Jacque Fresco - New zealand full tv interview - Multilingual subtitles - Part 2 of 2

So he silenced them and I spoke to them a little bit. Then I said, "Lou, you can look at a person and tell us all about him." "How do you do that?" He said, "Well, I didn't think I can teach you anything." I said, "Well, if you can do that, tell me how it's done." So, I brought some pictures down at the *** meeting and projected them on the wall. And Lou said, "He looks like a good man, a God fearing man, American veteran" projecting his own values. On the end of the picture, I pull down the bottom, it says "Wanted by the FBI for subversive action against the United States." When he used to speak, he just said anything and the others, not knowing anything, shook their head. This is the first time what he said didn't make sense, so his group started to laugh at him. So I said to the guys, "Shut your mouth, 'cause Lou knows more about people than we do." I had to defend him till the next film. The next film was a record of a man talking in an oxford accent about aviation. He said, "I see a skinny Englishman with a bald head and eyeglasses." He's projecting his own values. Now then, 10 minutes later, the image comes on it's a black guy, raised in England. "It's a goddammed *** talking like an Englishman!" This is Lou's reaction, not my words. And I said, "Lou, that guy was raised in a different environment." If you took a black man and raised him in France he'd speak like a Frenchman, if he was a baby. If you raised him in Germany, he'd speak with a German accent. He says, "You mean to say that a black man speaks that way because he's raised?" Yes. I said "Lou, if I took your kid and raised it in a Jewish family, he'd be a nice Jewish boy. In a Nazi family, a nice Nazi." People are not taught how to think, they reflect their culture. Proof, that in Italy you talk with the hands. "Mannaggia d'americano!," see? You say, "Come ona, eat, it's a gooda food." That's not you, that's the environment impinging upon you. We don't teach children how to think. "So, it's nurture versus nature, the grand debate?" Yeah. Nature. Environment shapes values, facial expressions. If you were brought up in the deep South, you'll speak with a southern accent. And if all you hear is "The dammed *** are lazy, they don't do..." If that's all you hear, that's what you reflect. So you might say, "I'm goin' get me a *** an' I goin' kick his ***." Is that you, or a reflection of your culture? Think about it. Always... "If I was a serial killer..." Oh, here's what makes a serial killer. There was a guy named, in the early days this guy, they believed, ate 45 children. The public wanted to tear him to pieces 'cos the public looks at him as free will. I look at it as indoctrination. Now, what kind of indoctrination makes a serial killer? So a psychiatrist named Wertham wrote a book called "Show of violence". Most people never read it. Essentially, here's the guts of it When he was about eight years old, he was touching his private parts and his mother was an old time Baptist. She said, "You're gonna burn in Hell touching that part of your body! You will burn eternally!" She scared the hell out of the kid and that evening the mother said, "He stuck needles into his genitals." He didn't want to go to Hell, can you understand that? So he used to go into the woods with minority children and try to cut their genitals off. To save them from Hell. What do you think a soldier is? A guy that's shown motion pictures of a Japanese guy raping an American woman, pregnant. And so the enlistment goes up. So, people are taught to hate. Before the war, remember, it was, "Pretty parasol and fan in far off Japan." Now, "Slanty-eyed ***." The Germans are not people, they're "krauts". All nations are corrupt, they all teach their people to hate; hatred and to be patriotic. Einstein said, "Patriotism is a disease." It separates people. -You're not born with bigotry, prejudice, anger or envy that's nurtured, you experience that through your environment. If you approached a head hunter in the Amazon and said "Oh my God, don't you feel terrible? You have ten shrunken heads!" He may say "Yes, my brother has twenty." -Is he bad? No. -So how, if we know what is... I mean we can look at all the influences on society that are needed. -They don't know how to do that today. -And we come to what, we look at this vision that you have. How, again, how do we get there? Because a lot of people have no vested interest -I know. -in abandoning the way things are done now. -We want to make a major motion picture showing how we get from here to there. It's not going to be smooth, there's going to be a lot of problems, a lot of assasinations. This is normal to that much of a change if you want to bring. But if you want to try to patch up the old system it'll take many years and many wars. We don't have the time if all nations are building nuclear weapons now, 'cos they don't trust each other. -Is your life in danger? -What's that? -"If you come up with something that's so radically..." My life is always in danger. It's always been in danger. I developed the first flying wing aircraft, I had nothing but trouble. I worked on long hours of children working in factories and tried to stop that. I'm 94 now. I do all I can do rather than fear death. I don't fear death. I fear where man is going. The hell they can produce is unbelievable. Because of human, not really human stupidity, they're not educated in our schools. Our universities are better equipped than ever, and the wars are getting worse. So, how can we be sane if the weapons are getting worse? -"Roxanne, he doesn't worry about himself, but do you worry about him? Because, the things he is talking about breaking the natural order, don't they? The established order." -We both are very afraid of where things are going out there and if you sit back and do nothing, nothing will happen. So, he's been working on a new approach all his life that nobody else is dealing with. They're all trying to patch up this system and it's this monetary system that creates the aberrant behavior that creates the pollution that creates the terrible situation between people and the environment. So, if we sit back and do nothing, this'll continue to go right down into the ground. And what it takes is introducing these new ideas. People think in terms of socialism, communism, free-enterprise system, or fascism nothing has been introduced. So we want to show it in film to show people really just what type of future they can have if they work together and create and make all the natural resources as the common heritage of all the Earth's people. This is the only way we'll go beyond what we are doing today. Otherwise, there'll be more and more suffering if we don't use the scientific method applied to the way we live. "You will never stop, will you? You will never stop." -The language we use today was designed hundreds of years ago. That makes it impossible to talk to one another. When you read the Bible, it's subject to interpretation. People say, "Jesus meant this," "No, he meant that!" So you got the Lutherans, Seventh-Day Adventists, Catholic. So, we need a language that's not subject to interpretation; mathematics, chemistry. When chemists talk to each other, it's not "I think you mean this." When structural engineers build a bridge, they talk to each other and they understand exactly. We need that in the common language, otherwise when you talk to a person, I don't care if it's your wife or children it goes through their head, comes out different as they think you mean it. That's the danger of the world today. So people say to you, "Have a nice weekend." Why don't they say, "Have a nice life." Why just the weekend? 'Cause that's the normal. See, they don't know what they are talking about, most people. Now, how do I get up and turn them around? By identifying with their values and gradually as fast as I can, I'll take them into the new world. -"You're sneaky." -See, here's where people get mad at me. They say, "You want to give people things for nothing." I say, "If you're born in America and England and France you got the airplane, the automobile, the telephone, the electric light. You didn't work on any of that. You got it for nothing. Does it hurt you? No!" There's nothing wrong with having people access whatever they need without money. We can turn out volumes of goods today with automation and make it available to everybody. That's the end of most crime. Most crime. -"Could you ever see yourself stopping?" "Stopping thinking, stopping advocating." -Well, a brain disease, or aging maybe might have a stroke and not be able to do it. That's possible in this world. But in the future I talk about, everyone is cared for, from babies to old age and no one is in authority. We don't tell people how to live. All the machines do is make goods available, transport it, they do not control people. -"And that's possible?" -Yes. It was posible in 1927. -At the beginning of automation in fabrication. -"But we're terrified of the machines taking over." -That's because they take your job away. See, in the future when a new machine comes in, we call the help in say, "You used to work 8 hours a day, now it's 4. You used to have a week-two weeks vacaction a year. Now it's six weeks to be with your family and all." So machines are no longer used to aggrandize the powerful. They can't lay you off. The machines are now operated for the benefit of all humanity. There's no more separate nations with artificial boundaries. If single nations control most of the resources, there's going to be trouble. Has to be, continuously. There'll always be war and rumors of war if you keep it this way. It's only when the Earth is declared the common heritage of all the world's people that's the end of territorial invasion. If you don't understand that, I'm sorry, I'll give you all examples you want. I know what makes those troubles. Some people do and say, "Oh, what can I do? Do what you can. If you do nothing, nothing will happen. Everybody that brought liberation to women's right, black rights, polish rights it is not, that isn't what you want. All the people need the same things Free access to the necessities of life. Otherwise, they suffer. Now, what's so difficult about that? -It's the movies that make people fearful of technology. They really project the free-enterprise system into the future and all these robots and technology are working against people. That's what they do today. So they are afraid of technology today with the bombs and the missiles and the war and the technology that displaces people and they have no purchasing power but that's not what a resource-based economy would do. They'd use technology for the benefit of people and the environment. -All over the world. -"Finally, how achievable is this? If, if everything went according to plan..." -According to Peter Joseph, who started The Zeitgeist Movement he told me two months ago that 50 million people now know about The Venus Project and are all working towards it. So I have a whole pile of magazines, from all over the world each one talks about The Venus Project positively. -The Zeitgeist Movement is the activist arm of The Venus Project. After Peter Joseph did the film Zeitgeist Addendum, it became well-known all over the world. And now there are chapters in almost every city in the U.S. and every country all over the world. And they're working towards these ends. They are talking to people, they are introducing it in their media in their TV, in any way that they can. It really depends on what people do to make this come about. -We don't want to hurt anybody, or kill anybody 'cause we don't look down on anybody. We look at them as victims of culture. It's not their fault.