Richard Dawkins - The magic of reality

gr professor richard dawkins is with us he has a new book out the british pathologist evolutionary biologist in offer uh... the uh... the work that he's probably the most famous for is a selfish gene but he's got a new book out called the magic of reality how we know what's really true either via my last week on television if you'd like to see that they'll extended interview he got to go to uh... conversations with great minds dot com professor dawkins welcome great to have you with us on the radio program here bob your your book the magic of reality how we know what's really true one of the things that you mention the last week a week before when we spoke was the sense of of you use the word spirituality as i recall or maybe maybe i did anything up andrea and and also seen that with science in a way that this see it's it from religion can you verify that a little bit because i think that that's a piece of you know the magic of reality is about we don't want to have anything to do with anything supernatural and for the word spiritual hit a bad word of the project a supernatural it's a good word suggest something poetic something wonderful to be wonderful which of course five people and if you could look at the university but the world look at life through the eyes of high-end then he did wonderful he poetic habitat not supernatural x macro the natural is wonderful the magic of reality and then for many people who don't understand it science they don't understand the natural it may seem supernatural that ryder truck or anything supernatural justin admission of defeat at the constitution part-time we have to preheated natural paper didn't yet understand it we need to work a bit harder great okay so let's get into the chapters for the first chapter book profitably was uh... who was the first person who was if as his second chapter eleven uh... beat him uh... it have applied the paradox alarm panetta want the first person to cripple already gradual amsterdam uh... about it because helpfulness happy and and we call up and picked up the previous species tomo director but didn't have a wall of the moment went home early director parents gave rise to homeopathy and child it was all much to gradual for that and spending those always literally back to the assembly of d_n_a_ because all the way back via by a team to look like monkeys seemed to like danny murphy would look like shrewd didn't look like it uh... amber problematic moment in the book where i help you to imagine your hundred and eighty-five million great-grandfather and you can edit the page and there isn't it and uh... uh... i'm curious your thoughts on why in the united kingdom there is any as the united kingdom at not just because of your country but uh... it most of the developed world there's a broad acceptance of science as you know pretty solid stuff in here in the united states the fact that science is always is always on-going process of inquiry and in very rarely a science settled there's always some uh... element of inquiry to it the that the heart of right and the religious right this country has seized upon that to say things like well evolution is not it's still it still open question global warming is still open plan are still questions you know by tobacco causes system cancers still open here and united states is reformers and could pick up in the world a better pre-test uh... find good on in this country but also united state paradoxically houses maker does over twenty-five anti intellectual effin it is a quite astounding fact that more than forty percent of the american people believe the world univer in grafton ten thousand years old a quite astonishing era phnom penh dot side by friday with some of the greatest artists in the world no that the world is four and a half million years old and the university of nearly fourteen billion years old i'm interests you take on if you've had an opportunity to review the science and and and perhaps not i think it's just the last week or so that they've uh... come out and said that the universe is not only expanding but it's expanding rap you know with increasing speeding apparently there is some sort of dark matter that has greater power then gravity uh... tree when you'd have to update it just about that time a biologist okay and what i would think would be purely an and what-have-you but you don't go to show how exciting times his apart moving frances anticrime is prepared to change its mind when that new evidence yes and this this is one of the surgery things about science on in the book for the in the book you address the question one chapter what a bad thing seventy or otherwise good things happen to people the whether quoted just really why do things happen yeah and in a particular we've been talking about bad things are looking to cut but that people dude single them out bear the full of where a tenth of not productive that people can come out all to be the case the bad thing happened about people and good thing happen to good people because the universe doesn't care who is back in who's put it in different off fifteen just happen and bad things they happen to bad people or to good people what do we teach our children about the world of and why but we should be judged or from the truth about the world which is and time to go with the best approximation to the truth we have and prompted improving it going to change will nuclear memo in the future what we should not teach our children about the world mythologies traditional beliefs that have no basis in fact so-called revelation that had even less basis in fact we should teach children to affidavit of the many believe back which is supported by evidence do you use issue we got teacher children a santa claus well that's a rather trivial issue i don't worry too much about that um... life is based on the whole it might be better not to unprotected children should be grateful to the people who really do get them that present problem company people being sure um... uh... but i don't feel very strongly about that and i don't want to go to the sticker high actually feel strongly about it because i remember when i was five or six i don't remember how old i was but i remember when i learned that there wasn't and it was a crushing experienced and political pandering what problem we had a good day today and understandably been you've got a lot about ten o'clock definite still go on believing in god even her happen even bigger duping yeah server specific anthropomorphic bronze age god within keeps a list and is willing to have amnesia if u that before the ritual and i think you can contact i thought the uh... and in many ways c_i_a_ uh... although the does uh... you know it's a as some there've been some attempts to reinvent him or her animal in positive ways i suppose that but um... edges so hidden in the minute we have left what what inured it we're talking with professor richard dawkins his new book is the magic of reality how weak know what's really true what in your mind is the major carry-on message of the book but the truth is wonderful approved is magical in the best and afterward and but we find out the truth by the back at the time which up a method to looking at the evidence uh... evaluating critically and and we do that methodically overtime in it grows and adapts i mean you have sciences in century is very different than science that is that right time to learn from it mistakenly approximating ever protected the troops this is the uh... the classic uh... we stand on on the shoulders of journalism job here yeah armageddon is right was as good yes and and uh... and then paraphrase later bye actually member people including jefferson certeza eric said the professor richard dawkins richard dawkins dotnet is his website his new book the magic of reality how we know what's really true sir thank you for dropping by thank you very much spirited totally and very uh... fasting for the wonderful missus this is the kind of both that if you want to initiatives to the extraordinary magic of science