Is The Drug War Actually Being Won?

welcome back to the david fashion show welcome back to the david packard show after the show make sure you're getting him you've bt l of the bonus show another one of the new member benefits for david packages subscribers you can find out everything at the department dot com slash membership you know all this was the best month in terms of new david patten show member since the program launched september potentially has that has the potential as of where we are right now to actually surpass our guest and that would be great that would cover debate and and certainly were already going to be able to do some new extra cool stuff november an october as a result of uh... of the new membership has been tested looking forward to it we have no three million memberships yeah how do you for that accurate talk about that aka hey you know how we always talk about where we're losing the war on drugs in other words we have overcrowded prisons we still have incredibly high abuse rates for drugs addiction rates uh... crime as a result of drugs et cetera we've we've talked about that so many times lists i got an interesting email though from an audience member eric who said you know we talk about the war on drugs failing it's actually not true the war on drugs is a success hear me now the purpose of the drug war never was the limit drug usage its purpose with decriminalized minority communities for one and that has been a massive success we see that the met vast majority of police in black and latino areas while the majority of drug usage is in white area see the partnership for a drug-free america for information so if this is truly a war on drugs then why are there thousands of police patrolling my community and wire one out of every three black men in prison instead of one out of every three white men which statistically would make more sense this is an interesting concept may be the drug war is being one in the sense that we have a huge huge huge government spending on alcohol tobacco and firearms d_e_a_ f_b_i_'s involved in in in drug stuff as well we have drug smuggling is a business that is taking place we have people in prisons many of which are for-profit prisons as a result of non-violent drug-related offenses so it's truthful if we first second think about the fact that maybe we don't believe the idea of the war on drugs is just to limit the usage of drugs it's to create this prison industrial complex also including government agencies operations staff programs maybe the war on drugs is actually a success based on what it is actually meant to do right well then it's not really a war is it this war by definition you you where you lose okay i would say is this a success or failure has the war on drugs exceeded or fail well that's what i'm saying we were assuming that a successful war on drugs means there's no more drugs being used or there's no more drugs around right but what i'm saying is i think we've we've been looking at it wrong i think a successful war on drugs from the point of view of the government agencies that are involved in fighting the so-called war prosperous it's actually prosperous people are making money lawyers prisons the amount of prison industrial complex was doing incredibly well as we see from prison overcrowding and we also have what some would consider to be a very racial or racist component to the war on drugs which is a significant over representation in prisons of of minorities particularly black and latino soon so commitment you think the war on drugs is actually winning the timing do you even believe when we always talk about though the cold war on drugs is a war to stop at the usage in availability a of drugs that just doesn't seem to be the case he's now you know even on my cat incredible yeah i don't know really what this amin if it's the case that some people are planning of the people plan the drug war their intention was to imprison minorities that's a pretty big then that considers you success mineta pretty day accusation either it's true matt and i don't think that it's like that and i think that's like that i think it doesn't have to be that people sit down and say look to the black people in prison because it'll make others feel safer i think it's it's it's implicit in the discussions about quote cleaning up the streets all of those things it's is under the radar it's not so much explicit so i don't know that it's an accusation that can be proven or disprove ins per se it's what's implied by it so what can we do to stop drug use if that's what you know stopping authorities will never happen it's an unwinnable war i don't know paramount that's the next question i think you argue should never be we will address what if anything can be done to stop drug use and should that be a goal but please email me about david david dot min dot com in will address it on a feature show