Edward Snowden Brian Williams Nbc Interview Breakdown

Ryan Williams ventured over to moscow to interview Edward stone it's the first in-depth in person interview love to be out and it's a leader and the videos actually turned out pretty awesome he defended what he did his idea of what the the purpose of journalism is his idea what patriotism really means in the modern day and three to play a few of the clips of the video I let's let's start with her comp you have done quote significant an irreversible damage to the nation he said there is quote concrete proof the terrorist groups and others are taking action and making changes and it's going to make our job tougher and this amounts to telling our enemy our playbook so what's interesting is that we see the exact same language the exact same accusations I being leveled against whistleblowers being labeled against any critical any government program %uh throughout history throughout time daniel ellsberg got the exact same language leveled against by the nixon administration they said it wasn't gonna cause great damage that was your first do no harm that our national security has been harmed that he was gonna put american lives at risk but we've had so many years decades since daniel ellsberg so pentagon papers were revealed and yet not unlike independence so they apparently have concrete proof that he has that reversibly harmed american interests unfortunately the only way we're gonna see that concrete proof is another person like Edward snowden yeah I'm government documents I'm so I think that that was a i mean when we watch this before the the show you were nodding along with them ennui early on made the comparison with ellsberg I think he makes a very good point there people say but people what the critics obtained it I love snow too will say hey stay in the United States state & ellsberg didn't run he didn't leave okay a good point the other thing is they didn't torture back then were torturing people like we do now city tortured by Bradley Manning Chelsea Manning so maybe that would be a disincentive for you to stay here to be torture we also tortured Jose Padilla by the way so what they tortured a Bradley Manning for a year okay so maybe that's why you wanna stay and place Egypt Friday Nov ellsberg by the way calls Edwards noted a hero and said that he was right to leave the country so that ends that criticism that would snowed in that should and it won't end it people keep bringing this up but it should and it won't well i mean that that criticism I think we're together a little later in the video right but on to job snowed in there is no point here about how does the same exact language throughout history this spot on because that he's right I every single time you do something that the government does not like the government claims the you're hurting the nation you are threatening the lives of our beautiful children and if they died their blood is on your hands because you did something we did not like as the government as the same hired nonsense every single time and I'm and the problem is that there is no transparency here none whatsoever the transparency on this program didn't tell us what was going on and again you don't cause what that concrete in irreversible harm but not done to our country is they wanted to find it vaguely like I'm nothing if the show like this agent was killed on this day evening and the way he did but they can't they didn't even vaguely alluded to with this cell suddenly became quiet after the revelations that didn't even make up something it would be simple enough to make something up but they don't even go to that upper they never the it but they'll never also they never couple that with well he's made us less safe but he didn't stop the government doing all it on constitutional legal *** cell they eat they never Hayley three is the possibility they would stop unfortunately at least so far in the debate over possible reforms in congress they don't seem willing to make any significant changes %um don't make his last day mister spending six billion dollars no big contract for Booz Allen Hamilton to continue Dana data mining and not spending that money more efficiently elsewhere that make that last safe I having as drug droned indiscriminately in other parts of the world and killing people who are not guilty about any crimes yep other than having the wrong cell phone perhaps actually hundreds and hundreds about I civilians that make South last say yeah and you know blaming all of this on adverse known as if he is the one with bringing about these problems if if any problem happened emulated his feet that makes as less safe because we're not were not smartly and and judiciously and intelligently addressing real problems no we have we've been talking about sort of some the history of the things that america's done to generate opposition to our policy is to generate new terrace he talked specifically about how the US is used as through the memory and legacy of 9/11 welcome back up I think the brightest terrorism seriously I and I think we all do and I think it's really disingenuous for for the government to invoke I and sort of scandal eyes are memories disorder exploit the the national trauma that we all suffer together and worked so hard to come through to justify programs that have never been shown to keep us safe but cost us liberties and freedoms that we don't need to give up and our Constitution says we should not give up I'll say this he is one articulate man yeah he is that was excellent Howard Colin Harris anchor trader card trader bad bad person I mean I have to imagine he spent a lot of his time in moscow surf thinking this through the private that for several months in advance of stealing the documents and leaking them but yet he's done his his history work is done his research and I i think that when you look at what he says when you think about what he says and compare it to the attacks which were gonna show shortly coming from the people like Peter King people like john bainer it's hard not to be on his side now what but one of the most common criticisms I love him is that he went to russia because he wants to work for what more could you want to help invade ukraine or something like that on he talked specifically about the accusations were including with other puter regime in this clip so I have no relationship with the russian government all I'm I've never met the russian President iron I'm not supported by the russian government by taking money from the russian government I'm not a spot and he goes on to say why he ended up there in the first place in this clip do you see yourself as a patriot I do you know i i think patriot is a word that's thats thrown around so much that it can be devalued nowadays but being a patriot doesn't mean prioritizing service to government above all else being a patriot means knowing when to protect your country knowing when to protect your constitution knowing when to protect your country from the violations up in and encroachments up adversaries and those adversaries don't have to be foreign countries so again obviously he's been doing a lot of thinking a lot of philosophizing about serve the purpose of patriotism we're in america we're used to just your patriotism it's an overweight guy tromping around the woods michigan with an assault rifle like that would be treated as now it's someone who is willing to sacrifice is relationships his livelihood even where he lives and and flee to a place we doesn't know anyone doesn't belong there but he was willing to do it because he thought that that's what he needed to do to keep America safe that would be treated us yes because America the United States is really an idea right the ideas Liberty freedom and that's what he's really committed to and our constitution that's the idea that america is that he's more communities and certainly Brock Obama is or John Carey where the recipe we're gonna see a second I you're absolutely right I first I don't like the words patriot and and trader and these jingoistic terms because they're so self-serving and and I don't believe that our that any person is necessary a patriot war a trader that they may acted shy to be one day and beyond paycheck the next day saba much more complex look at I view that but the idea that America is an idea now to places absolutely correct any I mean america is not about the amber waves of grain to purple mountains I it's about the idea that as a nation of laws not men that is I equally under the law we have certain rights I that are are sacred and it doesn't matter if if we live where we currently live today it's not american you more if those rights art are distinguished yet yet and and preserving those rights I you know your own self payroll I is I guess the most patryk the Hindu yet yeah we we hear a lot of talk at least from certain acquire the country about people's rights and how much they wanna protect them but they never seem to be the most important rights like our actual privacy rights are rights to have an election that mean something alright alright for voice to mean something politically its always just the cons like that the only thing the the thing that they say is supposed to protect all the other rights at the end of the day seems to be the only thing they care about protecting at all on but okay so you let's go ahead we've got a stone talking about why it is that handed over all the documents has been accusations that he was retaining some information I heard handed over to the Russian government or to potentially blackmail the US government web reality is today I hold no document so I didn't want to risk bringing them for russia now I could have held onto that and tried to use it to to threaten the government I could have used it try to sell it or enrich myself but that would have gone against everything that I was trying to do so the question was what do I do it but at that point and the solution that I came up with was to destroy it to take it out my hands and entrusted forward to institutions in the press the best way to make sure that for example the russians can't break my fingers on and compromise information or or hit me with a bag of money until I give them something was not to have it all no I do have to say I don't know if I fully believe what he says about what's happened in his time in russia now because I think that he secretly is some sort of Russian sympathizer who wanted to help them out but once you're there any idea that he's never spoken with water but I find hard to believe the idea that that the russian government has been so benevolent that they haven't tried to put any pressure on they haven't tried to get any information Adam I find that very hard to believe and look obviously it's a lot easier to protect the information if you destroy it but you still know what you read you know quite a bit as he said in the interview he is his work then I say I brought the DIA the CIA like he knows quite a bit they could still get plenty of information from them if they wanted to so I think the idea that he has been completely inflated for any contact the russian government that seems questionable agreed and that goes my prior point that I don't like the view people as patriots or traders I can be both I so in a disclose all this information to the US that was patriotic he made that traders things once you know once you got there I have no idea he may or may not have hopefully didn't but it doesn't that's how I wanted in a broader point in his bucket somebody's got a saint I a patriot whose done nothing wrong purses this guy's a you know demonic trader who is evil I mean people complicated and you know if he's right living in Russia right now on their their protections that weekend is going grab him cases are they're going to get something out of him what could that be I don't know yeah probably something now and that the new date also might be worth what we learned from the leaks that he provided but it is weird in america how we automatically assume that certain actions protect America if you use military force who cares about the details you're protecting American interests when that could not be more unsure not only are you not necessarily protecting American interests but you might very well be doing far more damage than simply no action whatsoever I mean our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have undeniably created a new generation of terrorists in countries around the globe not even just the countries we invaded but the the the the changing views on american power and its application abroad has certainly created terrorists throughout that region and yet we put bush on tv dish of the paintings he's made of world leaders and what's known as hiding in moscow agreed and and further to that point you know makes me sick that someone like *** Cheney and his buddies are Halliburton got so insanely rich of these wars and some like Donald Rumsfeld that's smart *** I is you know strutting around you know at Nancy institutions teaching other people what you know how brilliant brilliant here's welcome I ever Snowden has to basically you know be in exile from a private firm of his life and not enjoy a you know all that great here in America so that's that's terrible and you know when I see those are those neo-cons on television speaking as if they had any authority on anything remotely related farm policy and again pushing for more wars that benefit their cronies II financially very handsomely I it just makes me sick I mean why do we even have the G one television you know what would you say look you were one hundred-percent I'm wrong about everything he said about the Iraq war with a shot up and go home