELL, MY MOTHER WAS VERY BUSY ALL THE TIME AT THE SANITORIUM. WHEN I GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL I WENT INTO THE NAVY AND THE NAVY, OF COURSE, TESTED EVERYBODY AND I WAS PLACED IN THE NAVY HOSPITAL CORPES AND WE TOOK CARE OF THE MILITARY PERSONALLY, ALL PHASES OF ARMY, MARINES, AIR FORCE, WHATEVER THAT WERE WOUNDED IN WORLD WAR II AND I WAS TRAINED THEN AS A HOSPITAL FOREMAN AND WHEN THE KOREAN WAR BROKE OUT IT WENT TO KOREA AND I WAS OVER THERE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND COMING HOME FROM THERE I WAS PLACED ON A CONVERTED SHIP THAT WAS MADE INTO A HOSPITAL SHIP TO BRING BACK SOLDIERS WHO WERE INJURED, AND I MANAGED TO GET AN AROUND THE WORLD CRUISE WITH UNCLE SAM WHICH WAS VERY GOOD, AND WHEN I CAME HOME I STARTED COLLEGE AND WOUND UP TEACHING SCHOOL FOR A WHILE WITH A DEGREE IN BIOLOGY AND ART AND ALSO WAS A SWIMMING COACH BUT I DIDN'T CARE FOR TEACHING, BUT I PACKED EVERYTHING UP AND TOOK MY FAMILY AND WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA DENTAL SCHOOL AND GRADUATED AS A DOCTOR OF DENTAL SURGERY IN 1963, CAME UP TO BEMIDJI TO PRACTICE. THEN WHEN WE WERE SMALL I REMEMBER BEING IN THE HAUSMAN I TIMES WHEN THE NIGHTTIME ENGINEER, THEY WERE 24 HOUR A DAY ON DUTY ENGINEER FOR THE BOILER, AND THAT PRODUCED ELECTRICITY FOR THE SA SANITORI, EVERYTHING WAS POWERED OUT OF THE SANITORIUM BASEMENT ENGINE ROOM. WHEN I WAS SMALL I CAN REMEMBER MANY TIMES THE ENGINEER ON NIGHT DUTY WOULD COME OVER AND POUND ON THE WALL, ONE OF THE NIGHT NURSES SAID THEY NEEDED HER RIGHT AWAY, THAT HAPPENED FREQUENTLY, SHE WOULD GO OVER AND TAKE CARE OF WHATEVER IT WAS AND WE DIDN'T ALWAYS KNOW, ASK QUESTIONS, BUT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THINGS EITHER WHEN WE DID HEAR. MY SISTER AND I WERE BOTH PRETTY QUIET ABOUT WHAT WE HAPPENED TO OVERHEAR AND SHE DIDN'T EVER HAVE MUCH FREE TIME WHEN SHE WAS DONE WITH HER DAY'S WORK AT THE SANITORIUM, SHE WOULD COME OVER TO THE HOUSE AND SEE BOTH OF US, MY SISTER AND I FOR A WHILE AND THEN SHE WOULD GO TO THE OFFICE AND READ X RAYS INTO THE NIGHT AND MAKE REPORTS TO PHYSICIANS ALL AROUND THE STATE THAT SENT IN X RAYS, GREAT BIG CHEST X RAYS OF THEIR PATIENTS AND WANTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT THE X RAYS SHOWED AND SHE WOULD DIAGNOSE FROM THE X RAY AND WRITE A FULL REPORT AND THIS WAS BEFORE RADIOLOGISTS WERE BEING PRODUCED BY THE SCHOOL AND ONE OF THE EARLY RADIOLOGISTS THAT I MET ONE TIME TOLD ME THAT HER REPORTS WERE USED AS A FORMAT FOR THE REPORTS THAT THEY WERE TAUGHT TO MAKE IN SCHOOL. SO, HE KNEW MY NAME WHEN HE MET ME, HE KNEW MY NAME JUST FROM THOSE REPORTS HE USED AS A STUDENT. SO, SHE WAS PRETTY BUSY ALL THE TIME. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US, WE HOPE YOU ENJOYED THE SHOW AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEE YOU NEXT WEEK RIGHT HERE ON "COMMON GROUND." IF YOU HAVE A SEGMENT IDEA FOR COMMON GROUND, PLEASE EMAIL LEGACY@LPTV.ORG, OR CALL CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY CAPTION ASSOCIATES, LLC