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ANTI--GOVERNMENT RUSE.
THIS COULD BE AN ATTEMPT TO
INTIMIDATE THE OPPOSITION.
A NEW ROUND OF STREET
DEMONSTRATIONS EXPECTED NEXT
MONTH.
>>> AFTER ALL THE POLITICAL
BICKERING OVER WHETHER TO HOLD
THE 9-11 TERROR TRIALS IN NEW
YORK CITY, IT MAY BOIL DOWN TO
ONE THING.
MONEY.
MAYOR BLOOMBERG DID A 180 ON HIS
DECISION WHEN HE REALIZED IT
COULD COST THE CITY A BILLION
DOLLARS IN SECURITY FEES.
WHAT DOES IT COST TO SECURE A
AND I IN THAT SITUATION?
OUR NEXT GUEST WAS RESPONSIBLE
FOR PLANNING FOR THAT DO YOU
REMEMBER THE RUDY GUILIANI
ADMINISTRATION.
LET'S BRING IN THE FORMER NEW
YORK POLICE DETECTIVE. Thomas Ruskin of CMP Group
GREAT TO SEE YOU.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON.
>> IF IT'S TRUE THAT THE WHITE
HOUSE IS RETREATING, WHY?
IS IT MONEY?
IS IT RISK?
IS IT SORT OF NIGHTMAREISH
INCONVENIENCE OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE
IN MANHATTAN?
IS IT THAT IT NEVER MADE SENSE?
>> I THINK IT'S ALL OF THEM.
I THINK YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE
HEAD WITH ALL FOUR REASONS.
I THINK THE SECURITY NIGHTMARE
TO LOWER MANHATTAN AND THE FACT
THAT COMMUNITY GROUPS AND OTHER
PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES AND THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE ALL SAID,
WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE AND WHAT
IS THIS GOING TO DO TO OUR CITY?
COMMISSIONER KELLY THIS WEEK
CAME OUT AND SAID IT WOULD RAISE
THE TERROR ALERT IN MANHATTAN
AND NEW YORK CITY ONE DEGREE UP,
JUST TO HAVE T TERROR TRIALS
HERE.
NOT TO MENTION THE LOGCAL
PROBLEMS IT WOULD CAUSE.
>> YEAH.
SENATOR FEINSTEIN, WHO CHAIRS
THE INTEL COMMITTEE IN THE U.S.
SENATE, SENT A LETTER TO THE
PRESIDENT URGING HIM TO MOVE IT
OUT OF LOWER MANHATTAN.
AND HER ARGUMENT WAS THAT THE
CHRISTMAS DAY PLOT IS EVIDENCE
OF A CONTINUING EFFORT BY
TERRORISTS TO STRIKE THE UNITED
STATES.
THEN SHE ARGUED THIS, LET'S PUT
IT UP ON THE SCREEN.
NEW YORK CITY HAS BEEN A HIGH
PRIORITY TARGET SINCE AT LEAST
THE FIRST WORLD TRADE CENTER
BOMBING IN 1993.
THE TRIAL OF THE MOST
SIGNIFICANT TERRORIST IN CUSTODY
WOULD ADD TO THAT THREAT.
I TAKE IT FROM YOUR COMMENTS YOU
AGREE WITH THAT, BUT WHAT WOULD
IT TAKE TO SECURE IT?
>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HUNDREDS
OF POLICE OFFICERS, UNIFORMED
AND UNDERCOVER OFFICERS, NOT TO
MENTION EMERGENCY SERVICE
OFFICERS TAKING UP POINTS AROUND
THE COURTHOUSE AND AROUND LOWER
MANHATTAN.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
LOGICCAL PROBLEMS OF MOVING THE
SUSPECTS TO THE WHITE COURTHOUSD
TO WHERE THEY WERE HELD EVERY
DAY.
THE NIGHTMARES WITH TRAFFIC, AS
WELL AS MOBILIZING THE F.B.I.
AND THE NEW YORK CITY POLICE
DEPARTMENT, COMMAND CENTERS TO
FOLLOW UP ON ANY LEADS ON
TERRORISM EVERY SINGLE DAY AND
SENT TO THE TASK FORCE OUT EVERY
SINGLE DAY ON LEADS THAT MAY BE
DEVELOPED.
>> JUST THE POLICE CHECKPOINTS
AND THE VEHICLE SEARCHES AND SO
FORTH WOULD RENDER LOWER
MANHATTAN ESSENTIALLY A FORTRESS
AND THE DAMAGE TO RETAIL AND
OTHER BUSINESSES THERE WOULD BE
INCALCULATABLE.
TO WHAT EXTENT IS AN ALTERNATIVE
SITE -- LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE,
A RURAL AREA OR REMOTE REGION,
HOW MUCH IS THAT EASIER TO
PROTECT?
>> WELL, A MILITARY BASE --
LISTEN, I PERSONALLY DON'T FEEL
IT SHOULD BE ANYTHING OTHER THAN
A MILITARY TRIAL, BUT IF YOU'RE
GOING TO TRY HIM IN A REGULAR
COURT UNDER REGULAR RULES IN THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, YOU
HAVE THE SAME NIGHTMARE NO
MATTER WHERE YOU PUT THEM.
IF YOU PUT THEM ON A MILITARY
BASE OR IN A SECURE AREA
ALREADY, YOU MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT
OF SECURITY YOU HAVE TO PLAN FOR
AND THE LOGCAL PROBLEMS ON A
DAY-TO-DAY PROBLEMS WITH PICE
AND MILITARY.
>> YOU MAY REMEMBER WHEN THE
ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MADE IN
NOVEMBER BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
ERIC HOLDER.
HE STRESSED THE IMPORTANCE OF
SYMBOLISM OF TRYING KHALID
SHAIKH MOHAMMED NEAR THE SITE OF
HIS HEINOUS DEEDS.
RISKING THE SAFETY OF MORE
AMERICAN LIVES, IS IT NOT, IS A
PRETTY LARGE PRICE TO PAY FOR
SYMBOLISM?
>> I THINK THAT THE PRICE OF
SYMBOLISM TO THE CITY OF NEW
YORK ALONE, WE'RE NOT EVEN
INCLUDING THE FEDERAL BILL,
WOULD BE PROBABLY UPWARDS OF A
BILLION DOLLARS.
THAT'S WHAT THE MAYOR HAS LOOKED
AT.
NOT TO MENTION AS WE TALKED
ABOUT, ALL THE PROBLEMS AND
LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARES IT WOULD
CAUSE THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY AND
IT WOULD PUT THE CROSS HAIRS ON
THE CITY OF NEW YORK FOR SOME
NUT, SOME TERRORIST NUT TO DO
SOMETHING ELSE ANYWHERE ELSE IN
THE CITY WHILE THE TRIAL IS
GOING ON, JUST TO EMPHASIZE
THEIR CAUSE.
>> THANKS VERY MUCH FOR BEING
WITH US.