Thomas Ruskin on Hln - Missing baby lisa irwin - 10 - 17 - 11

Tom Ruskin private investigator and former NYPD detective investigator and linda kenney baden former member of the casey anthony defense team all of them brilliant in their own areas who are really lucky tim i want to start with you cuz you were just at this latest press conference what happened there well they announce that there's a new attorney represented represented family genotypic tina he worked in the yard and asleep case came in from new york today to take over really i think try to reset this case but to try to call to the public perception of dever in the family and what happens very interesting around issue of drinking he brought up two possibilities around the issue of her being drunk out one that if she was indeed that drunk she may not have heard an intruder coming into the house and secondly issue was drunk fishy pull off this perfect disappearance but with the baby is gone without a trace of this notebook so this definitely trying to come in recreate a a different sense of her more sympathetic sense of are also raising the issue that police focusing on her so much has attracted them from doing more searches you'd like to see more searches they have been doing searches today and yesterday they'd like to see more of that uh... going forty dailies and i think national guard f_b_i_ police e_s_ i'd bet a lot of people out there it sounds like jealous trying created defense uh... it's time to certainly lapsed into something like that yeah we decide on teens today right here at their home where baby d these two disappeared so that the family today gave consent again to research the so we saw them out here with dogs bug going not only here but the neighbors have and the whole where they've been saying for the last few days what is a lot less clear on is will they uh... be able to interview the family get whatever and jeremy the parents be interviewed by police again it's been about a week since the last of the new please and their two sons i believe about eight and five but they haven't spoken to the pleasing quite some time either very circumspect about whether they'll be able to do that so on one hand sort of criticizing the please a little bit for not focusing more on thirteen th yet not really clear whether they'll let them be interviewed again but definitely trying to create i think uh... a defense is a fair way to put it in origin thank you and alan alan is here because you know i don't acting as engine mentioned working on that your email yesterday and you know organically standing trial hearing you can understand why people are looking at her with uh... with especially if you're looking at the guys that you know what i look at that scene i saw the window still there in the krebs sold the house means holland everyone is why wouldn't they take a nap hadn't given to the crime rate to look for it that's this consideration because if you want to see if indeed the parents are guilty or not guilty one is that the suspect not says the pump that tell you what's gonna happen you eighty at some point they're good because of the drinking that are rest at mother that their arrest the father for allowing medicare for that child while she's proud they've been a separate them and they're gonna try to turn them on one another whether or not the guilty for not so would you counsel them to continue talking to police or because player i don't think you know i am it's been a week it's been whether it's been a lot of time that's enough for the listening to the question is will give you the answer is and also was that i have a ton the court's take those kids in a good look at the station appointed guardian and go question is how i think that i think you certain point on within the jewish then they have to warn iraq was separate release right then they have conflicting issues than in an area not they're not going to be married to somebody else's clearly separated one of the children is is that i hit this and the boyfriends child with someone else the other child is her child with her estranged husband and this third baby the baby that's missing if their child together so there are so many pieces identified certainly office but it makes a very difficult near saint separate shes so mentally they may have to have separate cantaloop was arrested they were made behoove the other one to get separate councillor joe tecum peanut being the attorney that he is going to be excellent attorney has he makes a a certain point of i can only represent deborah i can only represent galloway is the editor of the defense that sure sounded like he is definitely looking to protection a river has his own italian visualization is looking to protect his stories and that's his job at this point i just also because he believes his quasar innocent is to get the police to do what the police should be doing all along with the f_b_i_ did tonight with the f_b_i_ did today is they came in was sent the world's they got permission to go into the house to retrieve a sent from the crib and from her car and then to drive the dogs to see where it takes in so you can take some time we have and that's what they found those let me ask you another question jim on i've heard that they also very quietly were trying to read it take things from a neighbor's house did you see that are hear anything about it police on the neighbor's house was uh... dog billion but dogs go in with the police they were in there for some time they came out with bags we initially were wondering if this was evidence of something the f_b_i_ pulled is that those are just materials that the dogs use window out there doing the stands we know that this is a family that has babysat the child before and looked after the job and even at that that that that radar contact is right next door so op we're wondering if those were the sense that the religious mention uh... coming out to add to that search we're not sure about that yet we weren't able to get that confirm that split question we have been for the police believe what i think it's going to happen here is that you know you can't discount the possibility that shot was taken as if it's alive shahzad we need to find a child and some other c_n_n_ child that mother being as the drunken said his family doesn't deserve to have that they do we have to protect their baby so until we know all at first have to be a fun and i think that is the first thing you think is that some of you can have a child or were you know whatever has gone and snatched ababy but to win i support it could have been someone who does who said she gets drunk all the time she passes out and i don't know that we can go to a donation technology showcase with drug that is a different idea when that we do know she's come out to skills she basically a has told two different stories that as an investigator would rob me of the wrong way initial also white she may have failed the polygraph the world the first five she knew she was telling lies yet she knew she was telling a lie she knows that he was in ten thirty it's now six thirty she could've for very possibly failed a polygraph the first time only because of those allies absolute asking other unit by saying these things it's clear that she did no more then patriot even if you have uh... is she struck why she's fell asleep in rolled over on the child actually suffocated chicago admission sent the problem is no one seems to know and because you live and tell different stories doesn't mean you're guilty of worker or taking her to your child becoming you guilty of china covered snails or maybe not we don't know com you can understand now unit you you want further please messier purposes you have to go in there and estimates that's the crime scene and it's not just the baby gone but the parents as the suspects correct and so you've got to really focus on the area that you know the child was in yet at the same time you know the mother and other people are czar accurately also saying he spent all the time here you can spend the time there can you effectively run the investigation doing it all well with thirty to forty investigators which gives the city police department have given plus the f_b_i_ people you're running a very intense investigation and you are traveling you know following up on every leaves i think that they're up to five hundred leads at this point on to the following up on those leads as well i think eventually the story will bear out if the parents are responsible or someone else's responsible but i think that the police department is doing everything that they possibly could do the paris also have to protect themselves especially if they know that they were innocent let me know they want to find that cell phones we haven't talked about it those cell phones there were no cell phones are is where you find a strategy to avoid being out today which is very very interesting with the police said that there was a quality of thirty in the morning those cell phones will shut off the couldn't pay for them is with the parents are signing today so they could have made an outgoing call at two thirty in the morning the police and they have been using that as a ploy no abut the parents know that the would not telling them that reluctantly your analysis where that was the biggest weird to me is how the parents haven't tried the phone if i have lost my phone in my baby i've been trying those phones every ten minutes apprehensive but never had tried there are a lot of questions that not answer here thank you so much for joining us now on politics fascinate scientists plays i did and i think i did and it's coming down with very and make your mother and more on the disappearance of baby mister graphic way