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Well, when I got interested in
environmental taxes, one of the things that was
particularly interesting to me and my colleague
Zite Hutton, who started the work with me,
was incentives and in the United States we use
a lot of tax incentives, it’s fairly common.
Your real estate tax deduction, your mortgage
tax deduction, those are tax incentives that are
kind of embedded in our system.
We were curious about how the tax system
can be used to create incentives for people to do
the right thing for the environment and through
the Commerce Clearing House tax service,
which we subscribe to, we started looking up
what was going on at the state level.
And across the country, various sates have done
interesting things with environmental tax credits
that, you know, we looked at and I think it’s
important to get some of those things
into the public eye, to the people that make
policy decisions, to the people that are talking
about environmental taxation, and there is an
international conversation about
environmental taxation that is going on.
Some of the credits are particularly interesting
because they’re so unique and they’re so
targeted at a particular environmental issue
and California, for example, doesn't have
this tax credit anymore, but for a while they
were giving corporations a small tax credit
if they restored the streams for salmon and
steelhead habit and, you know, to me
that’s an interesting way to encourage
environmental behavior.
And I like, it’s kind of the carrot or the stick,
and I like the idea of a carrot.
The stick is the polluter pays principle,
and there’s a lot of conversation, most of the
conversation in the environmental tax area
is on the stick, the idea that polluters should pay
and it’s not that I don’t believe that,
I do, I believe polluters should pay for
what they’re doing, but I also believe that
sometimes there’s behavioral differences
in how people respond to incentives.
So it’s kind of the twist on how people might
behave if they see that there’s an incentive.
Most of the incentives aren’t large enough,
necessarily, to change behavior and
a really good example is the federal tax credit
for purchasing a hybrid car.
Really that incentive isn’t large enough
to make a difference in the price, and yet,
I think it’s something that can make a difference
in somebody’s decision making process,
and so they might be more willing
to make that choice when they’re thinking
about buying a new vehicle.
So, the reason that the state level environmental
tax policy became more interesting to us,
is because there was a lot more creativity
across the country on what people were doing.
In management accounting, we have this
mantra; my interpretation or my words about
the mantra are: ‘You get what you measure,’
or ‘What gets measured gets done.’
And I think it’s really important how you
create incentives within an organization and,
from the environmental perspective, if you want
to have a strategy that includes sustainability,
you have to have some measures,
you have to be able to measure performance,
and you have to know, you have to kind of
guess, how people are going to behave
around that, and there’s always surprises
because people will behave in ways that you
wouldn’t necessarily expect or think about
ahead of time when you create a measurement
system or a performance metric.