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>> WHO IS THAT MAN?
I WONDER WHO IT IS.
I KNOW SHAN TELL JONES IS
HERE.
SHE'S BEEN IN INDIA FOR A
HOLIDAY.
>> IT WAS NICE.
>> I HASN'T BEEN ON HOLIDAY.
I'LL SHOW AWE VIDEO IN A
COUPLE SECONDS.
THERE IS SOME LANGUAGE, I
DON'T THINK PEOPLE CAN HEAR IT
AND THEY HAVE HEARD THE WORDS
BEFORE.
WE'LL CUT IT OUT BEFORE THE
REALLY BAD LANGUAGE HAPPENS AT
THE END.
HAD IS A GAY PRIDE FESTIVAL
IN --.
>> SEATTLE, ACTUALLY, AND IT'S
REALLY UNFORTUNATE FOR THE
ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
I MEAN YOU HAVE SEEN
DEMONSTRATIONS BEFORE AND
EVERY DEMONSTRATION EVERYTHING
THAT REALLY MATTERS THERE'S A
COUNTER DEMONSTRATION AND IT'S
THE RIGHT AND FREEDOM OF
PEOPLE TO PROTEST AND COUNTER
PROTEST BUT WHAT WE HAVE HERE
IS A DISGUSTING, DISGUSTING
REALITY --.
>> CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION
AND PEOPLE I KNOW WILL SAY
MICHAEL HAS SOLD OUT.
WHAT IS THE POINT OF
CHRISTIANS GOING A LONG TO
PRIDE DEMONSTRATIONS, MARCHES,
WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM,
AND ANNOUNCING THEY DISAGREE.
DO THEY THINK PEOPLE SAY OH MY
GOD YOU'RE RIGHT.
I'M NOT GAY ANYMORE.
>> I KIND OF TAKE THAT SAME
TOKEN.
I DON'T THINK THE METHOD,
REPENTS OR ELSE, LIKE I MEAN I
DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE TOLD ME
THAT ABOUT ANYTHING I WAS
DOING THAT I WOULD TAKE THEM
SERIOUSLY.
>> WHAT IS THE ACTUAL POINT?
>> I THINK FOR THEM MAYBE IT'S
TO KIND OF YOU KNOW EDIFY WHAT
THEY BELIEVE IN.
TO STAND UP FOR WHAT THEY
BELIEVE IN, REGARDLESS OF IF
IT WILL CONVERT ANYONE.
MAYBE TO MAKE THEIR OWN POINT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A BEST WAY
TO GO ABOUT IT.
I THINK IT PROVOKES AND ANGERS.
>> THEY HAVE A RIGHT.
>> YES AND THE SAME WAY THAT
THE PRIDE PARADE HAS THE RIGHT
TO BE THERE.
WE UNFORTUNATELY CAN'T CONTROL
IT.
I MEAN EVERYBODY REYEAR I SEE
THE TOPLESS WOMEN THERE AND I
THINK TO MYSELF, WELL I WANT
TO BE PRO CHOICE BECAUSE I SEE
THE TOPLESS WOMEN.
WELL IT'S NOT THE GREATEST WAY
TO GO.
>> WE'RE GOING TO SEE A VIDEO.
I WARN PEOPLE AND I SAID THIS
TO YOU BEFORE WE WENT TO AIR,
IF DAVID BECKHAM OR BRAD PITT
TAKE OFF THEIR SHIRT, OKAY, I
CAN UNDERSTAND THAT BUT WHY IS
IT ALWAYS THE PEOPLE WHO LOOK
LIKE -- ANYWAY, I HAVE THE
VIDEO NOW.
NOW IT GETS QUITE NASTY.
I WILL SAY AGAIN, I THINK IT'S
POINTLESS STANDING THERE
SAYING REPENT.
THE IDIOT WHO REALLY CAUSES
THE TROUBLE IS NOT GAY
APPARENTLY.
>> WELL, NO --.
>> HE'S WAY TOO FAT AND UGLY
TO BE GAY.
>> I'M NOT GOING THERE.
WHAT IT IS, HE'S A MARRIED MAN
WHO HAS HAD 29 ARRESTS SINCE
1994.
I DON'T THINK HE HAS ANYTHING
TO DO WITH THE GAY PRIDE
MOVEMENT AT ALL.
>> YOU THINK HE HAS A BAD RAP.
YOU HAVE BEEN IN INDIA TOO
LONG.
LOOK, THE PEOPLE THERE, SOME
OF THE PEOPLE IN THE GAY
COMMUNITY ARE SAYING GO AWAY,
THEY TRY TO PUSH HIM AWAY.
OTHERS ARE JOINING IN THE
ATTACK.
>> THEY COME OUT.
THEY CONDEMN THE BEHAVIOR BUT
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY I DON'T
THINK HE HAS ANYTHING TO DO
WITH THE COMMUNITY.
HE'S BEEN ARRESTED AND THE
POLICE SAY THANK GOD FOR THE
VIDEO TO SHOW THIS IS NOT OKAY,
TO HAVE PROOF.
>> THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM
TORONTO IN FACT THE POLICE
THREATENED TO ARREST THE
PEOPLE THERE --.
>> AND JUSTIFY THE VIOLENT
ABUSE.
I THINK IN THIS CASE HE HAS
NOTHING DO WITH BEING GAY.
HE'S A MAN WHO OBVIOUSLY IS
VIOLENT.
>> WHY WAS HE THERE?
IT'S THE SAME ISSUE I HAVE
WITH PRO LIFE RALLIES.
THEY START SWEARING AND --.
>> I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT.
NEVER SEEN THAT.
EVER SEEN THAT.
NEVER.
>> WHEN I HEAR STORIES THEY
SAY WE'RE NOT PRO LIFE.
>> ARE YOU BEING PAID BY THE
OTHER SIDE TO BE HERE TODAY.
>> NOT AT ALL.
I'M SAYING THIS IS THE
REALITY.
STUPID ANGRY PEOPLE WITH NO
SENSE OF WHAT THE CAUSE
ACTUALLY IS.
IT'S REALLY BIZARRE AND COMING
OUT REALLY MISLEADING SO YOU
KNOW BASIC BIOLOGY, EACH ONE
OF US HAS AN EGG AND THE EGG
HAS TWO TYPES OF GENES, A
MICR -- MITOCHONDRAL GENE
AND --.
>> YOU MEAN WOMEN.
>> YES THE TWO SETS HAVE
DIFFERENT TRAITS, THE NUCLEAR
GENES HAVE MORE PHYSICAL
TRAITS, WHAT ME AND YOU LOOK
LIKE.
THAT SORT OF THING.
MITROCHONDRIAL GENES ARE JUST
AS IMPORTANT AND THEY CONVERT
CARBS INTO ENERGY.
>> YOU NEED TO GET TO THE
POINT.
>> THERE'S A BIG PROBLEM.
SOME PONT DON'T HAVE STRONG
ONES AND RESEARCHERS SAID WE
CAN CHANGE THAT AND MAKE
HEALTHY BABIES BY JUST, ALL
WE'RE GOING TO DO IS TAKE A
DONOR'S MITROCHRONDAL AND PUT
IT IN A HEALTHY WOMAN'S EGG
AND WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE'S
DNA.
THE MOTHER ARCHES DONOR, AND
THEY'RE IN ONE EGG THAT GETS
FERTILIZE LYLESED THE SAME WAY,
IVF BY A MAN, AND NOW WE HAVE
THREE SETS.
WE HAVE HAD 30.
TWO OF THOSE CHILDREN ARE ONE
YEARS OLD AND THEY HAVE HAD
DNA TESTS AND THEY HAVE THE
IDENTITY OF THREE PEOPLE.
>> I ASSUME THE MOTHER IS
REQUESTING THIS.
>> WE DON'T KNOW.
>> WHAT IS THE REASON BECAUSE
THERE'S A HISTORY OF SOME SORT
OF ILLNESS.
>> RESEARCHERS ARE SAYING IT'S
INFERTILITY.
NOTHING TO DO WITH FERTILITY.
THEY'RE FER TILE BUT THIS GENE
GETS PASSED DOWN FROM
GENERATION TO GENERATION AND
SOME POINT YOU KNOW IT WILL
CAUSE DIFFERENT -- WHY DON'T
KNOW IF IT'S FATALITIES BUT
SOME KIND OF DEFECTS AND
DISORDERS.
>> THEIR ARGUMENT WOULD BE
THAT THEY WANT THEIR CHILDREN
TO BE HEALTHY.
>> ONE IN 6500 IS THE NUMBER
THAT WE HAVE HEARD OF THAT
HAVE SOME SORT OF DISEASE.
WE DON'T KNOW THE EXTENT BUT
WOMEN WANT TO TAKE PRECAUTIONS
SO WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO
IS HAVE THREE SETS OF DNA.
HERE ARE ALL KINDS OF
PROBLEMS.
WE CAN ADJUST, WE CAN SO I
HAVE HEALTHY MIT ROCHLT
OCHRONDLIA AND LET ME GET A
WOMAN WHO LOOKS GREAT AND GET
THAT PASSED ON.
>> HOW OFTEN ABOUT THAT
HAPPEN.
>> WE DON'T HAVE A CLUE BUT WE
DON'T KNOW WHAT RESEARCH HAS
DONE.
WE WIN MY GOSH WE CHANGED THE
SPECIES OF HUMANS.
WE'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO HAVE
TWO SETS.
>> THAT'S A BIT OF HYBERBOLE.
THIS IS POTENTIALLY VERY WORRY
GI WOULD AGREE.
>> BUT IT'S HAPPENED ALREADY.
WE HAVE CHANGED THE GERM LINE.
NOW THREE INDIVIDUAL GENES IN
YOU KNOW 30 CHILDREN AND IN
THE FUTURE THEY'LL HAVE
CHILDREN AND THEY'LL HAVE THAT
MANY MORE.
>> CAN THIS BE STOPPED.
>> IF WE KNOW ABOUT IT AND
PEOPLE TAKE PROOE PRECAUTIONS.
SAME AS WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT
IVF YOU COULD BE HOOKING UP
WITH YOUR BROTHER BECAUSE WE
DON'T KNOW THE DONOR.
THE SAME THING WITH THREE
DIFFERENT GENE CELLS.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXTENT
IS AND IF REALLY WORTHWHILE IN
THE LONG TERM.
>> AS LONG AS PLEASE GOD THAT
FAT MORON IN THE ORIGINAL
VIDEO IS NOT PUTTING HIS GENES
