Reunion Part 2

- PREVIOUSLY ON THE SHAHS OF SUNSET REUNION... - I DON'T CARE IF I WAS [bleep] IN FRONT OF THE POPE ALMIGHTY. - NO MORON ON PLANET EARTH LEAVES ANY CAREER THEY'RE THRIVING IN. - YOU'RE GONNA CALL ME UGLY? - GIRLS, GIRLS, YOU'RE BOTH PRETTY. - LILLY'S A FAKE FRIEND. LILLY DOESN'T CALL ME. WHEN DID YOU CALL ME? - STOP VICTIMIZING YOURSELF. - WHY DO YOU KEEP SAYING I WANT TO BE ON THE SHOW? - WHY DO YOU WANT TO BE ON THE SHOW? - BECAUSE I'M ON THE SHOW! I'M A CAST MEMBER! - YOU DON'T THINK THIS CAN BE MENDED? - NO. - WILL YOU EVER TRULY TRUST HIM? - NO. - THERE'LL ALWAYS BE A GAP BETWEEN US FOREVERMORE. - AND TONIGHT... - DO YOU HAVE TO CALL EVERYONE A ***? - [laughs] - NOTHING SAYS I LOVE YOU MORE THAN CONVERTING TO JUDAISM. - THIS *** THIS, THIS *** THAT. - WOULD YOU GO INSIDE THE SIXTEENTH CHAPEL? - SISTINE. - THAT'S WHAT I SAID. [laughter] - IF YOU ARE GAY, THEY WILL GIVE YOU A FREE SEX CHANGE. - ANDY'S EYEBALLS POPPED OUT OF HIS HEAD. - IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, THEY'D BE CHANTING, "DEATH TO AMERICA." - IT WAS THE VERY FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I'D EVER HEARD HER TALK ABOUT HAVING KIDS. - I'D GET BEAT UP BY GUYS LIKE YOU WHO [bleep] CALL ME F.O.B. - YOU KEEP CALLING ME A BULLY. - YOU'RE ONE OF THE MOST UN-NURTURING MOTHERS THAT'S EVER WALKED THE PLANET. - I WAS MOURNING THE DEATH OF OUR FRIENDSHIP 'CAUSE I'VE LOST ONE OF MY GOOD FRIENDS. - SEEMS LIKE NO MATTER WHAT WE SAY TO EACH OTHER OR WHAT WE DO, IT GOES BACK TO SQUARE ONE EVERY TIME. [sniffles] - HERE'S A GOOD ONE FOR MJ. THIS IS FROM CAROL FROM LOS ANGELES, WHO SAID, "WHY ARE IRANIANS ALWAYS LATE FOR EVERY SOCIAL OCCASION?" - I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT ANSWER FOR WHY WE'RE LATE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S DEFINITELY RUNS TRUE IN MY CASE. - YOU KNOW WHAT MERC DOES? IF SHE THINKS SHE HAS TIME, SHE'LL JUST START MESSING, LIKE, WITH HER FACE, HER EYEBROWS. - YOU HAVE A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITIES. PERSIANS, WE HAVE TO WALK THE DOGS. WE HAVE TO BRING HOME THE BACON. WE HAVE TO COOK IT. WE HAVE TO CLEAN IT. - THOSE ARE PERSIAN RESPONSIBILITIES? - I THINK SO. - YOU DO? SOUNDS LIKE HUMAN BEING RESPONSIBILITIES. I WALK MY DOG. - DO YOU? - I DO. [laughter] REZA, WE'VE ALWAYS SEEN YOU AS AN ENLIGHTENED GAY MAN WHO'S BEEN KIND OF PERSECUTED FOR HIS IDENTITY. HOW DID YOU GO FROM THAT TO WINDING UP SHOUTING THE "F" WORD IN A GAY BAR? - WHY ARE YOU COMING IF YOU DON'T WANT YOUR [bleep] *** BROTHER... - NONE OF YOUR [bleep] BUSINESS. - THIS WAS A HUGELY CONTROVERSIAL MOMENT FOR YOU AND FOR THE SHOW. - I'M TRULY SORRY. THOSE WERE ALL MY ISSUES, AND WERE THINGS THAT HAPPENED AFTER A SERIES OF EVENTS. [clears throat] SO WHAT HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN CHATTING ABOUT? - HE HEARD SOME BAD STUFF ABOUT IRAN. I'M TRYING TO CHANGE HIS MIND. - WHAT WERE THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT? - NOE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY UPSET ME WAS THE WAY HE WAS SPEAKING ABOUT IRAN. - UH-HUH. - HE'S HERE ENJOYING ALL OF THE FREEDOM THAT YOU GET TO HAVE WHEN YOU LIVE HERE, BUT TALKING ABOUT IRAN AS IF IT WERE CLUB MED. AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE DISRESPECTFUL, BUT TO TALK ABOUT HOW WONDERFUL IRAN IS IS TRIGGERING A LOT OF THINGS IN ME. I WAS LIVING HERE WHILE THEY WERE DOING WHATEVER THEY WERE DOING IN IRAN, AND HE'S TELLING ME ABOUT HOW HIS FAMILY WAS FOR THE REVOLUTION, ALL THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER, AND HE'S GAY LIVING HERE, ENJOYING THE FREEDOM THAT GOES ALONG WITH BEING AMERICAN. NONE OF THEM CAN UNDERSTAND HOW THAT MAKES ME FEEL. - WHAT? REALLY? - BECAUSE... - BECAUSE I AM SOMEONE WHO SUFFERED FOR 40 YEARS BECAUSE OF THE CRAP THEY DID IN IRAN, BECAUSE MY NAME IS REZA AND I LOOK LIKE THIS. MY NAME IS NOT LILLY. MY NAME IS NOT MIKE. MY NAME IS REZA. I LOOK LIKE THIS. AND I AM AS PERSIAN AS PERSIAN GETS WHEN YOU LOOK AT ME. SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS WENT INTO HOW I FELT. - FIRST OF ALL, ANY F.O.B. THAT COMES HERE, THEY STAND OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB. - EVEN IF I'M F.O.B., YOU DON'T SAY, "THAT'S NOT NICE." - IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING NICE. IT'S A FACT. - SO WHEN YOU CALL SOMEONE F.O.B., THAT MEANS, FRESH OFF THE BOAT? - CORRECT. - SO YOLANDA FROM GARDEN GROVE, CALIFORNIA, SAID, "I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU THINK IT'S OKAY "TO CONTINUE TO USE SUCH A HATEFUL TERM SUCH AS F.O.B." DO YOU THINK THAT'S A HATEFUL TERM. - NO. - NOT AT ALL. - NOT THE WAY YOU WERE USING IT? - NO. - NO. IT'S A TEASE, IF ANYTHING. - I DON'T THINK IT'S-- I DON'T THINK IT'S NICE. - WELL, DO YOU THINK THAT SOMEONE MAYBE ONCE REFERRED TO YOUR MOM AS AN F.O.B. WHEN SHE FIRST CAME HERE, OR YOUR FAMILY AS AN F.O.B.? - ABSOLUTELY. - ABSOLUTELY. - OKAY, AND DO YOU THINK THEN THAT IT WAS NOT A TERM OF-- - BUT ANDY, WE CAME HERE, AND WE, LIKE, WORSHIPPED THE GROUND THAT WE WALKED ON. WE WERE SO APPRECIATIVE TO BE IN THIS COUNTRY AND BE AFFORDED THE THINGS THAT WENT ALONG WITH BEING HERE, AND WE WERE COMPLETELY AGAINST WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE. HE FELT THE INTENSITY-- - BUT YOU DID MAKE FUN OF SASHA'S ACCENT. - ABSOLUTELY I DID. - IT'S REALLY ANNOYING. - THE POOR [bleep] GUY JUST GOT HERE FROM IRAN. DUDE, I CAME HERE FROM IRAN IN 1978 TO TWO IMMIGRANT PARENTS THAT HAD NO IDEA HOW TO SPEAK ENGLISH. ALL THEY WOULD SPEAK WITH ME IS FARSI AT HOME. I WAS A CHUBBY, NERDY KID THAT DIDN'T KNOW ENGLISH. I WAS AN ESL. I'D COME OUT ON THE PLAYGROUND TO GET BEAT UP BY GUYS LIKE YOU WHO [bleep] CALLED ME F.O.B. 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THE LANGUAGE. - I NEVER IN MY LIFE BEAT ANYONE UP. - I WAS THE UNDERDOG GROWING UP. - I DON'T THINK IT'S NICE. - AND I WASN'T GONNA LET REZA BULLY HIM REGARDLESS IF HE'S MY BEST FRIEND OR NOT. AND I HAD TO STICK UP FOR HIM BECAUSE IT BROUGHT BACK MEMORIES FOR ME OF PEOPLE LIKE HIM THAT WERE BULLYING PEOPLE LIKE ME WHEN I WAS YOUNGER. AND THIS GUY SEEMED HELPLESS, AND I FELT BAD FOR HIM. - JUST STOP IT RIGHT [bleep] NOW. RIGHT [bleep] NOW, JUST STOP IT. - I'M LEAVING. YOU GUYS STAY AND HANG OUT WITH HIM. [indistinct arguing] YOU KEEP CALLING ME A BULLY. - YOU ARE A BULLY. YOU'RE A [bleep] BULLY. - BEAT UP PEOPLE... - WHEN YOU GOT SIGNED TO THE SHOW, HERE'S YOUR EXACT WORDS. YOU SAID, "IF I CAN HELP ONE GAY GUY, ONE GAY KID, FEEL OKAY ABOUT BEING GAY," THEN YOU'VE DONE YOUR JOB ON BEING ON THE SHOW. BUT YOU'RE A [bleep] HYPOCRITE BECAUSE AS SOON AS YOU SAW ONE THAT YOU DIDN'T LIKE, THOSE RULES DIDN'T APPLY. - JUAN PABLO FROM SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, SAID, "REZA, DO YOU REALIZE HOW OPPRESSED GAY PEOPLE ARE "IN IRAN? "HOW DO YOU THINK IT BENEFITS THEM "HAVING ONE OF THE ONLY GAY PERSIAN PEOPLE ON TELEVISION FEEDING RIGHT INTO OUTDATED HOMOPHOBIC BELIEFS AND SLURS?" - HONESTLY, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. ALL I CAN DO IS APOLOGIZE FOR WHAT HAPPENED AND SHED LIGHT ON THE EXPERIENCE THAT LED ME UP TO THAT POINT. BUT IN THE END, REGARDLESS, IT WAS ALL WRONG. AND ALTHOUGH I'M TRULY SORRY THAT IT WAS AT HIS EXPENSE, IT WAS SUCH A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR ME THAT I'M REALLY GRATEFUL. 'CAUSE I ACTUALLY DIDN'T KNOW THAT ALL THOSE THINGS WERE JUST RIGHT UNDER THE SURFACE. - WHAT COULD YOU DO? - I MEAN, MAYBE I COULD, YOU KNOW, TALK TO HIM AND... AT LEAST UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HE'S GONE THROUGH IN LIFE WHICH HAVE LED HIM TO THIS PLACE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WENT THROUGH GROWING UP OVER THERE. I MEAN, DEFINITELY, I SHOULD APOLOGIZE TO HIM. I REALIZED THAT ALL I NEED TO DO IS HAVE EMPATHY FOR SOMEONE I WASN'T ABLE TO HAVE EMPATHY FOR. I COULDN'T SEE HIM THE WAY I WAS SUPPOSED TO SEE HIM. - SO IS THERE SELF-LOATHING INVOLVED IN THIS? - I'M SURE THERE IS. AND THAT'S WHY I HAD TO DO WHAT I HAD TO DO TO OFFER AN APOLOGY THAT WAS GENUINE. - REZA, ANDREA FROM SUFFERN, NEW YORK, SAID, "IF REZA APOLOGIZED TO SASHA, "WHY IS HE HAVING SUCH DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING WHY MIKE TOLD HIM THAT HIS BEHAVIOR WAS WRONG?" - BECAUSE THE ONE THING THAT IS DIFFERENT BETWEEN ME AND MIKE, MIKE LIKES TO TAKE THE MOMENT TO POINT FINGERS AND PUNISH YOU AND PUT YOU DOWN AND THEN STAND IN THE GLOW OF, YOU KNOW, HIS SUPERIORITY IN THAT SITUATION. BUT WHAT I WANTED FROM MIKE-- AND I SAID TO HIM, "I'M GLAD YOU STAYED THERE." IF I WERE THE PERSON ON THE RECEIVING END OF THAT, I WISH SOMEONE WOULD HAVE STAYED THERE. IT WAS AFTER THE FACT THAT I DROPPED OFF THE FACE OF THE PLANET, AND HE NEVER REACHED OUT TO ME. - LET ME ASK YOU, IS THERE A RULE? DO YOU HAVE TO BACK YOUR FRIENDS UP EVEN IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THEM? - I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK THAT-- - WE MIGHT ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION-- - YEAH, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, IS THAT, LIKE, I HAD A DIFFERENT OPINION. I TOOK HER SIDE. IT COST ME THIS. THEN THIS HAPPENED. I TOOK HIS SIDE. IT COST US THIS. - I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD TAKE SIDES. - I THINK YOU DO BACK YOUR FRIENDS. - I THINK--ANDY, I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE FRIENDS, YOU HAVE TO TELL THEM THEY MADE A MISTAKE, BUT YOU HAVE TO ULTIMATELY AT THE END ACCEPT THEM AND LOVE THEM AND MOVE ON. I NEVER TOLD HIM WHAT HE DID WAS RIGHT. - ABOUT THE SITUATION WITH REZA AND SASHA. AND EVEN THOUGH PERSONALLY, I FEEL THAT REZA WAS WRONG, I BACKED REZA-- - OF COURSE I WAS WRONG. - I BACKED REZA AT THAT MOMENT, BECAUSE HE IS MY FRIEND. BUT YOU BACK THEM POLITICALLY. - BUT ANDY, I DON'T EVERY SAY I WASN'T WRONG. MIKE HAS DONE A LOT OF THINGS TO MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS... - GO EFF YOURSELF. - THAT HAS BEEN VERY DISRESPECTFUL. BUT I ALWAYS HAVE HIS BACK. I DEFEND HIM TO THOSE PEOPLE, AND I TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT LATER. - IT'S BULL[bleep]. - WHY ARE YOU SO MAD? - AND YOU--DON'T GET ME STARTED WITH YOU. - I'M GOING EASY ON YOU RIGHT NOW. - NO, DON'T GET ME STARTED WITH YOU. YOU ARE NUMBER ONE [bleep] POM-POM CHEERLEADER, WHATEVER REZA SAYS. - I DID SIDE WITH REZA. - IT'S [bleep] BULL[bleep]. - COMING UP... - WOULD YOU GO INSIDE THE SIXTEENTH CHAPEL? - SISTINE. - SISTINE. - NOT SIXTEENTH. - THAT'S WHAT I SAID. - SOUNDED LIKE YOU SAID THE SIXTEENTH CHAPEL. [laughter] - THEY DON'T JUST STONE GAY PEOPLE TO DEATH. THEY ACTUALLY-- IF YOU ARE GAY, THEY WILL GIVE YOU A FREE SEX CHANGE TO BECOME A WOMAN. - YOU'RE ALL PROUD PERSIANS. PROUDLY IDENTIFY AS IRANIANS. AND THIS YEAR MOST OF YOU GOT A CHANCE TO VISIT THE MIDDLE EAST. FOR THE FIRST TIME TOGETHER, SOME OF YOU FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER. AND IT WAS A TRANSFORMATIVE EXPERIENCE. WHY WAS THIS TRIP SO IMPORTANT, ASA? - IT WAS A PERSONAL JOURNEY, LIKE A PILGRIMAGE OF SORTS. IT WAS SO SPECIAL TO HAVING MY FRIENDS WITH ME. IT WAS SO SPECIAL 'CAUSE I SAW MY FAMILY THERE. I MEAN, IT WAS TRULY, COMPLETELY LIFE-CHANGING FOR ME. - WELCOME, YOUR HIGHNESS. THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU. - SHUT UP. SULTANAHMET IS AN AREA IN ISTANBUL. IT'S ANCIENT. 4 A.D. I'M, LIKE, CHANNELING THE HISTORY AND WHO I AM, AND I'M JUST SLIDING THROUGH THE STREETS OF ISTANBUL. OH, YAY, WE'RE IN TURKEY. - GG, IN WHAT WAYS DID ISTANBUL REMIND YOU OF IRAN? - YOU KNOW, IT WAS VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE WE WERE THERE DURING A HUGE HOLIDAY. - YEAH. - SO BEING THERE DURING THAT HOLIDAY WAS VERY SIGNIFICANT FOR ME. AND SEEING THE CULTURE REMINDED ME OF IRAN. - IT SEEMED LIKE SEEING WOMEN FULLY VEILED WAS SHOCKING FOR SOME OF YOU. - THE ALL-BLACK? IT FREAKS ME OUT. I'M NOT GONNA LIE. I DON'T LIKE IT AESTHETICALLY. I DON'T LIKE IT SYMBOLICALLY. I DON'T LIKE IT RELIGIOUSLY. - IT'S NOT COOL TALKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE AND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND WHAT THEY CHOOSE. IT'S [bleep] UP. - IF I WERE AN AMERICAN, LIKE, FAMILY, AND I WAS VACATIONING IN TURKEY, AND MY KIDS SAW THAT, THEY WOULD BE SCARED. - WHY BE SCARED? WHY BE SCARED? - IMAGINE IF THESE PEOPLE COME TO AMERICA WHAT YOU DRESS LIKE, WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE, THE WAY YOU WALK, THE WAY YOU TALK-- WHATEVER--THEY'RE LIKE, "OH, MY GOD, LOOK AT THAT IDIOT." - WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE APPROACH WAS DISRESPECTFUL. - IT WAS A KNEEJERK REACTION. YOU KNOW, BUT STILL IT WAS WRONG. IT WAS WRONG. - I HAD A VISCERAL REACTION EVERY TIME I SAW IT. IT FREAKED ME OUT. I'D NEVER BEEN AROUND IT BEFORE. - TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR TRIP TO THE OLD MOSQUE AND HEARING THE CALL FOR PRAYER AT THE MOSQUE. - YOU KNOW, JUST FOR ME PERSONALLY, IT TOOK ME BACK TO MY CHILDHOOD. IT KIND OF MADE ME HAPPY. [muezzin vocalizing] WHEN I'M ASKED IF I'M MUSLIM, I RESPOND, "YES, BUT NOT PRACTICING. YES, BUT I'M NOT ISLAMIC." BECAUSE I'M AFRAID THAT I'M GONNA BE LABELED AS A TERRORIST. AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE, THERE WAS NO SHAME ATTACHED TO BEING MUSLIM. - [sighs] - MIKE, YOU HAD THE OPPOSITE EXPERIENCE. - ABSOLUTELY. - COMPLETE OPPOSITE. - IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT SCARED ME BECAUSE I'VE NEVER BEEN TO IRAN. I WAS FIVE WEEKS OLD WHEN I CAME TO AMERICA. BUT THE STORIES THAT I HEARD GROWING UP-- MY PARENTS ARE JEWISH, AND THEY WERE BEING PERSECUTED BECAUSE OF THEIR RELIGION THEN. WHEN MY MOM WAS PREGNANT WITH ME, IN THE MIDDLE OF NIGHT, THEY'D BE CHANTING, "DEATH TO AMERICA," AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME, THEY'D HEAR CALL TO PRAYER. MY POOR MOM WAS PREGNANT WITH ME. SHE WOULD ROCK BACK AND FORTH CRYING. [muezzin vocalizing] CRYING. IT'S A PRO MUSLIM, VERY FANATICAL, VERY CRAZY COUNTRY THAT KICKED US OUT, THAT SAID, "NO, YOU'RE JEWISH; "YOU CANNOT BE A PART OF THIS COUNTRY ANYMORE. "YOU MUST HAND OVER WHAT YOU HAVE. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, WE'RE GONNA THROW YOU IN JAIL." SO YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW I WOULD FEEL BEING SUBMERGED IN THAT SAME-- - NO, I RESPECT THAT. - I DON'T RESPECT THAT. WOULD YOU GO INSIDE THE SIXTEENTH CHAPEL? - SISTINE. - SISTINE. - NOT SIXTEENTH. - WOULD YOU? THAT'S WHAT I SAID. WOULD YOU GO INSIDE? - COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. - SOUNDED LIKE YOU SAID THE SIXTEENTH CHAPEL. - I'D GO IN THE FIFTEEN CHAPEL. - SEVENTEENTH CHAPEL, ACTUALLY, IS... [laughter] - I UNDERSTOOD WHERE YOU WERE COMING FROM. - I APPRECIATE THAT. - ASA, YOU'VAE ALWAYS BEEN PASSIONATE ABOUT YOUR CULTURE. TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT MOMENT INSIDE THE MOSQUE WHEN YOU WERE TURNED AWAY AND TOLD TO GO TO THE BACK CORNER BECAUSE YOU'RE A WOMAN. - THAT WAS INTENSE. MADAM, CAN I GO? - ONLY FOR MEN. LADIES, BACKSIDE CORNER. - WHERE? IN THE BACK? REZA! [speaking Farsi] - RIDICULOUS. - I KNOW. - THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE. - I KNOW. - ASA IS 100% MUSLIM. AND HERE I AM, THIS GAY MAN, YET, I'M WALKING AROUND FREELY IN THE MOST SACRED MOSQUE. THE IRONY OF THAT WAS NOT LOST UPON ME. WASN'T THAT A REMINDER THAT IF YOU ACTUALLY LIVED IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE TREATED EQUALLY? - YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S SUCH A GOOD QUESTION, BECAUSE THERE'S PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD WITH MY RELIGION, CURRENTLY. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S FINE. I'M STILL GONNA NOT LOSE IDENTITY AND WHO I AM. THESE ARE ALL THINGS TO FIGHT FOR IN THE FUTURE. - WELL, I THINK THIS MAY BE THE FIRST REALITY SHOW THAT HAS SMUGGLED CAST MEMBERS TO THE BORDER OF THE AXIS OF EVIL. - IT'S NOT THE AXIS OF EVIL! - WHY DID YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAD TO MAKE THAT TRIP? - JUST INSTINCTIVELY AND INTUITIVELY, I HAVE TO DO IT. OBVIOUSLY HAVING MY MOM THERE WITH ME MADE IT 10,000 TIMES MORE INTENSE FOR ME. - OH, MY GOD. IT SAYS IRAN. - I HAVE BUTTERFLY. - YOU HAVE BUTTERFLIES, MOMMY? - YEAH. - WE LEFT AS POLITICAL REFUGEES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WAR. IF I WAS ABLE TO GO BACK TO IRAN AND BE NOTICED, I COULD BE TORTURED, THROWN IN JAIL, CERTAINLY ARRESTED. - WAS IT A DANGEROUS TRIP? WERE YOU SCARED? - IT WAS VERY DANGEROUS, BUT WEREN'T THAT SCARED BECAUSE WE WERE SO INTO IT. BUT THOSE SNIPER TOWER THINGS, THAT WAS NOT BULL[bleep]. - YOU CAN SEE THE GUARD TOWERS OF IRAN. - THEY HAVE SNIPERS UP THERE? - YES, THEY ARE WATCHING ALL THE TIME. - BASICALLY, WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN EYESIGHT OF THOSE SNIPERS, BECAUSE IF WE CAN SEE THEM, THEY CAN SEE US. - IF THEY CAN SEE YOU, THEY CAN SHOOT YOU. - THEY'RE NOT GONNA SHOOT YOU. - SOMEONE HAD JUST BEEN SHOT. - TWO WEEKS AGO, SOMEBODY HAD-- A SHEPHERD, AN ARMENIAN SHEPHERD, HAD GOTTEN SHOT TWO WEEKS BEFOREHAND, AND IT WAS THIS BIG THING. YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO INTO THIS AREA, WHICH IS THE BORDER ZONE, AND IF YOU DO, THEY CAN SHOOT YOU, AND THEY DO. - FOOLISHLY, I SWEAR TO GOD, I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA GO, THERE WAS GONNA BE A BORDER AND A GIFT SHOP AND A PARKING LOT. - I KNEW THERE WAS NO GIFT SHOP. - WE COULD PARK IN THE PARKING LOT, STAND ON, LIKE-- TAKE PICTURES-- - SOMEONE SELLING CHURROS. - YOU STILL BROUGHT THEM GIFTS. IT WAS CUTE. - MY HAND IS IN IRAN. IT WAS NOT LIKE THAT AT ALL. - GUYS, WHEN WE STAND ON TOP OF THAT HILL, EVERYTHING WE SEE IS GONNA BE IRAN. I FEEL DIFFERENT. I FEEL ALMOST EUPHORIC. THERE IT IS. ALL OF THIS IS IRAN. THIS IS SO MAGICAL TO ME. IT'S LIT UP BY THE SUN. IT'S LIKE A PAINTING. AND I WAS BORN THERE. IT'S LIKE NOTHING I'VE EVER DONE IN MY LIFE. IT JUST--IT'S AS IF, LIKE, I'VE HAD THIS RIVER INSIDE ME THAT'S BEEN RECYCLED ALL THE TIME, SAME WATER, BUT WHEN I WENT THERE, I WAS REFRESHED WITH JUST BRAND NEW INFORMATION. - HOW DID THE TRIP CHANGE YOUR IDENTITY AS PERSIANS? - THE CRAZIEST THING HAPPENED. WE WERE IN THE CAR, AND THE GUY SAID TO ME, HE GOES, "YOU GUYS"-- HE'S LIKE, "YOU'RE AMERICAN." WHY CAN'T WE GET RIGHT UP TO THE BORDER? - BECAUSE YOU ARE AMERICANS. [chuckles] AND IRANIANS DON'T LIKE AMERICANS. - ALL OF A SUDDEN, I WAS LIKE, "WHAT? I AM AN AMERICAN." OH, MY GOD, IT FELT SO GREAT, BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS BEEN LABELED AS, LIKE, PERSIAN-- - MY MOM WITH HER ACCENT, AND SHE'S LIKE, "I'M AMERICAN." IT'S, LIKE, SO WEIRD. - IT WAS SO AMAZING. - SO JUST CLARIFY FOR ME, WHO CAN GET INTO IRAN AND WHO CANNOT? - I WAS IN IRAN TWO YEARS AGO, AND I CAN'T GO BACK NOW BECAUSE I CHOSE TO DO THIS SHOW. - YOU CAN'T GO BACK BECAUSE YOU CHOSE TO DO THIS SHOW? - I CAN GO BACK, BUT BECAUSE I HAVE RELATIVES IN IRAN THAT HOLD VERY HIGH STATURE, I DON'T WANT TO BRING ANY KIND OF SHAME OR ANYTHING UPON THEM WHERE THEY LIVE. - LILLY, ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT GOING TO-- - I MEAN, I WAS INITIALLY WORRIED. MY GRANDMOTHER WAS ILL A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND MY FAMILY ACTUALLY ASKED ME NOT TO GO WITH THEM, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. BUT MY SISTER WENT, MY PARENTS WENT. THEY SAID EVERYBODY TALKED ABOUT THE SHOW. EVERYBODY KNEW ABOUT THE SHOW. YOU KNOW, IRAN IS NOT A DANGEROUS PLACE. AND AS A TELEVISION SHOW ABOUT IRANIANS, IT DOES MAKE ME A LITTLE BIT SAD WHEN IT'S KIND OF PORTRAYED TO BE A VERY HOSTILE, DANGEROUS PLACE, BECAUSE IT'S THAT KIND OF PROPOGANDA THAT MIGHT ONE DAY BE USED AS AN EXCUSE TO GO TO WAR WITH IRAN. - I HAVE TO THINK THAT REZA DISAGREES WITH THIS. - IF YOU CLICK-- GO ON YOUTUBE AND WATCH HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE GAY OR JEWISH OR ANYTHING ELSE ARE *** TO DEATH. IT REALLY IS UNBELIEVABLE TO ME THAT YOU THINK IRAN IS A SAFE PLACE. - ALL I'M SAYING IS, IRAN IS NOT AN EVIL PLACE. - I DON'T HAVE NEGATIVE FEELINGS ATTACHED TO IRAN. OUT OF THIS WHOLE GROUP, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, I'M THE MOST PROUD AND RESPECTFUL FOR BEING IRANIAN. - ABSOLUTELY. - WHEN I SAY I CAN'T GO BACK TO IRAN, I'M NOT SAYING IRANIANS ARE HORRIBLE. - THEY DON'T JUST STONE GAY PEOPLE TO DEATH. THEY ACTUALLY-- IF YOU ARE GAY, THEY WILL GIVE YOU A FREE SEX CHANGE TO BECOME A WOMAN. - WHAT? [laughter] WHAT? [laughter] - OH, MY GOD. - OH, MY GOD. ANDY. - COMING UP... - I'M GOING TO IRAN IN DAISY DUKES, AND I'LL COME BACK A WOMAN. [laughter] - ARE YOU SAYING THAT I WAS NOT PLANNED? - NO, YOU WERE NOT PLANNED. - IF YOU ARE GAY, THEY WILL GIVE YOU A FREE SEX CHANGE TO BECOME A WOMAN. I KNOW THAT THAT'S RIDICULOUS. - WHAT - [laughs] - WHAT? - OH, MY GOD. - OH, MY GOD. ANDY. - IT'S A MANDATORY, ENFORCED SEX CHANGE. - I'M NOT ADVOCATING. - IF YOU'RE GAY, YOU'RE JUST CONFUSED. YOU NEED A SURGERY, AND IT'S FOR FREE. - I'M NOT A POLITICAL PERSON. I'M NOT ADVOCATING... - CLEARLY. - THE REGIME OF IRAN. ALL I'M SAYING IS... - ANDY'S EYEBALLS POPPED OUT OF HIS HEAD. - IRAN IS NOT SITTING THERE WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO COME BACK SO THAT THEY CAN IMPRISON THEM AND THEY CAN STONE THEM TO DEATH AND EVERYTHING ELSE. - I'M GOING TO IRAN IN DAISY DUKES, AND I'LL COME BACK A WOMAN. [laughter] NEXT YEAR. - ON A LIGHTER NOTE, A LOT OF THINGS ARE CHANGING. WE LEFT A LONG TIME AGO. SANCTIONS ARE BEING LIFTED. - ABSOLUTELY. 35 YEARS HAVE GONE BY. - HOPEFULLY WE CAN ALL GO BACK WITH YOU SOME DAY SOON. - AND I CAN GET A SEX CHANGE FOR FREE. - YOU CAN. - HEY. OH, MY GOD. - WELL, YOU HAVE FAMILY THAT ARE STILL IN IRAN. - AND THEY LOVE IT. - AND YOU HADN'T SEEN SOME OF THEM FOR 30 YEARS, AND YOU WERE ABLE TO REUNITE. HOW INCREDIBLE TO BE WITH YOUR MOM FOR THAT REUNION AND TO EXPERIENCE THAT WITH HER. [people squealing] [both speaking Farsi] - IT'S A DREAM COME TRUE FOR ME. I MEAN, THIS IS MY COUSIN WHO, LAST TIME I SAW HER, WE WERE THIS LITTLE, AND NOW SHE HAS TWINS THAT ARE THAT AGE. IT WAS INCREDIBLE. IT WAS COMPLETELY INCREDIBLE. - MJ, WHAT WAS THAT REUNION LIKE FOR YOU? - SHE SAYS TWINS, AND I'M, LIKE, FREAKING OUT. HE CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD IN THIS ONE MOMENT WHERE HE SAW ME EYEBALLING ASA WITH A NEWBORN. - MERCEDES. - YES, DARLING. - DO YOU WANT A KID? - YEAH. I WANT, LIKE, TWO. - WHAT WERE YOU FEELING WHEN YOU HAD THAT MOMENT? - I FELT LIKE THIS REALLY VULNERABLE, BEAUTIFUL LITTLE CREATURE IS A GIRL WHO NEEDS TO BE NOURISHED AND, YOU KNOW, PROTECTED AND LOVED. AND I JUST... [chortles] IT'S SO STUPID. - IT'S NOT STUPID AT ALL. - IT'S NOT STUPID AT ALL. - ARE YOU CRAZY? IT WAS SUCH A REAL, RAW MOMENT THAT SHE JUST WAS VERY CANDID AND HONEST. AND I'VE KNOWN HER FOR 20-PLUS YEARS. IT WAS THE VERY FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I HAD EVER HEARD HER TALK ABOUT HAVING KIDS AND FAMILY. - I NEVER THOUGHT THAT IT WAS NOT GONNA BE A CHOICE. 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE A SIGNIFICANT OTHER AND I'M NOT GONNA BE MURPHY BROWN AND HAVING A BABY OUT OF WEDLOCK. I NEVER WANTED TO BE MARRIED AND HAVE CHILDREN AND LIVE THAT CONFORMIST, CONVENTIONAL LIFE. AND THEN, BOOM, I WAS SIDESWIPED. AND IT'S A-- - I THINK IT WAS ALWAYS THERE, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS IN YOUR LIFE THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT TO EVER EXPOSE THAT RAW NERVE. - MOST OF THE TIME WHEN WE'RE HANGING OUT, MJ'S, LIKE, THE LIFE OF THE PARTY. SHE'S FUN AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF. AND SHE REALLY WENT TO THIS CORE PLACE IN HER HEART, LIKE, DIRECTLY. - MJ, HAS THIS REALIZATION CHANGED THE WAY THAT YOU'RE FEELING ABOUT THE FUTURE? - YES, DEFINITELY. I WANT TO... [sighs] FIRST, YOU KNOW, COMES LOVE, THE RIGHT PERSON. SOMETHING THAT'S MEANT TO LAST FOREVER. I HOPE THAT IT HAPPENS. I THINK IT'S REALLY HARD. IT'S EVEN HARDER WHEN YOU'RE ON SHAHS OF SUNSET FOR SURE, BECAUSE I'M OUT DOING CRAZY THINGS. I DON'T THINK THAT THE AVERAGE GUY IS GONNA BE LIKE, "YEAH, HER, SHE WOULD BE PERFECT." YOU KNOW, SO... - BUT YOU'RE NOT THE AVERAGE GIRL. YOU DON'T NEED THE AVERAGE GUY. [bleep] THAT GUY. [laughter] - MJ, WE'VE LEARNED THAT PERSIAN MOMS ARE OFTENTIMES A BIT CRITICAL. AND SOMETIMES THEY RULE WITH AN IRON FIST. - CAN WE TALK ABOUT SOMETHING PLEASANT? - YES, WE CAN. YOU STARTED THIS SEASON WITH A REAL ATTEMPT TO MEND YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR MOM, VIDA. - BEFORE THERAPY, I COULD PROBABLY NEVER CONVINCE MY MOM TO SPEND LONG PERIODS OF TIME TOGETHER. - OKAY, YOU GO ON. WE SEE THE PROBLEM. AND WITH THE DOG IN FRONT OF YOU AND WITH THOSE SHOES, I PROMISE YOU YOU GONNA FALL. - WHAT DO YOU THINK, GRANDMA? YOU GONNA TAKE THAT ONE? - I'M NOT GRANDMA. I'M MOM. - I WANT TO HEAR FROM HER. I'VE NEVER HEARD FROM HER PERSONALLY. [laughter] SHE'S HERE TONIGHT. - YOUR WINE. - WONDERFUL. - LET'S BRING HER OUT. - YOU CAN STAY THERE. - HI, VIDA. - HELLO, HELLO, ANDY. HOW ARE YOU? - HELLO. SO NICE TO SEE YOU. - THANKS FOR HAVING ME. - COME ON IN. - IT SAYS REZA. - THAT'S OKAY. [laughter] - YOU WANT THIS, THE NAME? - YES, THANK YOU. - CAN WE GET HER A NAME CARD? - GET HER A FRESH PLATE. NO, I'M KIDDING. - OKAY, THANK YOU. LOTS OF DESSERTS. TODAY WAS THE FIRST DAY I DECIDED TO GO ON DIET, HONESTLY. - THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT? - THESE ARE NOT EXACTLY IN FRONT OF US, YOU KNOW? IT'S NOT EXACTLY IN FRONT OF ME, AND IT SHOULD BE. - OH, YOU WANT IT IN FRONT OF YOU? - NO, NO, I DON'T WANT IT. ACTUALLY, I AM NOT GONNA EAT FOOD. - IT'S JUST THE SHOW-- - IT'S JUST-- YOU DON'T HAVE TO EAT IT. - I KNOW, FOR THE SHOW, THEN IT SHOULD BE EXACTLY IN FRONT OF ME. [laughter] I MEAN, IT WAS NOT IN FRONT OF ME. SEE THE PLATE? IN FRONT. - THERE YOU GO. - SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS. - VERY GOOD. - I'M VIDA, OKAY. - "I'M VIDA," SHE SAYS. - SO VIDA, WELCOME. - THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NICE TO SEE YOU. - TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK OF THE SHOW. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE SHAHS OF SUNSET? - OH, I LIKE SOME PART OF IT. - YES. - AND I DISLIKE OTHER PART OF IT. - YES. WHAT PARTS DO YOU DISLIKE? - MERECEDES WAS GETTING TANNING SPRAY, AND SHE TOOK OFF HER BRA. AND THEN SHE HOLD HER *** WITH HER HANDS. - THIS MIGHT FEEL A LITTLE BIT CHILLY, JUST SO YOU KNOW. OKAY? OH, GOOD, THIS WILL COOL YOU OFF. - OKAY, LET'S DO IT. - ALL RIGHT. - [squeals] [laughter] - OKAY, LET'S JUST GET UNDERNEATH. PERFECT. IT'S A LITTLE COLD. - AND THEN REZA WAS STANDING IN FRONT OF HER... - YES. - AND LAUGHING AT HER. - [laughing] - IM' SORRY. NOT A PRETTY LAUGH EITHER. - NOT A PRETTY LAUGH? OH, OKAY. - AND I DEFINITELY DID NOT LIKE THAT. - VIDA, WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU WERE REZA'S MOM? WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE HIM? - DO YOU HAVE TO CALL EVERYONE A ***? EVERY WOMAN YOU CALL ***. - [laughing] - ALL THE TIME. THIS ***, THIS *** THAT. I MEAN, IT'S NOT NICE. I MEAN, DO YOU LIKE PEOPLE CALL YOU A NAME? I'M SURE YOU DON'T LIKE PEOPLE CALL YOU A NAME? - I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. - VIDA NEEDS TO HANG OUT WITH US MORE OFTEN. SHE KEEPS IT REAL. [laughter] - MJ, WHEN YOU RETURNED FROM TURKEY, YOU WENT TO THE SPA WITH YOUR MOM, AND YOU SHARED WITH HER THE REVELATION THAT YOU HAD ABOUT WANTING TO HAVE KIDS. - I TRIED TO, YES. - WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, MERCEDES? YOU ARE SAYING THAT I WAS-- - NO, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT I SAW SOMEBODY WITH CHILDREN, AND THAT MADE ME WANT TO HAVE CHILDREN, AND IT FREAKED ME OUT. ALL THESE YEARS, I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONE THAT DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE KIDS. BUT I REALLY THINK THAT ALL THESE YEARS IT'S BEEN VIDA THAT DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE ME. - SO YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE WAS REALLY TRYING TO TELL YOU, WHICH WAS THAT SHE WANTED TO HAVE KIDS AND THAT SHE WANTS YOU TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. - DON'T YOU THINK FIRST YOU HAVE TO BE MARRIED, FIRST YOU HAVE TO BE ENGAGED. - I THINK SHE WANTS THAT. - BUT YOU TOLD HER LAST YEAR THAT SHE'S NOT MARRIAGE MATERIAL. - YES, SHE'S NOT MARRIAGE MATERIAL. FIRST YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOURSELF READY FOR THAT. AND THEN... - WHAT KIND OF MOTHER DO YOU THINK SHE'LL BE? - MERCEDES? WHAT KIND OF MOTHER SHE'S GOING TO BE IF SHE HAS A CHILD? - YES. - WHEN SHE HAS A CHILD. - WHEN SHE HAS A-- WHEN SHE'S GONNA HAVE A CHILD? UH... - [scoffs] I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF MOM... - I MEAN, I REALLY DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, BECAUSE IT HAS NOT HAPPENED. - RIGHT. - BUT DON'T YOU THINK, LIKE, THE CHARACTERISTICS YOU SEE IN YOUR DAUGHTER, SHE WOULD BE A GREAT MOTHER? - SHE'S VERY NURTURING. SHE'S VERY LOVING. - SURE, SURE. WELL, I HOPE AND I WISH THAT SHE'S GONNA BE A GREAT MOTHER TO HER CHILD, SURE. - MJ EXPRESSED IN THE LAST EPISODE THAT MAYBE YOU DIDN'T EVER WANT TO HAVE KIDS. WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION TO THAT? - UM... NO, I HAVE IT. I MEAN, NO, I HAVE THE... CHILD. I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE I PLANNED. - ARE YOU SAYING THAT I WAS NOT PLANNED? - NO, I'M SAYING THAT-- NO, YOU WERE NOT PLANNED. YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE, THEY ARE A DIFFERENT KIND OF MARRIAGE. - WOW. - [sighs] - COMING UP... HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU BEEN 40? - I'LL BE 40 FOR THE FIRST OR SECOND TIME NEXT BIRTHDAY? [laughter] - IT SEEMS LIKE NO MATTER WHAT WE SAY TO EACH OTHER OR WHAT WE DO, IT GOES BACK TO SQUARE ONE. - MIKEY, YOU LOOK A LITTLE WEEPY OVER THERE. - VIDA? - YES. - YOU ALWAYS HAVE WARDROBE AND MAKEUP TIPS FOR MJ. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF HER LOOK TODAY? - I HAVE ALL IDEA FOR MJ, BUT SHE DOESN'T LISTEN TO ME. - OH, OKAY. - AND THIS OUTFIT SHE PURCHASED WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I SEE. - [laughs] - AND, UH... - IT'S A BEAUTIFUL COLOR ON YOU. - YEAH. - THIS IS OKAY. - SHE LOOKS GREAT! - WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER LADIES? HOW DO THEY LOOK? - THE OTHER LADIES, UH... STAND UP SO I CAN SEE. - OKAY. - [laughing] - YES ,THE DRESS IS VERY PRETTY, VERY ELEGANT. NICE, YES. I LIKE IT. - I PASSED THE TEST. - AND LILLY'S NECKLACE, I CAN SEE, VERY ATTRACTIVE. - THANK YOU. - YES. WHAT ABOUT ASA? - ASA-- ASA SO-SO. [laughter] - NOW I'M JOAN RIVERS. - YES, I LIKE IT. YOU'RE LIKE JOAN RIVERS. IT'S THE FASHION POLICE. - [chuckling] - I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE I PLANNED. - ARE YOU SAYING THAT I WAS NOT PLANNED? - NO, I'M SAYING THAT-- NO, YOU WERE NOT PLANNED. YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE, THERE ARE DIFFERENT KIND OF MARRIAGE. - WOW. - YOU KNOW, THERE ARE DIFFERENT KIND OF MARRIAGE. SOMETIME A COUPLE MARRY, THEY PLAN EVERYTHING. - [sighs] THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M HEARING THIS. SO WHEN YOU GOT PREGNANT WITH ME, DID YOU WANT TO, LIKE... - NO, I WANTED YOU. OF COURSE, I WANTED YOU. - I MEAN, YOU'RE ONE OF THE MOST UN-NURTURING MOTHERS THAT'S EVER WALKED THE PLANET, AND I THINK IT'S AMAZING TO ALL OF US. - NOW I AM THAT. YOU SEE, ANDY? - I'M JUST KEEPING IT REAL, JUST LIKE YOU KEEP IT REAL. - THIS IS THE CONCLUSION. - NO, YOU SAID-- - NOW I AM A BAD MOTHER. - I DIDN'T SAY THAT. - BECAUSE I-- - VIDA, YOU LOVE MJ VERY MUCH, RIGHT? - YES. - TELL ME SOMETHING YOU LOVE ABOUT HER. - SOMETHING I LOVE ABOUT HER. UM... SHE'S FAMILY-ORIENTED. - YES. - SHE, UM... - SHE'S SMART. - SHE'S SMART. SHE'S VERY NICE. SHE'S GOOD TO-- WITH THE FRIENDS. SHE LOVES OUR DOGS, PABLO AND JULIO. - VERY LOVING. - SHE LOVES THAT, YES. - VERY NICE. LONG LIST OF THINGS YOU LOVE ABOUT HER, AS IT TURNS OUT. I ONLY ASKED FOR ONE. AND THERE, VIDA, YOU CAN'T STOP IT. - VIDA. - BECAUSE SHE HAD SO MANY THINGS. - THANKS, MOM. - THANK YOU, ANDY. - THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. - THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ANDY, FOR HAVING ME. - GREAT TO SEE YOU. - NICE TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN. THANK YOU. - MWAH. - BYE-BYE. - OKAY. IT'S CLEAR THAT SHE LOVES YOU. - OH, ABSOLUTELY. SHE JUST DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO EXPRESS IT. - AND WHETHER SHE WAS PLANNED OR NOT PLANNED... - WANTED OR... - I MEAN... - THAT WAS A BOMBSHELL. I MEAN-- - I COULDN'T BELIEVE SHE COULD NOT SAY THAT HER DAUGHTER WOULD BE AN AMAZING MOTHER. LIKE, ANY MOTHER WOULD LOOK AT THEIR CHILD AND SAY THEY WOULD BE THE MOST INCREDIBLE MOTHER OR FATHER. - SHE SEEMS LIKE SHE'S VERY HARDENED HERSELF. LIKE SHE'S VERY TOUGH THROUGH SOME THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED TO HER. - BUT SHE DOESN'T NEED TO TAKE THAT OUT ON MJ. - WE'RE MISSING OUT ON SO MUCH AS A MOTHER-DAUGHTER RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE OF THESE BARRIERS. AND THAT IS A VERY PAINFUL THING FOR ME TO LIVE THROUGH. - THAT IS NOT A TYPICAL PERSIAN MOTHER-DAUGHTER RELATIONSHIP. WHEN SHE SAID THAT SHE THINKS SO, NOT EVEN CLOSE. - WOW. I WANT TO ASK, BECAUSE IT'S A POINT OF SOME DEBATE, HOW OLD YOU EACH ARE. HOW OLD ARE YOU? - 32. - HOW OLD ARE YOU? - 30. - 35. - 37. - MJ? - 40. - WHAT, 40? - 40. - HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU BEEN 40? - I'LL BE 40 FOR THE FIRST OR SECOND TIME NEXT BIRTHDAY. [laughter] - OKAY. - I LOVE YOU. - WOW, OKAY. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN CALLED THE WORLD'S OLDEST ADOLESCENTS. ISN'T PRESSING THE SNOOZE BUTTON ON ADULTHOOD... - WONDERFUL. - SORT OF WHAT THIS GROUP IS ALL ABOUT? [screaming] [laughter] - BEND OVER, ***! - MERC, MERC. - I'D RATHER BE THE OLDEST ADOLESCENT THAN THE YOUNGEST OLD ***. - I FEEL LIKE WE GET THE SHORT END OF THE STICK WITH THAT CRITIQUE. AND PEOPLE NEED TO REMEMBER WE'RE NOT MARRIED WITH CHILDREN. WE'RE CAREER-DRIVEN, WE'RE SUCCESSFUL, SO WE CAN DO WHATEVER THE EFF WE WANT. - AND WHEN WE HAVE MOMS LIKE HOMEGIRL, YOU NEED TO PARTY A LITTLE BIT FROM TIME TO TIME. - WELL, REZA AND ADAM AREN'T THE ONLY RELATIONSHIP GETTING SERIOUS IN THE GROUP. MIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOU AND JESSICA? - UM, THINGS ARE REALLY GOOD. SHE'S AMAZING. - NOTHING SAYS "I LOVE YOU" MORE THAN CONVERTING TO JUDAISM. - IN JUDAISM, A MAN WHO'S NOT MARRIED IS CONSIDERED HALF A MAN. SO THE WOMAN COMPLETES HIM. JESSICA NOW DEMONSTRATES PUBLICLY THAT YOU ARE NOW AT THE CENTER OF HER LIFE. - OH, I LIKE THAT. - THAT'S HUGE. - THAT'S HUGE. - HUGE. - HUGE. - HUGE. - HUGE. - SO A LOT OF VIEWERS, AND ME INCLUDED, ARE WONDERING, WHAT'S TAKING SO LONG? - I'M AFRAID. I'M AFRAID. - OH. - I'M REALLY AFRAID. I MEAN, THE REAL STORY IS THAT... IT'S SUCH A COMMITMENT. YOU'RE SPENDING THE REST OF YOUR LIFE WITH SOMEBODY. - WELL, LOOK HOW SHE'S COMMITTED TO YOU. - YEAH, BUT I DON'T WANT TO [bleep] IT UP, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M AFRAID OF. - EH... - WELL, YOU MIGHT [bleep] IT UP BY NOT DOING IT. - I'VE NEVER LOVED SOMEBODY AS MUCH AS I LOVE HER EVER IN MY LIFE. - YOU'RE SO SURE IN YOUR LOVE FOR HER. THEN THAT MAKES ME WONDER WHAT YOU'RE SCARED OF. - I'M TRYING TO BUY A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. - YOU'RE TURNING 35 NEXT MONTH. DON'T YOU THINK, LIKE, IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO... START THINKING ABOUT MOVING ON, HAVING CHILDREN? - YOU WANT TO GET MARRIED AND HAVE KIDS, LIKE, IMMEDIATELY. - NO, I DON'T. I ONLY WANT TO GET MARRIED AND HAVE KIDS IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE YOU'RE OLD, YOU'RE GETTING OLD. - WHAT THE [bleep]? YOU MAKE ME SEEM LIKE I'M [bleep]--I'M IN A WHEELCHAIR. OKAY, FIRST IT'S MARRIAGE, THEN IT'S, LIKE, BECOMING A DAD. IT'S ALL GONNA HAPPEN SO QUICKLY. SO I'M JUST BUYING A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. - WELL, YOU'RE ALSO A SELF-PROFESSED LADIES MAN. DOES THAT FACTOR INTO IT? ARE YOU READY TO HANG UP YOUR GLOVES? - YEAH, I'M DONE WITH OTHER WOMEN. - YOU ARE? - YEAH. - DID REZA'S PROPOSAL PUT THE PRESSURE ON YOU TO POP THE QUESTION? YOU HAD A LOOK ON YOUR FACE LIKE, OH, MY GOD. - [laughs] [people screaming] - UH, THE LOOK ON MY FACE WAS... WOW, MY FRIEND IS GETTING MARRIED. AND IT WAS, LIKE, AN OVERWHELMING JOY THAT WAS BROUGHT UPON ME. AND THAT'S THE LOOK IN MY EYES. I WAS LIKE, WOW. AND JESSICA LOOKED AT ME AND I LOOKED AT HER, AND WE HAD THAT SAME THOUGHT AT THE SAME TIME. - JESSICA IS AN AMAZING GIRL, ALWAYS. I'VE SAID THAT. AND SHE DESERVES A RING. - SHE DOES. - THAT'S WHAT I'VE ALWAYS SAID. - SHE'S GONNA GET A RING, SHE'S GONNA GET A WEDDING, SHE'S GONNA GET KIDS. SHE'S GONNA GET EVERYTHING SHE WANTS. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME. - WELL, I HAVE TO SAY, IT'S BEEN A REALLY DRAMATIC YEAR. Y'ALL'S ARE INTENSE. - INTENSE. - Y'ALL'S PERSIANS... ARE A LITTLE INTENSE. - IT'S A WHOLE OTHER LEVEL, RIGHT? - WE GO HARD. WE GO HARD. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE LOVE EACH OTHER SO MUCH. AND EVEN IF IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT, WE REALLY HAVE EACH OTHER'S BACK. - IF SHE CALLED ME TOMORROW, SHE CALLED ME, HE CALLED ME, EITHER ONE OF THEM, AND SAID DO THIS FOR MY BROTHER, DO THIS FOR MY MOTHER, DO THIS FOR MY SISTER... - RIGHT. - I WOULD NEVER, EVER SAY NO TO ANYONE OF THEM. - AND WE DON'T - I AGREE. - [sniffling] - MIKEY, WHY ARE YOU-- YOU LOOK A LITTLE WEEPY OVER THERE. - IT'S SAD, BECAUSE I'VE LOST ONE OF MY GOOD FRIENDS, I FEEL. - I DON'T THINK YOU'VE LOST HIM. I THINK YOU GUYS ARE JUST IN A PLACE. - IT'S BEEN ALMOST, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG. WE DON'T EVEN TALK. - MIKE, SONIA FROM WILLAMETTE SAYS, "WHAT DO YOU MISS ABOUT YOUR FRIENDSHIP WITH REZA?" - BEING IN THE WORLD THAT WE'RE IN ON THE SHOW, WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO BE YOUR FRIEND, OR THEY GRAVITATE TOWARDS YOU, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT REASON THEY HAVE FOR COMING AROUND. SO IT'S HARD TO FIND A REAL FRIEND THAT YOU CAN TALK TO AND CONFIDE IN. I MEAN, WHEN I WENT RING SHOPPING FOR JESSICA, THERE'S NO ONE ELSE THAT I WOULD-- NOT EVEN MY OWN BROTHERS. I WOULD HAVE RATHER HAD REZA THERE TO GIVE ME HIS OPINION. THAT'S THE TYPE OF FRIENDSHIP WE HAVE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S CULTIVATED OVER TIME THAT GROWS INTO THIS BEAUTIFUL THING YOU CALL FRIENDSHIP. RIGHT? A REAL FRIENDSHIP. SO IT'S HARD. AND I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING, THAT'S I WAS... THE FEW EPISODES WHERE YOU SAW ME DRUNK, IT WAS LIKE, I WAS SO SAD, IT WAS LIKE I WAS MOURNING THE DEATH OF OUR FRIENDSHIP. AND THE ONLY WAY I COULD EVEN DEAL WITH IT WAS TO DRINK. - EXCUSE ME. - NO, I DON'T WANT TO [bleep] SEE HIM. CAN I GET A *** RED BULL, PLEASE? IMMEDIATELY, THANK YOU. YOU HAVE MY DRINK. LET ME HAVE MY DRINK. AH! [laughing] BYE, REZA. BYE. - REZA, HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL? - I-I DON'T LOVE MIKE ANY LESS. I MIGHT NOT LIKE HIM AS MUCH RIGHT NOW, BUT I DON'T LOVE HIM ANY LESS. I ACTUALLY SPOKE TO HIS MOM, BECAUSE ME AND HIM WERE IN SUCH A DARK PLACE, I COULDN'T TALK TO HIM. AND, LIKE, I EXPLAINED MYSELF TO HER, AND IT WAS ALMOST LIKE EXPLAINING IT TO HIM. LIKE, I FELT GOOD AFTER I GOT OFF THE PHONE BECAUSE I HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY WITH HER TO GET MY POINT ACROSS, AND I KNEW THAT SHE UNDERSTOOD WHAT I WAS SAYING AT A TIME WHEN HE COULDN'T HEAR ME. AND IT WAS JUST REALLY SAD, AND IT'S STILL SAD. AND I STILL MISS HIM. AND I STILL LOVE HIM. AND I WISH WE COULD REWIND IT TO GO BACK TO BEFORE THEN, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE NO MATTER WHAT WE SAY TO EACH OTHER OR WHAT WE DO, IT GOES BACK TO SQUARE ONE EVERY TIME. [sniffles] - COMING UP... - I WENT ABOUT IT WRONG, SO I'M SORRY. - REZA, DO YOU ACCEPT HIS APOLOGY? - IT SEEMS LIKE NO MATTER WHAT WE SAY TO EACH OTHER OR WHAT WE DO, IT GOES BACK TO SQUARE ONE EVERY TIME. - I WANT TO-- I WANT TO APOLOGIZE, BECAUSE LOOKING BACK, I'M SORRY FOR NOT GIVING YOU A CHANCE TO REALLY EXPLAIN YOURSELF. I WENT ABOUT IT WRONG, AND I ALLOWED MYSELF TO GET DEEPER INTO THIS SITUATION. SO I'M SORRY. - REZA, DO YOU ACCEPT HIS APOLOGY? - ABSOLUTELY. - I'M SORRY. I LOVE YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. - I LOVE YOU TOO. - CAN YOU GUYS HUG IT OUT? - YAY. [applause] - YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU, DUDE. - [shuddering] all: SALAMATI. - [speaking indistinctly] - [sobbing] - WILL THERE BE A SHABBAT DINNER IN YOUR FUTURE? - OF COURSE, DUDE. THIS... TONIGHT. - YOU GUYS ARE LIKE BROTHERS. - YEAH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT CANNOT BE REPLICATED. IT'S--IT'S-- IT'S VERY DEEP. SO I THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. THAT'S PART OF A REAL FRIENDSHIP, THOUGH. YOU CAN PICK UP WHERE YOU LEFT OFF WHEN YOU LOVE EACH OTHER AND HATE EACH OTHER AND FIGHT AND BICKER. - I FIND THE FIGHTING PART REALLY DIFFICULT TO HANDLE. - BUT REAL FRIENDS DO THAT. - DON'T LAUGH. - [laughing] 'CAUSE THAT'S THE PART THAT YOU'RE-- THAT'S THE PART YOU CAN'T CONNECT WITH. WE SAY BAD THINGS. I MAKE MISTAKES. I HURT MY FRIENDS. I CAN BE OFFENSIVE AT TIMES. BUT IN THE END, I DON'T LOVE HIM ANY LESS. THAT'S WHAT I WANT FROM YOU. TO BE A PART OF THIS. I JUST WANT YOU TO WANT US THE WAY WE WANTED YOU. - I WANT THAT. I WANT YOU GUYS THAT MUCH. AND I WANT TO BE A PART OF THE GROUP. - WE JUST WANT YOU TO OPEN UP TO US, YOU KNOW, LIKE, IN A REAL WAY. - I WOULD LOVE TO OPEN UP TO YOU GUYS. - WE WANT TO BE THERE FOR THE "HEY, GIRL, HEYS" AND THE FASHION SHOWS AND YOUR PARTIES, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO BE THERE WHEN, LIKE, THE MUNDANE IS HAPPENING, WHEN I'M HAVING A PROBLEM. I WANT TO KNOW THAT I CAN CALL YOU AND I CAN COUNT ON YOU AND YOU'RE GONNA BE THERE FOR ME. - YOU CAN COUNT ON ME ANYTIME. I LOVE YOU ALL. - LILLY, DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU CAME AWAY FROM THIS EVENING UNDERSTANDING THESE GUYS A LITTLE BETTER AND THEN YOU A LITTLE BIT? - I THINK SO. I THINK, IF ANYTHING, JUST, LIKE, SEEING THEM JUST MELTS MY HEART, AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN HAVE REAL FRIENDSHIPS. - VERY NICE. VERY NICE. IN ONE WAY, I'M TOTALLY CONFUSED BY YOU GUYS, AND IN THE OTHER WAY, I TOTALLY GET IT-- BECAUSE I SEE THAT YOU HAVE SUCH A DEEP HISTORY OF LOVE AND FRIENDSHIP-- THAT YOU REALLY DO FIGHT LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE. [laughter] BUT IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE'RE ENDING THIS EVENING IN, I THINK, A REALLY HAPPY PLACE. GG AND MJ, YOU LOVE EACH OTHER. - OF COURSE. - OF COURSE WE DO. - AND I'M ESPECIALLY HAPPY TO SEE THESE TWO BROTHERS BACK... - WE ALL ARE. - YEAH, THAT WAS A BIG ONE. - YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY NICE. - HONESTLY, REGARDLESS OF HOW DARK AND UGLY IT GETS, IF THE LOVE IS THERE, IT CAN ALWAYS COME BACK. I KNOW THAT I WILL FOREVER LOVE ALL OF THEM REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS, FROM THE TIME WE GET UP FROM THIS TABLE UNTIL THE DAY I LAY MY HEAD DOWN FOR THE LAST TIME, I WILL LOVE ALL OF THEM FOREVER. - MM. LOVE YOU. - THAT'S SO NICE. I AM ABSOLUTELY EMOTIONALLY DRAINED... [laughter] AND STUFFED. - YES. - OH, MY GOD. - THROUGH THE LONGEST MEAL IN HISTORY. SO SALAMATI. all: SALAMATI! - AND THE BEST TO ALL OF YOU. all: CHEERS. - THANK YOU FOR A GREAT SEASON. LOVE, LOVE, LOVE. all: CHEERS. [make smooching noises] - FOR MORE SHAHS OF SUNSET, GO TO BRAVOTV.COM.