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The Summary
The Zeitgeist Movement
My name is Peter Joseph, I am currently the de facto founder
of an organization called The Zeitgeist Movement
which is seeking to alter the current cultural climate if you will
into something that can be considered actually sustainable
for not just one nation or class but all the worlds people.
The Zeitgeist Movement
We live in a paradigm now where we have society
operating on the idea that we can grow infinitely
therefore we keep buying and consuming, regardless of the resources we have.
This creates a collision course with nature
which the world is figuring out right about now, on many levels
that the Earth is essentially a closed system.
It took billions of years to create the minerals we have
and took many many hundreds of millions of years
to create the fossil fuels which govern everything we have.
And amazingly enough we have created this system
where we are using all of our resources to create the economic growth required
to sustain employment and everything else and simultaneously
we're diminishing our resources at a near exponential rate it seems
as population continues to grow and no one seems to understand
that it's an absolute clash, and that eventually
we're gonna run out of pivotal resources and eventually you're gonna see things
I don't know, like the human population start to dwindle down.
The Venus Project
My name is Jacque Fresco and I'm going to present the concept of
The Venus Project
If you don't want war, if you don't want poverty, hunger, unemployment...
You have to declare all the Earth's resources
as the common heritage of all the world's people.
All the artificial boundaries have to be removed
so that people can travel anywhere.
It has to be a global society.
There are many people that feel: "well let's develop each country."
You can't do that because if the Russians do experiments
with nuclear materials and the Chinese
that air goes all over the world.
So it's very hard to work independently.
So I would say, if you want these things
you have to change the way your society operates.
We believe, here at the Venus Project, we are not civilized yet.
As long as you have armies, navies, prisons, police we are not civilized.
No nation is civilized. Being civilized is an ongoing process.
The more we learn, the more we know about the environment and human relations,
the more we are able to deal with the problems.
If we fail to do that we won't be able to solve problems.
If we go with traditional values we won't be able to solve problems.
All of these pump primers do not work.
There's always been wars, the wars have continued to get worse
even though the universities today
have the most sophisticated equipment in the science labs
the architectural labs, all the labs and the wars are getting worse.
The explosions are getting worse.
Since the atom bomb, the explosive power is much worse.
So there's something definitely wrong with all cultures.
When I say wrong I mean that the system doesn't work.
Now, to talk about a system that does work
that is a little foreign to our habits of thought
so I'm going to try to explain how we make decisions:
actually we don't make decisions, we arrive at them.
The only way a real society can operate, period
is in a steady state economy
meaning you don't have the mechanism
of constantly needing to do anything
other than being sustainable in your everyday living
and having society recognize the attributes of sustainability which are required.
That's the value system orientation needed to create a stable society
as a brief extension of this we live in a materialistic culture.
We live in a culture that's predicated on inferiority
and people thinking that they need more and more and more
because of many reasons, because of someone else having more
status oriented issues and so on and so forth
and that fuels into this mechanism of the growth economy
of getting more and more holidays
people give each-other gifts, these are inventions for economics.
As long as we use money and the bottom-line is profit
then those who control the money are able to
make the laws in their favor
and that means that they really don't care about people
they care about wealth, property and power
when that is the main incentive.
So, when we use a monetary system
there is no justice within this system
there is no making this system equitable
what we need is an entirely
new system that we call a
Resource Based Economy
In regard to social operation and how to create a new society
or better yet, just to say to create any society
that would be sustainable and efficient
there's really an empirical train of thought
if you will, of how to do that.
First of all you have to think about what the human being actually needs.
We require resources at a bare minimum.
We require food, water, etcetera as we all know.
Therefore resources become the most paramount subject.
Resources in fact should be the foundation of any economic structure.
So what do you do if you consider that
the Earth is a closed finite system?
First thing you have to do is do a survey
of the Earth's resources and the carrying capacity of the environment.
If you produce a population far in excess
of the carrying capacity of the environment
you're going to have trouble, you're going to have malnutrition
and all the problems that go with it
so first we have to find out what can each successive environment carry.
And maintain a population in accordance with the carrying capacity of the Earth.
not what I like or somebody else likes or some politician's notions.
It has to be based upon the carrying capacity of the Earth.
To organize a structure based on the intelligent management of the Earth's resources
You start from essentially the base level of "where is everything?"
So you look at the planet, you say:
"OK, we see we have iron ore here."
"We have petroleum deposits here."
If we were using petroleum at that point in time
in the future hopefully we will not be because it's damaging.
We have places for great wind energy here.
You get the point.
We can assess the entire environment
and what we currently use based on the technological facilities of that point.
And we start to create a structure of analysis, maintenance, and management
and basically monitor and understand what we have.
Then we could design the parameters for the new society.
Without a survey we couldn't do that.
Survey means physical disabilities, all the known diseases
that tells us how many hospitals we have to build.
Of course the survey would include available materials.
Otherwise if you just sit down turn out a hospital or turn out a social plan
not based on what you have
not based on what Fresco believes
only statistical evidence.
The end of "what's your opinion? What's your opinion?"
should have been gone in 1927.
Then you move to the next level: How do we utilize resources
in the most efficient way?
Technology is the methodology to harness
any type of resources we have.
Technology is the growing intellectual field that allows us
to know how to manipulate our environment
for our betterment and to be more sustainable, hopefully.
So what we do is we utilize our technical information
and then we analyze the planetary resources.
Then we build from the ground up an entire infrastructure
not based on the whims of any type of ideology
capitalist, socialist, fascist, or whatever, what have you, communist.
You do it based explicitly on the most efficient means to do it.
With the most peak efficiency possible.
Based on the technology available at the time.
The intellectual resource of the time.
You have peak efficiency and sustainability as your goal.
You just simply weigh all parameters
when you analyze anything, and then you're gonna build a society
that is essentially, for a lack of a better expression, perfect.
It's not perfect at all because things are gonna constantly change
but it's the best you can do at that point in time
which I think would be a variance of perfection.
A Resource Based Economy does not use money, barter or any form of servitude.
It just makes goods and services available to everybody through intelligent use of technology.
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