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ON THIS
VOTE THE YEAS ARE 308, THE NAYS
ARE 101.
THREE ANSWERING PRESENT.
AND THE JOURNAL STANDS APPROVED.
FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE
GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA RISE?
MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY TO
ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT I BE
3697.
REMOVED AS A CO-SPONSOR ON H.R.
IS
THERE OBJECTION?
WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.
FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE
GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI RISE?
MR. SPEAKER, I ASK
UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO HAVE MY
CO-SPONSOR FROM
H.R. 3359.
IS
THERE OBJECTION?
WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.
FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE
GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS RISE?
MR. SPEAKER, ON
H.RES. 591, ROLL CALL VOTE 119,
I WAS DETAINED ON OFFICIAL
BUSINESS AND I WOULD LIKE TO
INDICATE THAT I WOULD HAVE VOTED
NO ON H.RES. 591, THE RULE TO
H.R. 5.
I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT IT
BE PLACED APPROPRIATELY IN THE
RECORD.
WITHOUT
OBJECTION, IT WILL SO BE NOTED.
--
JACKSON SCRAX JACKSON THANK YOU
THANK YOU.
FOR
WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN
FROM MICHIGAN RISE?
MR. SPEAKER, I WOULD ASK
UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL
MEMBERS MAY HAVE FIVE
LEGISLATIVE DAYS TO REVISE AND
EXTEND THEIR REMARKS AND -- ON
THE LEGISLATION AND TO INSERT
ON H.R. 5.
IS
THERE OBJECTION?
WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN.
MR. SPEAKER, I WOULD -- WE
ARE NOW -- I WOULD ASK FOR
ORDER.
THE
GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN.
THE
CHAIR DECLARES THE HOUSE IN THE
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ON THE
STATE OF THE UNION FOR THE
CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 5.
THE CHAIR APPOINTS THE GENTLEMAN
FROM GEORGIA, MR. WESTMORELAND,
TO PRESIDE OVER THE COMMITTEE OF
THE WHOLE.
THE HOUSE IS IN THE
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ON THE
STATE OF THE UNION FOR
CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 5 WHICH
THE CLERK WILL REPORT BY TITLE.
A BILL TO IMPROVE
PATIENT ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE
SERVICES AND PROVIDE IMPROVED
MEDICARE CARE -- MEDICAL CARE.
PURSUANT TO THE RULE,
THE BILL IS CONSIDERED READ THE
FIRST TIME.
GENERAL DEBATE SHALL BE CONFINED
TO THE BILL AND AMENDMENTS
591.
SPECIFIED IN HOUSE RESOLUTION
IT SHALL NOT EXCEED SIX HOURS
EQUALLY DIVIDED AMONG AND
CONTROLLED BY THE RESPECTIVE
CHAIRS AND RANKING MINORITY
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEES ON
ENERGY AND COMMERCE, THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AND WAYS AND
MEANS.
THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE
GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN, MR.
UPTON.
THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER.
I WOULD YIELD MYSELF AS MUCH
TIME AS I MIGHT CONSUME.
THE GENTLEMAN IS
RECOGNIZED.
MR. SPEAKER, I RISE
TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE PATH ACT
WHICH ADDRESSES TWO OF THE MOST
GLARING DEFICIENCIES IN THE
PRESIDENT'S OVERHAUL OF THE
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
BY WHAT IT DOES, IT ALSO -- AND
ALSO BY WHAT IT FAILS TO DO, THE
HEALTH CARE LAW THREATENS ACCESS
TO QUALT QUALITY HEALTH CARE FOR
LITERALLY MILLIONS OF AMERICANS.
SECTION 3403 OF THE AFFORDABLE
CARE ACT ESTABLISHED THE
INDEPENDENT PAYMENT ADVISORY
BOARD OR IPAB, A PANEL OF 15
UNELECTED, UNACCOUNTABLE
BUREAUCRATS WILL BE GIVEN THE
POWER TO MAKE MAJOR DECISIONS
REGARDING WHO GOODS AND SERVICES
ARE VALUABLE.
THESE DECISIONS WOULD THEN BE
FASTTRACKED, ESSENTIALLY
BYPASSING THE LEGISLATIVE
PROCESS, WITH ALMOST NO
OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION OR
REVIEW.
THE PATH PREVENTS -- THE PATH
ACT PREVENTS THIS BY REPEALING
IPAB.
I SUSPECT THAT MOST AMERICANS
STILL BELIEVE THAT PATIENTS AND
THEIR DOCTORS SHOULD HAVE A
VOICE AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO
DECIDE WHAT HEALTH CARE SERVICES
THAT THEY FIND VALUABLE.
AND I THINK THEY STILL BELIEVE
THAT MAJOR POLICY DECISIONS
AFFECTING THE MEDICARE PROGRAM
AND THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IN
GENERAL NEED TO GO THROUGH THE
REGULAR LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AND
BE SUBJECT TO THE NORMAL SYSTEM
OF CHECKS AND BALANCES ACCORDING
TO THE CONSTITUTION.
IT IS ENCOURAGING THAT THE
CO-SPONSORS OF LEGISLATION TO
REPEAL IPAB INCLUDES 20
DEMOCRATS AND THAT THE BILL WAS
FAVORABLY REPORTED OUT OF THE
ENERGY AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE
EARLIER THIS MONTH WITHOUT ANY
RECORDED OPPOSITION.
A VOICE VOTE.
I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES ON
BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE TO
SUPPORT REPEALING IPAB AND NOT
TO BLOCK ITS PASSAGE AT THE
EXPENSE OF OUR SENIORS IN THE
BLIND EFFORT TO SUPPORT THE
PRESIDENT'S SIGNATURE
LEGISLATION.
THE LEGISLATION TODAY ALSO
INCLUDES REFORMS THAT WILL
THE COST OF
HEALTH CARE, A GLARING EMISSION
IN -- OMISSION IN THE
PRESIDENT'S HATE CARE LAW.
THE HEALTH CARE LAW FAILED TO
PROVIDE ANY MEANINGFUL REFORM TO
THE MEDICARE SYSTEM WHICH IS ONE
OF THE LARGEST COST DRIVERS --
DRIVERS OF OUR HEALTH CARE
SYSTEM.
THE CURRENT SYSTEM IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR AS MUCH AS $200
BILLION A YEAR IN UNNECESSARY
SPENDING ON DEFENSIVE MEDICINE.
IT FAILS TO COMPENSATE INJURE
THEED PATIENTS AND IT THREATENS
ACTION TO QUALITY HEALTH CARE BY
DRIVING GOOD DOCTORS OUT OF
HIGH-RISK SPECIALTIES SUCH AS
OBJECTS TRETICS AND
NEUROSURGERY.
ACCORDING TO THE C.B.O., THESE
COMMONSENSE REFORMS WILL REDUCE
THE FEDERAL DEFICIT BY $48.6
BILLION OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
SO, HOW HAVE OPPONENTS PROPOSED
TO FIX THIS PRESENT SYSTEM?
THEY WANT TO SPEND MORE, $50
MILLION IN GRANTS FOR STATE
DEMONSTRATIONS IS CALLED FOR IN
CARE LAW IS NOT A
SOLUTION.
IT'S AN ABDICATION OF
RESPONSIBILITY.
THE PRESIDENT PROMISED TO LOOK
AT REPUBLICAN IDEAS FOR MEDICAL
LIABILITY REFORM, PASSING THIS
LEGISLATION IS THE VERY FIRST
STEP TOWARDS ALLOWING THE
PRESIDENT TO MAKE GOOD ON THAT
PROMISE.
SO HEALTH CARE DECISIONS SHOULD
BE MADE BETWEEN A DOCTOR AND A
PATIENT.
THAT RELATION DOESN'T WORK WHEN
BUREAUCRATS AND TRIAL LAWYERS
COME BETWEEN THEM.
SO I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE
IN SUPPORT OF THIS LEGISLATION
AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY
TIME.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I
YIELD MYSELF AS MUCH TIME AS I
MAY CONSUME.
THE GENTLEMAN IS
RECOGNIZED.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE
IN OPPOSITION TO H.R. 5.
IT COMBINES TWO VERY BAD IDEAS
INTO ONE TERRIBLE BILL THAT IS
ANTI-SENIOR, ANTI-CONSUMER AND
ANTI-HEALTH.
IT'S NO ACCIDENT THAT WE'RE
CONSIDERING THE LEGISLATION
DURING THE SECOND ANNIVERSARY OF
THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
BECAUSE THIS IS A THINLY VEILED
PARTISAN ATTEMPT TO CONFUSE THE
PUBLIC AND OBSCURE THE LAW'S
SUCCESS IN COVERING YOUNG PEOPLE
, REDUCING COSTS FOR SENIORS AND
PROVIDING IMPROVED HEALTH
BENEFITS.
TITLE 1 OF THE BILL BEFORE US,
THE MEDICAL MALPRACTICE
PROVISIONS, HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR
OVER A DECADE.
DEMOCRATIC OR REPUBLICAN
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ENACTED UNDER
CONGRESSES AND PRESIDENTS.
BECAUSE THEY ARE AN EXTREME
INTRUSION ON THE AUTHORITY OF
THE STATES TO SET THEIR OWN
LIABILITY RULES AND WOULD SHIELD
BAD ACTORS FROM ACCOUNTABILITY
.
WHEN THEY CAUSE INJURY AND DEATH
LET'S BE CLEAR.
THIS BILL IS MUCH BROADER THAN
TRADITIONAL MEDICAL MALPRACTICE
LEGISLATION.
IT PROTECTS MANUFACTURERS,
DISTRIBUTORS, SUPPLIERS,
MARKETERS, EVEN PROMOTERS OF
HEALTH CARE PRODUCTS.
AND IT GIVES THEM PROTECTION
EVEN IF THEY INTENTIONALLY CAUSE
HARM.
INSURANCE COMPANIES AND H.M.O.'S
ARE PROTECTED AS WELL.
THE BILL SHIELDS DRUG AND DEVICE
MANUFACTURERS WITH COMPLETE
IMMUNITY FROM PUNITIVE DAMAGES
NO MATTER HOW RECKLESS THEIR
CONDUCT.
SO LONG AS THEIR PRODUCTS WERE
AT ONE TIME APPROVED BY THE
F.D.A.
THIS BILL PREEMPTS STATE ACTION
IN AN AREA THAT HAS
TRADITIONALLY BEEN LEFT TO THE
STATES.
TO THE EXTENT THAT WE DO HAVE A
MEDICAL MALPRACTICE PROBLEM IN
THIS COUNTRY, IT SHOULD BE
ADDRESSED AT THE STATE LEVEL.
STRIPS
AWAY STATE LAW, IT PUTS IN PLACE
A FEDERAL SCHEME THAT WILL NOT
REDUCE MEDICAL ERRORS, WILL NOT
AWARD APPROPRIATE AND ADEQUATE
COMPENSATION WHEN AN INJURY
OCCURS AND WILL NOT LOWER HEALTH
CARE COSTS.
THE SECOND PART OF THE BILL
WOULD REPEAL THE INDEPENDENT
PAYMENT ADVISORY BOARD OR IPAB
WHICH HELPS KEEP MEDICARE COSTS
UNDER CONTROL IF THEY RISE MORE
THAN ANTICIPATED.
IPAB'S ROLE IS TO RECOMMEND
EVIDENCE-BASED POLICIES TO
IMPROVE MEDICARE WITHOUT HARMING
PATIENTS.
REPEALING IPAB IS THE HEIGHT OF
HYPOCRISY.
THE MAIN REPUBLICAN ATTACK ON
MEDICARE AND THE AFFORDABLE CARE
ACT IS THAT WE CANNOT AFFORD
THEM.
HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE PROPOSING
CHANGES THAT WOULD DESTROY
MEDICARE BECAUSE THEY SAY TAKING
CARE OF OUR SENIORS JUST COSTS
TOO MUCH.
AND YET TODAY THEY WILL VOTE FOR
A BILL THAT ELIMINATES ONE OF
MEDICARE'S COST-SAVING
INNOVATIONS AND SADDLES MEDICARE
WITH OVER $3 BILLION IN
UNNECESSARY COSTS.
IT'S NO WONDER THAT THE PUBLIC
HOLDS CONGRESS IN SO LITTLE
REGARD.
THE REPUBLICAN MASTER PLAN FOR
MEDICARE IS TO END THE GUARANTEE
COVERAGE AND SHIFT MORE COSTS
ONTO SENIORS AND PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES.
THEY DON'T HOLD DOWN THE COSTS,
THEY SIMPLY SHIFT THEM ON TO
SENIORS AND DISABLED PEOPLE,
ONTO MEDICARE TO PAY MORE FOR IT
OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKETS.
THIS IS PART OF THE REPUBLICAN
ASSAULT ON MEDICARE.
REPEAL THE BACKSTOP IN
MEDICARE THAT KEEPS MEDICARE
AFFORDABLE FOR SENIORS.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT
THE IPAB IS AND WHAT IT ISN'T.
THE BOARD IS EXPLICITLY IN
STATUTE PROHIBITED FROM
RATIONING.
IT ALSO IS PROHIBITED FROM
MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT
INCREASE COSTS TO SENIORS OR CUT
BENEFITS.
IPAB ALSO DOESN'T TAKE AWAY THE
ROLE OF CONGRESS.
IPAB MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS BUT
CONGRESS CAN AND SHOULD ACT ON
THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT THESE
UNELECTED BUREAUCRATS.
LET ME TELL YOU, AND THIS PLACE
THERE ARE A LOT OF ELECTED
.
BUREAUCRATS.
HERE'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
THE DEMOCRATIC APPROACH AND
REPUBLICAN APPROACH TO
MEDICARE.
DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS ARE
COMMITTED TO PRESERVING
MEDICARE AND PROTECTING
SENIORS' BENEFITS.
REPUBLICANS HAVE PROPOSED
ENDING MEDICARE'S GUARANTEE OF
COVERAGE SO THEY CAN PAY FOR
TAX BREAKS FOR OIL COMPANIES
AND MILLIONAIRES.
LET ME UNDERSCORE THAT.
THEY WANT TO TAKE MONEY OUT OF
MEDICARE SO THEY CAN GIVE MORE
TAX BREAKS TO BILLIONAIRES AND
OIL COMPANIES.
LIKE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, I
HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT SOME
ASPECTS OF THE IPAB.
I DON'T AGREE WITH THE PREMISE
THAT WE NEED IPAB TO MAKE
CONGRESS DO ITS JOB, BUT NO ONE
SHOULD THINK THAT THE HYPERBOLE
OF IPAB REPUBLICAN'S RATIONING,
FACELESS BUREAUCRATS, PULLING
THE PLUG ON PATIENTS, THAT CAME
FROM THEIR PROPAGANDA WORD
MASTERS.
HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE VOTING TO
REPEAL THE INDEPENDENT PAYMENT
ADVISORY BOARD BECAUSE THEY
SIMPLY WANT TO ELIMINATE
MEDICARE.
THEY WANT TO PROVIDE VOUCHERS
INSTEAD OF BENEFITS.
THEY WANT TO SHIFT COSTS TO THE
BENEFICIARIES.
THEY WANT TO PUT MEDICARE INTO
A DEATH SPIRAL AND LEAVE
INSURANCE COMPANIES IN CHARGE
OF SENIORS' CARE.
THEN, IT WOULD BE THE INSURANCE
COMPANIES WHO COULD THEN RATION
CARE, CUT BENEFITS AND
ACCORDING TO THE CONGRESSIONAL
BUDGET OFFICE, LIKELY INCREASE
OUT-OF-POCKET COSTS BY $6,000.
DOES ANYBODY DOUBT INSURANCE
COMPANIES RATION CARE?
TRY TO GET AN INSURANCE POLICY
IF YOU HAVE A PREVIOUS MEDICAL
CONDITION.
THEY WON'T EVEN COVER YOU.
OR THEY CHARGE YOU SO MUCH YOU
CAN'T AFFORD IT.
IS THAT WHAT WE WANT, LET THE
INSURANCE COMPANIES MAKE THESE
DECISIONS FOR OUR SENIORS AND
DISABLED PEOPLE?
H.R. 5 IS A PARTISAN ASSAULT ON
MEDICARE, AN ASSAULT ON
PATIENTS WHO ARE INJURED BY
CARELESS DOCTORS AND DRUG
COMPANIES AND AN ASSAULT ON
STATES' RIGHTS.
I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO
ON H.R. 5, AND I RESERVE THE
BALANCE OF MY TIME.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
MICHIGAN.
I WOULD YIELD TO MR.
BARTON, THE GENTLEMAN FROM
TEXAS, TWO MINUTES.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO
MINUTES.
I THANK THE
DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN AND
WOULD ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO
REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.
WITHOUT OBJECTION,
SO ORDERED.
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE JUST HEARD AN ARGUMENT
FROM ONE OF THE AUTHORS, IF NOT
THE CHIEF AUTHOR OF THE NEW
HEALTH CARE LAW, SO IT'S
UNDERSTANDABLE THAT FORMER
CHAIRMAN WAXMAN WOULD RISE IN
-- INDIGNANT DEFENSE OF HIS
PRODUCT AND OPPOSE THIS BILL.
BUT H.R. 5, THE PATH BILL, IS
IN ACT WALT A RATION --
ACTUALITY A RESPONSE TO REFORM
THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
THE INDEPENDENT PAYMENT
ADVISORY BOARD IS AN
INDEPENDENT 15-MEMBER PANEL
APPOINTED BY THE PRESIDENT
UNLESS THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T
APPOINT IT UNLESS THREE OF THE
PRESIDENT'S CHIEF ADVISORS
BECOME THE BOARD, AND IF THEY
DON'T DECIDE TO DO IT THEN ONE
PERSON, THE SECRETARY OF HEALTH
AND HUMAN SERVICES, HAS THE
AUTHORITY WHEN THIS KICKS IN IN
2014 TO MAKE ALL KINDS OF
DECISIONS THAT THE RECOGNIZE
REAM IMPACT HEALTH CARE IN
AMERICA.
I DON'T THINK AND A MAJORITY OF
MY COLLEAGUES DON'T THINK IT'S
THE WAY IT SHOULD BE DONE, SO
THIS BILL IN ONE PARAGRAPH AT
THE -- I THINK ON PAGE 24,
REPEALS THAT SECTION.
THAT IS A GOOD START.
IT IS NOT THE END-ALL BE-ALL
BUT IT'S A GOOD START OF
REGAINING CONTROL OF HEALTH
CARE BY INDIVIDUALS IN THE
MARKETPLACE.
THE OTHER THING IT DOES IS PUT
IN A MEDICAL MALPRACTICE REFORM
THAT IS LONG OVERDUE.
THE PRESIDENT IN THE STATE OF
THE UNION SAID HE WAS FOR
MEDICAL MALPRACTICE.
I AM TOLD HE SAID HE'S NOT FOR
THIS MEDICAL MALPRACTICE.
JUST LIKE HE'S NOT AGAINST THE
KEYSTONE X.L. BUT HE CALLS
SENATORS TO OPPOSE IT WHEN IT
CAME UP IN THE OTHER BODY.
WE NEED MEDICAL MALPRACTICE
REFORM.
INDEPENDENT OBSERVERS HAVE SAID
THAT THIS BILL THAT CONGRESSMAN
GINGREY OF GEORGIA IS THE
ORIGINAL SPONSOR OF WOULD SAVE
$48 BILLION OVER I THINK A
10-YEAR PERIOD IF ENACTED.
$48 BILLION.
THAT'S REAL REFORM.
IT DOES NOT PREEMPT STATES.
IT ALLOWS THE STATES TO
CONTINUE THEIR PARTS OF MEDICAL
MALPRACTICE THAT THEY ALREADY
ENACTED.
SO I ASK THAT WE VOTE FOR THIS
PIECE OF LEGISLATION AND THANK
THE CHAIRMAN AND THE
SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRMAN AND ALL
THE MEMBERS THAT MADE IT
POSSIBLE.
THE TIME OF THE
GENTLEMAN HAS EXPIRED.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M
AT THIS TIME TO YIELD
THREE MINUTES TO THE
DISTINGUISHED REAL ESTATE AND
SOON-TO-BE CHAIRMAN OF THE
HEALTH SUBCOMMITTEE, THE
GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY, MR.
PALLONE.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
NEW JERSEY IS RECOGNIZED FOR
THANK YOU.
THREE MINUTES.
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN WAXMAN.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE A GREAT DEAL
OF RESPECT FOR MY FORMER
CHAIRMAN AND COLLEAGUE FROM
TEXAS, BUT THE PROBLEM THAT I
LISTEN TO HIM IS THAT IT'S
ALWAYS THE SAME.
IT'S MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY.
AND IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE
BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN MANY
OPPORTUNITIES IN THE COMMITTEE
WHERE WE COULD HAVE WORKED
TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH
LEGISLATION ON THINGS LIKE
MALPRACTICE REFORM AND IPAB,
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE GET FROM
AISLE.
THE REPUBLICAN SIDE OF THE
THEY JUST CONSTANTLY WANT TO DO
THEIR OWN THING AND AS HE SAID,
THE PRESIDENT MAY BE FOR
MALPRACTICE REFORM, BUT IF HE'S
NOT FOR THIS MALPRACTICE REFORM
THEN HE'S A BAD GUY.
THAT'S THE POINT.
WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER.
IF WE ARE EVER GOING TO
ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING WE NEED TO
GET TOGETHER AND I DON'T SEE
THAT ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE OF
THE AISLE TODAY.
I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THE
PROCESS OF CONSIDERING H.R. 5.
I AM DISAPPOINTED AND
FRUSTRATED THAT MY REPUBLICAN
COLLEAGUES HAD THE OPPORTUNITY
TO BRING TO THE FLOOR THAT I
AND SOME OF MY DEMOCRATIC
COLLEAGUES SUPPORTED BUT WHAT
THEY DECIDED TO DO INSTEAD IS
SIMPLY PLAY POLITICAL GAMES,
AGAIN.
POLITICAL GAMES OVER AND OVER
ALL SECTORS OF THE HEALTH CARE
INDUSTRY AGREE THAT THE
INDEPENDENT PAYMENT ADVISORY
BOARD, IPAB, SHOULD BE
REPEALED.
I'M THE FIRST ONE TO TELL YOU
HOW MUCH I AM OPPOSED TO IPAB.
IN FACT, DURING THE ENERGY AND
COMMERCE COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE
ON HEALTH MARKUP I VOTED IN
FAVOR OF ITS REPEAL.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, MY
REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES HAVE NO
INTEREST IN TRULY REPEALING
IPAB.
THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT DEFACING
THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AND
CONTINUING THEIR POLITICAL GAME
OF REPEALING THE LAW PIECE BY
PIECE.
NOW, I KNOW THAT BECAUSE
THEY'VE DECIDED TO PAY FOR THE
IPAB REPEAL WITH H.R. 5, ONE OF
THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL AND
HISTORICALLY PARTISAN BILLS OF
THE PAST DECADE.
WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THE SAME
DEBATE EVERY TIME, EVERY YEAR,
ON THE FLOOR AGAIN.
EACH YEAR THE REPUBLICANS HAVE
BEEN IN CHARGE, WE'RE FORCED TO
CONSIDER IDENTICAL LEGISLATION
THAT CONTAINS THE EXACT SAME
AREAS IN WHICH WE REMAIN
DIVIDED.
IN FACT, THE REPUBLICANS WERE
NOT ENABLE TO ENACT THIS BILL
INTO LAW WHEN THEY HAD THE
MAJORITIES IN THE HOUSE AND
SENATE AND PRESIDENCY AND THE
REASON IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE
ZERO DESIRE TO SOLVE THE
PROBLEMS OF THIS COUNTRY.
ALL THEY'RE INTERESTED IN
ACCOMPLISHING IS A POLITICAL
MESSAGE TO TAKE HOME TO THEIR
DISTRICTS.
I'VE SAID AGAIN AND AGAIN I
WILL WORK WITH MY COLLEAGUES IN
TRULY ADDRESSING MALPRACTICE
REFORM BUT THOSE CALLS HAVE
GONE UNANSWERED.
THERE HAS BEEN LITTLE EFFORT ON
THE PART OF THE REPUBLICANS TO
REACH ACROSS THE AISLE AND WORK
WITH DEMOCRATS ON A
SATISFACTORY SOLUTION TO
MEDICAL LIABILITY REFORM.
I DO UNDERSTAND THAT MEDICAL
MALPRACTICE AND LIABILITY IS A
VERY REAL PROBLEM FOR DOCTORS
IN MY HOME STATE AND IN THE
COUNTRY BUT H.R. 5 IS NOT THE
ANSWER.
ANY TRUE REFORM MUST TAKE A
BALANCED APPROACH AND INCLUDE
PROTECTIONS FOR THE LEGAL
RIGHTS OF PATIENTS AND BE
LIMITED TO MEDICAL MALPRACTICE.
TODAY, MY VOTE ON THIS PACKAGE
IS A NO VOTE ON H.R. 5 ALONE.
AS I'VE STATED, IT'S TOO
CONTROVERSIAL AND EXTREME IN
ITS CURRENT FORM, ALTHOUGH IT'S
DESCRIBED AS A MEDICAL
MALPRACTICE MEASURE, H.R. 5
EXTENDS FAR BEYOND THE FIELD OF
MALPRACTICE LIABILITY.
I'M JUST EXTREMELY
DISAPPOINTED.
I'M BEING HONEST IN SAYING I AM
REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP HAS
VERY DISAOPPONENTED THAT THE
ROBBED MANY DEMOCRATS OF THEIR
ABILITY TO VOTE CLEANLY ON IPAB
REPEAL AND HAVE INSTEAD YET
AGAIN POLITICIZED THIS BODY.
WHEN WILL YOU LEARN?
I YIELD BACK.
THE TIME OF THE
GENTLEMAN HAS EXPIRED.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN.
MR. SPEAKER, I'D
YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE
GENTLELADY FROM NORTH CAROLINA,
THE VICE CHAIRMAN -- CHAIRWOMAN
OF THE ENERGY AND COMMERCE
COMMITTEE, MRS. MYRICK.
THE GENTLELADY FROM
NORTH CAROLINA IS RECOGNIZED
FOR TWO MINUTES.
THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIRMAN.
MR. SPEAKER, THIS IS WASHINGTON
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ACRONYM
FOR EVERYTHING UP HERE.
THE IPAB ISN'T A NEW TECHY
TECHNIQUE BUT AN EXAMPLE OF ONE
MISGUIDED PARTS OF
LAW.
THE BUDGET-BUSTING HEALTH CARE
ABOUT?
WHAT'S THIS DEBATE REALLY
WE ALL KNOW THAT MEDICARE'S
HEADED TOWARD FINANCIAL
CATASTROPHE, AND THE HEALTH
REFORM LAW ONLY SUCCEEDED IN
PUTTING THE PROGRAM IN A MORE
PRECARIOUS POSITION.
THERE'S NO EASY SOLUTION TO
THIS PROBLEM BUT REPUBLICANS
HAVE PUT FORWARD A PLAN THAT
WOULD ACTUALLY SET THE PROGRAM
ON A HEALTHY FISCAL PATH AGAIN
WITHOUT HURTING THOSE WHO ARE
ALREADY ON THE PROGRAM.
OF COURSE, BECAUSE THIS IS
WASHINGTON, RATHER THAN HAVING
A HARDY DEBATE, THESE PROPOSALS
CONTINUE TO BE DEMAGOGUED AND
DERIDED.
INSTEAD, THE HEALTH REFORM BILL
GAVE US IPAB, AN UNACCOUNTABLE
BILL TAXED WITH LIMITING
PROCEDURES AND TREATMENTS IN
ORDER TO CONTROL COSTS.
IT'S A TOPDOWN,
UNCONSTITUTIONAL, INEFFECTIVE
AND INEFFICIENT WAY TO SOLVE
MEDICARE'S FISCAL PROBLEMS.
AND IF YOU THINK THIS BOARD
WON'T MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO
LIMIT THE USE OF EXPENSIVE BUT
LIFE-SUSTAINING TREATMENT, YOU
HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION.
BUT HERE'S SOMETHING THAT GETS
LOST IN THE DEBATE.
IPAB JUST DOESN'T APPLY TO
MEDICARE BENEFICIARIES FOR
SENIORS WHO ARE ON GOVERNMENT
PROGRAMS.
FIRST OFF, THOSE OF US WHO HAVE
BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE KNOW THAT
PRIVATE INSURERS TEND TO FOLLOW
MEDICARE.
WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME.
ONCE MEDICARE CHANGES
TREATMENT, THOSE DECISIONS PUSH
PRIVATE PAYERS TO ALSO MOVE IN
THAT DIRECTION BECAUSE SO MUCH
OF OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM
RELIES ON MEDICARE'S POLICIES.
THE GOVERNMENT ALREADY CONTROLS
SO MUCH OF OUR HEALTH CARE
SYSTEM, AND THAT'S WHY ALL
THESE INEFFICIENCIES ABOUND.
IF THAT WEREN'T ENOUGH,
STARTING IN 2015, THE IPAB CAN
MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT
PRIVATE PLANS WILL COVER.
YES, 15 PEOPLE WILL BE DECIDING
COVERING.
WHAT PRIVATE COMPANIES WILL BE
THAT'S WHAT'S FUNDAMENTALLY
WRONG WITH THE HEALTH CARE
REFORM LAW, AND WE SHOULD
REPEAL THE WHOLE THING.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, LET'S
REPEAL THIS ILL CONCEIVED BOARD
AND ADDRESS THE COUNTRY'S
MEDICAL MALPRACTICE PROBLEMS
WHILE WE'RE AT IT.
THE TIME OF THE
GENTLELADY HAS EXPIRED.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M
PLEASED TO YIELD TO AN
IMPORTANT MEMBER OF OUR
COMMITTEE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM
TEXAS, MR. GREEN, FOR TWO
MINUTES.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
MINUTES.
TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO
THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER, AND I THANK MY
COLLEAGUE AND RANKING MEMBER ON
OUR ENERGY AND COMMERCE
COMMITTEE.
I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL.
I'M NOT AS OPPOSED TO ALL OF
IT.
IN FACT, I AM A STRONG
SUPPORTER OF THE REPEAL OF THE
IPAB PROVISIONS.
HOWEVER, WE CAN'T UNDERMINE
AMERICANS RIGHT THROUGH COURT
PLACING ARBITRARY LIMITS ON
MALPRACTICE CASES.
DOES.
THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL BEFORE US
IT -- WE SHOULDN'T SOLVE A BAD
POLICY PROBLEM BY IMPLEMENTING
MORE BAD POLICY.
WE SHOULD BE PASSING GOOD
LEGISLATION, NOT TRYING TO PASS
SOMETHING THAT HAS NO CHANCE OF
BECOMING LAW AND THAT'S WHAT
THIS BILL DOES.
THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, THE
STATUTE OF THIS
BILL, HAS HAD ENORMOUS POSITIVE
IMPACT OF THE CONSTITUENTS I
REPRESENT.
IN THE LAW IT'S NOT TOTALLY
EFFECTIVE YET BUT IT'S GETTING
BETTER.
I WAS PROUD TO SUPPORT THIS
LANDMARK LEGISLATION AS PART OF
THE ENERGY AND COMMERCE
COMMITTEE AND ON THE HEALTH
SUBCOMMITTEE.
BEFORE THE PASSAGE OF THE
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, OUR
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT HAD THE
LARGEST PERCENTAGE OF UNINSURED
THAN ANY DISTRICT IN OUR
COUNTRY.
WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO
DO BUT THINGS ARE GETTING
BETTER.
FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, 53,000
CHILDREN IN OUR DISTRICT CAN'T
LOSE THE SECURITY OFFERED BY
HEALTH INSURANCE DUE TO
PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS.
3,400 SENIORS SAVED AN AVERAGE
OF $540 ON PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.
9,000 YOUNG PEOPLE NOW HAVE
HEALTH INSURANCE THAT THEY
DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE THE
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IS NOT
PERFECT BUT NO BILL IS PERFECT.
THE BILL BEFORE US TODAY IS FAR
FROM PERFECT.
I SUPPORT THE REPEAL OF IPAB.
I OPPOSED IPAB IN 2009 WHEN IT
CAME UP IN OUR COMMITTEE AND
MARKUP OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE
ACT.
I DO NOT BELIEVE A PANEL OF
OUTSIDERS APPOINTED BY THE
PRESIDENT SHOULD TAKE
RESPONSIBILITIES FOR WHAT
CONGRESS NEEDS TO DO IN MAKING
DECISIONS ON MEDICARE PAYMENT
RATES.
THAT'S PART OF OUR JOB AS A
MEMBER OF CONGRESS.
HOWEVER, THIS BILL HAS STEPPED
TOO FAR, AND I WANT THE
OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON
FREESTANDING IPAB REPEAL BUT I
CAN'T VOTE ON H.R. 5 BECAUSE
IT'S A BRIDGE TOO FAR.
I YIELD BACK MY TIME.
THANK YOU.
THE TIME OF THE
GENTLEMAN HAS EXPIRED.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN.
MR. CHAIRMAN, AT
THIS POINT I YIELD TWO MINUTES
TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA,
MR. STEARNS.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
FLORIDA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO
MINUTES.
I THANK THE
DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN.
THIS BILL, CONTRARY TO THE
GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS SAID, IS
AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HIM TO VOTE
TO NOT LET BUREAUCRATS MAKE THE
DECISION.
HE HAS A CHANCE TO DO THIS.
I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED WHY HE'S
SAYING HE'S AGAINST THE BILL.
I THINK MANY OF US WILL REPEAT
THE SAME ARGUMENTS.
THE FUNDAMENTAL POINT IS THIS
BILL WILL SAVE ALMOST $50
BILLION OVER 10 YEARS.
MANY PEOPLE ON THIS
SIDE DON'T WANT TO SAVE MONEY?
I THINK EVERYBODY ON BOTH SIDES
MONEY.
OF THE AISLE WOULD LIKE TO SAVE
SO THIS IS REALLY STOPPING THIS
DEFENSIVE MEDICINE AN UNTOLD
AMOUNT OF LITIGATION BY PASSING
THIS BILL.
THIS COULD EFFECTIVELY CREATE
PREMIUMS FOR EVERYBODY AND
LOWER THE COST OF HEALTH CARE.
THIS BILL WOULD ELIMINATE THE
INDEPENDENT PAYMENT ADVISORY
BOARD, IT'S GIVEN THE COLONIAL
NAME OF IPAB.
JUST THIS MORNING AS CHAIRMAN OF
THE OVERSIGHT AND INVESTIGATION
COMMITTEE, WE HELD A HEARING ON
THE PRESIDENT'S FAILED HEALTH
CARE LAW.
IT'S CLEAR THAT COUNTLESS PAGES
OF REGULATION, RULES,
REQUIREMENTS FOR OBAMACARE HAVE
BEEN INCREDIBLY CONFUSING.
AND WHEN WE HAD THIS HEARING IT
WAS BROUGHT UP CLEARLY THAT THIS
BILL OVER TWO YEARS HAS GIVEN
ALMOST 1,700 WAIVERS TO ENTITIES
WHO CANNOT COMPLY WITH THIS
HEALTH CARE BILL.
SO MY CONSTITUENTS AND
INDIVIDUALS THROUGHOUT THIS
COUNTRY WHO VIEW THESE MASSIVE
NEW RULES AND REGULATIONS AS
INCREASING INTERFERENCE OF THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INTO THEIR
AND OBVIOUSLY BUSINESS
LIVES.
COMMUNITIES, THEY'RE SEEKING
WAIVERS, 1,700 ENTITIES ASKING
FOR WAIVERS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T
COMPLY.
IT CREATES UNCERTAINTY IN THE
MARKETPLACE.
SO, FOR ALL THESE REASONS WE
NEED -- MUST PASS THIS BILL.
IN FACT, IPAB IS S.G.R. ON
STEROIDS.
RATHER THAN FIXING THE S.G.R.
PROBLEM IN THE HEALTH CARE LAW,
DEMOCRATS ARE HAPPY TO ALLOW
CONTINUED CUTS TO PHYSICIAN
PAYMENTS AND THEN DOUBLE DOWN ON
FURTHER CUTS THROUGH IPAB.
THIS IS A GROUP OF 15 UNELECTED
BUREAUCRATS WHO WOULD SAVE
MEDICARE BY MAKING DRACONIAN
CUTS TO PROVIDER PAYMENTLESS.
DEMOCRATS WANTED TO CONTROL --
PAYMENTS.
DEMOCRATS WANTED TO CONTROL THE
FUTURE COSTS OF MEDICARE BY
GIVING UNELECTED BUREAUCRATS THE
AUTHORITY TO CUT PAYMENTS TO
DOCTORS AND HOSPITALS.
IF DEMOCRATS ARE SERIOUS THEY
WOULD SUPPORT THIS BILL.
SAID WE HAVE TO --
NANCY PELOSI SAID WE HAVE TO
PASS THIS BILL TO FIND OUT
WHAT'S IN IT.
I'M DETERMINED TO MAKE SURE WE
DON'T HAVE TO FULLY IMPLEMENT
COSTS.
THE BILL SO WE CAN SEE WHAT IT
WITH THAT I YIELD BACK.
THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME
HAS EXPIRED.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M
ALWAYS AMUSED WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE
TALK ABOUT GOVERNMENT
INTERFERENCE IN OUR LIVES.
IF PEOPLE THINK MEDICARE IS AN
UNJUST GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE
IN THEIR LIVES, THEY CAN FOREGO
THEIR MEDICARE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW TOO MANY PEOPLE
WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT AND
WHAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE
PROPOSING IS TO TAKE THAT
MEDICARE AWAY FROM THEM AND TURN
IT OVER TO PRIVATE INSURANCE.
PUT THAT TO A VOTE.
I DON'T THINK THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE WOULD SUPPORT THAT EATER.
I'M PLEASED AT THIS TIME --
EITHER.
I'M PLEASED AT THIS TIME TO
YIELD TO A VERY IMPORTANT MEMBER
ON OUR COMMITTEE, ESPECIALLY IN
THE HEALTH COMMITTEE, THE
REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE ***
ISLANDS, MRS. CHRISTENSEN, FOR
TWO MINUTES.
THE GENTLELADY FROM
THE *** ISLANDS IS RECOGNIZED
FOR TWO MINUTES.
I THANK YOU
FOR YIELDING.
MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY IN A
TIME WHEN WE SHOULD ALL BE
CELEBRATING THE MANY GREAT
SUCCESSES OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE
ACT ON ITS SECOND ANNIVERSARY.
DEMOCRATS HAVE RIGHTLY BEEN
APPLAUDING THE HEALTH CAN CANNED
-- THE HEALTH AND ECONOMIC
BENEFITS OF AFFORDABLE, RELIABLE
ACCESS TO HIGH QUALITY HEALTH
CARE SERVICES BROUGHT ABOUT BY
THAT LANDMARK LAW.
NOT SO WITH OUR REPUBLICAN
COLLEAGUES WHO CHOOSE TO IGNORE
OR MISREPRESENT THE MANY
BENEFITS MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE
BEEN ENJOYING BECAUSE OF THE
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
THEN COMES THIS DISASTROUS
MARRIAGE BETWEEN TWO BILLS.
ONE THAT WILL REPEAL THE
INDEPENDENT PAYMENT ADVISORY
BOARD WITH SOME -- WHICH SOME
DEMOCRATS LIKE MYSELF SUPPORT
AND THE OTHER MALPRACTICE BILL
WHICH I STRONGLY OPPOSE BECAUSE
IT WILL TRAMPLE STATES' RIGHTS,
PROVIDING EXTRAORDINARY
DEVICE AND HEALTH INSURANCE
PROTECTIONS FOR DRUG AND MEDICAL
COMPANIES, MAKING IT NEARLY
IMPOSSIBLE FOR THOSE HARMED TO
SEEK AN ACHIEVED JUSTICE.
I SUPPORT THE IPAB REPEAL
BECAUSE IN ITS CURRENT FORM IT
WILL NOT ACHIEVE SIGNIFICANT
SAVINGS OR ENSURE QUALITY ACCESS
TO HEALTH CARE UNDER MEDICARE.
ADDITIONALLY, A PHYSICIAN WHO
PRACTICAL -- AS A PHYSICIAN WHO
PRACTICED FOR MORE THAN TWO
DECADES, I'M OPPOSED TO ITS
BROAD AUTHORITY TO MAKE
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD
DETRIMENTALY AFFECT HEALTH CARE
PROVIDERS AND EVENTUALLY THE
MEDICARE BENEFICIARIES.
HOWEVER ATTACHING AT THE VERY
LAST MINUTE A MEDICAL
MALPRACTICE BILL THAT PROVIDES
PROTECTION TO EVERY ENTITY
INVOLVED IN MEDICAL MALPRACTICE
AND HEALTH CARE LAWSUITS EXCEPT
THE VICTIM IS JUST PLAIN WRONG.
AND NO PUN INTENDED BUT ADDING
INSULT TO INJURY IS THE FACT
THAT THE MEDICAL MALPRACTICE
BILL IS COMPLETELY OUTDATED.
THE BILL WAS DESIGNED MORE THAN
TWO DECADES AGO.
BACK THEN WE ZR CHALLENGE WITH
MAGAZINE -- WE DID HAVE
CHALLENGE WITH MALPRACTICE
INSURANCE BUT THOSE CHALLENGES
HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
THIS COUNTRY.
TODAY WE DO NOT HAVE A CRISIS IN
I STRONGLY OPPOSE H.R. 5 AND
ENCOURAGE MY FRIENDS ON THE
OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE IN THE
FUTURE, IF IT'S MORE THAN JUST
POLITICAL RHETORIC, TO QUIT
WHILE THEY'RE AHEAD.
THANK YOU AND I YIELD BACK THE
BALANCE OF MY TIME.
THE GENTLELADY'S TIME
HAS EXPIRED.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA.
AT THIS TIME I YIELD
TO DR. BURGESS.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO
I THANK THE
MINUTES.
CHAIRMAN FOR THE RECOGNITION.
MR. SPEAKER, I WILL FOCUS MY
REMARKS ON THE INDEPENDENT
PAYMENT ADVISORY BOARD BECAUSE
IT ENCOMPASSES ALL THAT IS WRONG
WITH THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
THE HEALTH LAW ITSELF CONTAINS
POLICIES THAT WILL DISRUPT THE
PRACTICE OF MEDICINE.
ALONG WITH THE MANY EXCESSES AND
CONSTRICTIONS WITHIN THE LAW,
THE INDEPENDENT PAYMENT ADVISORY
BOARD REPRESENTS THE VERY WORST
OF THE WORST OF WHAT WILL
HAPPEN.
AS A PHYSICIAN, AS A MEMBER OF
CONGRESS, AS A FATHER, AS A
HUSBAND, AS A PATIENT IN HIS
60'S I AM OFFENDED BY THE
BOARD.
INDEPENDENT PAYMENT ADVISORY
THIS BOARD IS NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO
ANY CONSTITUENCY AND IT EXISTS
ONLY TO CUT PROVIDER PAYMENTS TO
FIT A MATHEMATICALLY CREATED
TARGET.
THE BOARD THROWS THE GOVERNMENT
INTO THE MIDDLE OF WHAT SHOULD
BE A SACRED RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
THE DOCTOR AND THE PATIENT.
THE DOCTOR AND THE PATIENT
SHOULD HAVE THE POWER TO
INFLUENCE PRICES AND GUIDE CARE,
NOT THIS BOARD.
BEYOND CONTROLLING MEDICARE, THE
INDEPENDENT PAYMENT ADVISORY
BOARD'S RATIONING WILL SERVE AS
A BENCHMARK FOR PRIVATE
CHANGES.
INSURANCE CARRIERS' OWN PAYMENT
THAT'S RIGHT.
ALTHOUGH MR. WAXMAN, THE MOMENT
THE FACT THAT PRIVATE INSURANCE
WOULD BE PART OF MEDICARE, THIS
THING WILL ACTUALLY DICTATE THE
BEHAVIOR OF PRIVATE INSURANCE'S
-- PRIVATE INSURANCES IN THIS
COUNTRY.
THE BOARD WILL HAVE FAR-REACHING
IMPLICATIONS BEYOND MEDICARE FOR
OUR NATION'S DOCTORS.
BECAUSE OF THE LIMITATIONS ON
WHAT THE CONTROL BOARD CAN CUT,
THE MAJORITY OF SPENDING
REDUCTIONS WILL COME FROM CUTS
TO PART B, DOCTORS' FEES.
DOCTORS WILL BECOME INCREASINGLY
UNABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES
THAT THE BOARD HAS DECIDED ARE
NOT VALUABLE.
IS THE ANSWER TO SQUEEZE OUT
DOCTORS?
SOUNDS LIKE RATIONING TO ME.
SO WHICH SOUNDS LIKE THE BETTER
OPTION?
MEDICARE BANKRUPTCY AND AN
UNELECTED BOARD DECIDING THE
CARE OF MEDICARE BENEFICIARIES
OR DOCTORS AND PATIENTS DECIDING
AND DEFENDING THE RIGHT OF THE
CARE THAT THEY RECEIVE?
THE FUTURE OF AMERICAN HEALTH
CARE SHOULD NOT BE LEFT UP TO
TO TO THIS PANEL.
IT'S AN ALOOF ARBITRARIER OF
HEALTH CARE WHO DEPEND ON HEALTH
CARE.
I'LL JUST LEAVE YOU WITH A QUOTE
FROM THE AMERICAN MEDICAL
ASSOCIATION.
IT PUTS OUR HEALTH POLICY AND
PAYMENT DECISIONS IN THE HANDS
OF AN INDEPENDENT BODY WITH NO
ACCOUNTABILITY, MAJOR CHANGES IN
THE MEDICARE PROGRAM SHOULD BE
DECIDED BY ELECTED OFFICIALS.
ASSOCIATION.
FROM THE AMERICAN MEDICAL
I YIELD BACK.
THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME
HAS EXPIRED.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM
PLEASED AT THIS POINT TO YIELD
TO MY COLLEAGUE FROM CALIFORNIA,
ONE OF THE KEY PEOPLE IN THE
AUTHORSHIP OF THE AFFORDABLE
CARE ACT, GEORGE MILLER, FOR
THREE MINUTES.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR
THREE MINUTES.
I THANK THE
GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING.
MR. SPEAKER, I CAME TO CONGRESS
IN 1975 AND SINCE THAT TIME I'VE
BEEN INVOLVED IN THE DEBATE OVER
NATIONAL HEALTH REFORM
PROPOSALS.
THROUGHOUT THESE DEBATES
LAWMAKERS STRUGGLE WITH HOW TO
CONTROL COSTS WITHOUT
SACRIFICING QUALITY CARE.
UNFORTUNATELY FOR DECADES
CONGRESS CHOSE TO KICK THE CAN
WHILE COSTS
CONTINUED TO CLIMB AND TO SOAR.
THIS TREND ENDED WITH THE
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
FOR THE FIRST TIME CONGRESS PUT
IN PLACE SPECIFIC IDENTIFIABLE
MEASURES THAT WILL MAKE OUR
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM MORE
TRANSPARENT AND EFFICIENT.
THIS INCLUDES THE CREATION OF
THE INDEPENDENT PAYMENT ADVISORY
BOARD, THIS BOARD WILL BE A
BACKSTOP TO ENSURE THAT FEDERAL
HEALTH PROGRAMS OPERATE
EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY FOR
BOTH SENIORS AND THE TAXPAYERS.
WE NEED TO GIVE THESE
BECAUSE WITHOUT THESE
INNOVATIONS A CHANCE TO WORK
INNOVATIONS THERE IS LITTLE HOPE
THAT -- TO GET HEALTH CARE COSTS
UNDER CONTROL.
535 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS CANNOT
BE NOR SHOULD THEY BE THE
DOCTORS WHO THINK THEY KNOW BEST
OF THE PRACTICE OF EVERY MEDICAL
FIELD.
535 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ARE NOT
IMMUNE TO SPECIAL INTERESTS THAT
HAVE A FINANCIAL STAKE IN THE
DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE.
NOT NECESSARILY THE BEST
INTERESTS OF THE SENIOR, THE
MEDICINE IN THIS COUNTRY.
TAXPAYERS OR THE DELIVERY OF
BUT PERHAPS IN THE BEST INTEREST
OF THEIR COMPANIES.
THAT'S WHY THE AFFORDABLE CARE
CREATED AN INDEPENDENT BOARD OF
HEALTH EXPERTS TO MAKE
RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPROVE THE
SYSTEM.
IT DOES NOT USURP THE ROLE OF
CONGRESS, IT SIMPLY ACTS AS A
FAILSAFE IN CASE GOVERNMENT
SPENDING EXCEEDS BENCHMARKS.
UNDER THE LAW DOCTORS WILL
ATTAIN FULL AUTHORITY TO
RECOMMEND THE TREATMENT THEY
THINK ARE BEST FOR PATIENTS.
THE LAW ALSO PROHIBITS THE
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD
RATION CARE, CHANGE PREMIUMS OR
REDUCE MEDICARE BENEFITS.
IN SHORT THIS INDEPENDENT BOARD
IS ABOUT STRENGTHENING MEDICARE
WITH EVIDENCE-BASED DECISION
MAKING.
WITHOUT INNOVATIVE REFORMS LIKE
THE BOARD, MEDICARE'S FUTURE
WILL BE PUT IN JEOPARDY, KICKING
THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD ANY
FURTHER WILL ONLY BOLSTER THOSE
WHO SEEK TO KILL MEDICARE.
WE MUST STRENGTHEN MEDICARE, NOT
END THE MEDICARE GUARANTEE.
THE AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE ACT
STRENGTHENS MEDICARE, EXTENDS
THE LIFE OF THE TRUST FUND AND
HAS ALREADY LOWERED THE COST FOR
MILLIONS OF SENIORS.
HOWEVER, WITHOUT INNOVATION, OUR
CURRENT SYSTEM WILL BE
UNSUSTAINABLE FOR OUR NATION'S
FAMILIES, BUSINESSES AND
TAXPAYERS.
THE REPUBLICAN PLAN TO END
ALTERNATIVE.
MEDICARE GUARANTEE IS NO
INNOVATION IS THE ALTERNATIVE.
AND I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO
THE INDEPENDENT PAYMENT
ADVISORY BOARD AND REJECT THIS
LEGISLATION.
THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME
HAS EXPIRED.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD
MUCH RATHER HEAR FROM SOME OF
OUR DOCTOR FRIENDS WHO ARE
SPEAKING SO ELOQUENTLY.
I HAVE ANOTHER DOCTOR MEMBER OF
THE HEALTH SUBCOMMITTEE FROM
PENNSYLVANIA, DISTINGUISHED
GENTLEMAN, DR. TIM MURPHY.
I YIELD FOR TWO MINUTES.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
PENNSYLVANIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR
TWO MINUTES.
I THANK THE
GENTLEMAN.
WHEN I WAS A STATE SENATOR OF
PENNSYLVANIA I TOOK ON H.M.O.'S
AND PLANS THAT MADE DECISIONS BY
ACCOUNTANTS AND M.B.A.'S AND NOT
M.D.'S.
IT WAS IMPORTANT TO DO THAT
BECAUSE WE FOUND THAT DOCTORS
COULD NOT MAKE DECISIONS EVEN
THOUGH THEY WERE SUPPOSEDLY
EMPOWERED TO DO THAT.
INSTEAD, THERE WAS BOARDS THAT
WOULD MAKE DECISIONS FOR THEM.
AND NOW HERE WE ARE WITH DEJA VU
ALL OVER AGAIN.
WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE 15
PRESIDENTIAL APPOINTMENTS, EVEN
UNDER THE ADVICE OF BOTH
CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE -- EXCUSE
ME, BOTH CHAMBERS OF CONGRESS,
NONE OF THEM ARE INVOLVED WITH
MEDICINE, MAKING DECISIONS WITH
REGARDS TO WHO MAKES DECISIONS
FOR YOU.
IN TERMS OF WHAT GETS PAID AND
HOW MUCH GETS PAID TO DOCTORS
AND HOSPITALS.
BUT AS IT GOES THROUGH, WHAT
HAPPENS IF THERE'S A DECISION
THAT SAYS IT'S NOT GOING TO BE
COVERED?
CAN YOU CALL THE BOARD ITSELF?
NO.
CAN YOU -- CAN YOUR DOCTOR CALL
NO.
THE BOARD?
BOARD?
CAN YOUR HOSPITAL CALL THE
NO.
CAN YOUR MEMBER OF CONGRESS CALL
NO.
THE BOARD?
IN FACT IT WILL TAKE AN ACT OF
CONGRESS PASSED BY THE HOUSE AND
SENATE AND SIGNED BY THE
PRESIDENT TO OVERRIDE THAT.
SO WHO IS THIS PANEL AND WHAT
DECISIONS CAN THEY MAKE?
IT'S PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED
WITH FINANCE, ECONOMICS,
HOSPITAL ADMINISTRATION,
REIMBURSEMENTS.
SOME PHYSICIANS, A HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS, PHARMACY BENEFIT
MANAGERS, EMPLOYERS, PEOPLE
INVOLVED WITH OUTCOME RESEARCH
AND MEDICAL HEALTH SERVICES AND
ECONOMICS.
WHAT'S MISSING FROM THAT IS ANY
REQUIREMENT THAT IT MIGHT BE
PEOPLE WHO HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF
AS ONCOLOGY,
PEDIATRICS, GERIATRIC MEDICINE,
FAMILY MEDICINE, SURGERY, AND
THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.
SO IN OTHER WORDS WHAT'S GOING
TO HAPPEN HERE IS NOT ONLY YOU
DON'T LIKE YOUR DOCTOR, YOU MAY
NOT BE ABLE TO KEEP IT, BUT IF
YOUR DOCTOR DOESN'T LIKE WHAT IS
GOING TO BE COVERED, THERE'S
ABOUT THAT.
NOTHING THAT HE OR SHE CAN DO
THIS IS NOT THE PRACTICE OF
MEDICINE.
THIS IS THE PRACTICE OF
GOVERNMENT OVERTAKING MEDICINE.
WHILE AMERICANS WERE BEGGING FOR
US TO FIX A BROKEN SYSTEM WHAT
THEY GOT WAS HALF A TRILLION IN
NEW TAXES, TRILLIONS -- HALF A
TRILLION IN MEDICARE CUTS,
TRILLIONS IN NEW COSTS AND
MASSIVE MANDATES.
1,978 NEW RESPONSIBILITIES OF
THE SECRETARY OF HEALTH, 150
BOARDS, PANELS AND COMMISSIONS
YET TO BE APPOINTED AND WE DON'T
KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
WE NEED TO RETURN HEALTH CARE TO
FIXED.
WHERE IT REALLY IS GOING TO BE
AND WITH THAT I YIELD BACK.
THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME
HAS EXPIRED.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I
YIELD MYSELF ONE MINUTE.
THE GENTLEMAN IS
RECOGNIZED.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
THE INDEPENDENT PAYMENT ADVISORY
BOARD.
ADVISORY BOARD.
AND THE APPOINTED MEMBERSHIP OF
THE BOARD SHALL INCLUDE
PHYSICIANS AND OTHER HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS, EXPERTS IN THE
AREA OF PHARMACEUTICAL ECONOMICS
OR PRESCRIPTION DRUG BENEFIT
PROGRAMS, EMPLOYERS, THIRD PARTY
PAYERS, INDIVIDUAL SKILLS IN THE
CONDUCT AND INTERPRETATION OF
BIOMEDICAL HEALTH SERVICES.
DOT, DOT, DOT.
THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO WILL GIVE
US SOME RECOMMENDATIONS BUT THEY
CAN'T GIVE US A RECOMMENDATION
TO TAKE AWAY SERVICES.
THEY CAN'T GIVE US A
RECOMMENDATION TO IMPOSE MORE
COSTS ON THE MEDICARE
BENEFICIARIES.
AND WHEN THEY GIVE US THEIR
ACT ON IT.
RECOMMENDATIONS, CONGRESS CAN
AND IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, WE CAN
CHANGE THEM.
I THINK WE HAVE THE REPUBLICANS
TRYING TO SCARE PEOPLE.
THEY COME IN AND SAY, MEDICARE
COSTS TOO MUCH.
WELL, IF IT COSTS TOO MUCH,
THAT'S WHY WE NEED THIS BACKUP.
TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE HOLDING
DOWN COSTS.
THEY SAY IT COSTS TOO MUCH AND
THEREFORE LET'S END IT.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
I THINK THE AMERICANS SHOULD NOT
BE FOOLED.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO NOW
YIELD TO MY COLLEAGUE FROM
CALIFORNIA, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE
SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE WAYS AND
MEANS COMMITTEE, MR. STARK, FOR
THREE MINUTES.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR
THREE MINUTES.
THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIRMAN.
I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO
I --
REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS AND
WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO
ORDERED.
I WANT TO THANK
AT THIS TIME.
CHAIRMAN WAXMAN FOR YIELDING ME
I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO H.R. 5,
BROUGHT TO THE FLOOR BY MY
REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES.
IT DOES TWO THINGS.
REPEALS IPAB AS CREATED THE
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, AND IT
ENACTS A MEDICAL MALPRACTICE
REFORM LONG SOUGHT BY MY
REPUBLICAN FRIENDS AS A WAY TO
PROTECT PHARMACEUTICAL
COMPANIES, MEDICAL DEVICE
COMPANIES, HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS
FROM ANY LIABILITY OR FULL
LIABILITY THAT MAY CAUSE HARM OR
DEATH.
THE MEDICAL MALPRACTICE PART OF
THIS BILL IS SO BAD THE
CALIFORNIA MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
REJECTS THE BILL AND SAYS TO
VOTE NO UNLESS THEY HAD A DECENT
MEDICAL MALPRACTICE REFORM PART
IN IT AND WHEN THE DOCTORS WILL
REJECT MEDICAL MALPRACTICE
REFORM ISSUES, YOU KNOW IT'S GOT
.
TO BE BAD.
THIS EXTREME PROPOSAL IS REALLY
NOT NEEDED.
I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH THE PART
OF THE BILL THAT REPEALS IPAB.
WE REFUSE TO INCLUDE IT IN THE
HOUSE VERSION OF HEALTH REFORM,
AND CONGRESS HAS ALWAYS STEPPED
IN IN ITS CONGRESSIONAL MANNER
TO STRENGTHEN MEDICARE'S
FINANCES WHEN NEEDED, AND I SEE
NO NEED FOR US TO RELINQUISH
THAT DUTY.
TO LOOK AT THE
HEALTH REFORM LAW.
IT'S EXTENDED SOLVENCY, IT
SLOWS SPENDING GROWTH, IT'S
LOWERED BENEFICIARY COSTS, IT'S
MODERNIZED THE DELIVERY SYSTEM,
CREATED NEW FRAUD-FIGHTING
TOOLS.
WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB.
IN FACT, C.B.O. PROJECT THAT
IPAB WON'T EVEN BE TRIGGERED
UNTIL THE NEXT 10 YEARS,
PROVING WE'VE ALREADY DONE OUR
JOB HERE IN CONGRESS OF
STRENGTHENING MEDICARE'S
FINANCES.
TODAY'S REPUBLICAN SUPPORT TO
REPEAL IPAB ISN'T A SINCERE
INTEREST IN PROVIDING MEDICARE
FOR ALL.
THEY STILL WANT TO GIVE US AN
UNFUNDED OR UNDERFUNDED
VOUCHER, SLASH AND BURN FUNDING
AND DESPITE MY OPPOSITION TO
IPAB, IT'S FAR LESS DANGEROUS
TO MEDICARE THAN THE REPUBLICAN
VOUCHER PLAN PUT FORTH IN THE
HOUSE REPUBLICAN BUDGET THIS
WEEK.
IF IPAB DOESN'T UNDERMINE
MEDICARE'S GUARANTEED BENEFITS
AND ITS ABILITY TO REDUCE
MEDICARE SPENDING, IT HAS
GUARDRAILS TO PREVENT IT.
IT DOESN'T PREVENT COSTS TO
COME FROM REDUCING MEDICARE AND
INCREASING COSTS ON
BENEFICIARIES.
IT PROHIBITS RATIONING AND HAS
ANNUAL LIMITS ON THE CUTS.
THE REPUBLICAN VOUCHER PLAN HAS
NONE OF THESE PROTECTIONS.
THE REPUBLICANS ARE CONTINUING
THE MARCH BEGUN BY NEWT
GINGRICH TO HAVE MEDICARE
WITHER ON THE VINE, AND I URGE
MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO ON YET
ANOTHER POLITICAL STUNT WHICH
REALLY THANKFULLY IS NOT VESTED
TO BECOME LAW AT THIS TIME.
I YIELD BACK.
THE TIME OF THE
GENTLEMAN HAS EXPIRED.
PENNSYLVANIA.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIRMAN.
I JUST LIKE TO TAKE 30 SECONDS
TO RESPOND TO THE --
THE GENTLEMAN IS
RECOGNIZED FOR 30 SECONDS.
BEFORE I YIELD TO
MR. BASS, HE MENTIONED THAT
THIS SO-CALLED EXPERT PANEL
CARE PROFESSIONALS.
COULD HAVE PHYSICIANS, HEALTH
SECTION 3403-G
OF PPACA ON PAGE 432,
SPECIFICALLY ON MAJORITY FOR
THE PANEL.
THERE'S A SPECIFIC PROHIBITION
THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE A MAJORITY
OF HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS OR
PHYSICIANS ON IPAB.
AS FAR AS THIS BEING
RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU CAN'T
APPEAL, YOU CAN'T SUE THIS
BOARD ONLY WITH 3/5 VOTES IN
BOTH CHAMBERS CAN YOU OVERTURN
THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE
GENTLEMAN FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE,
MR. BASS.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
NEW HAMPSHIRE IS RECOGNIZED FOR
TWO MINUTES.
I THANK MY FRIEND FOR
YIELDING.
MR. SPEAKER, I RISE IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL CONSISTING OF TWO
BILLS, TORT REFORM AND REPEAL
ADVISORY BOARD.
OF THE INDEPENDENT PAYMENT
I WASN'T HERE WHEN THE OBAMA
HEALTH CARE LAW OR AFFORDABLE
CARE ACT WAS PASSED.
YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT
NOBODY SUPPORTED THIS BILL.
OF ALL THE SPEAKERS WE HAD I
THINK THREE HAVE ADMITTED THEY
SUPPORTED IT THEN.
AND NOW YOU THINK IT NEVER
EXISTED.
WELL, ANY AGENCIES THAT'S
SCORED BY C.B.O. TO SAVE $3.1
BILLION IS NOT GOING TO DO IT
BY PROVIDING MORE SERVICES TO
PRESERVATION.
SENIORS OR INNOVATION OR
IT'S GOING TO DO IT BY CUTTING
PAYMENTS TO PROVIDERS OR
CUTTING SERVICES TO
BENEFICIARIES.
IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
AND THIS IS THE BEGINNING OR
PERHAPS THE CORE OF WHAT
REPRESENTS A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
TAKEOVER OF HEALTH CARE
SERVICES IN THIS COUNTRY.
SURE, THERE MAY BE A PROCESS
WHEREBY RECOMMENDATIONS COULD
GO TO THE CONGRESS, BUT INSTEAD
OF THE RELATIONSHIP BEING
BETWEEN A PATIENT AND A DOCTOR,
IT IS GOING TO BE GOVERNED MORE
BY A FEDERAL BUREAUCRACY THAT
WILL MAKE THESE DECISIONS.
I URGE SUPPORT OF THE PENDING
BILL, H.R. 5.
THE TIME OF THE
GENTLEMAN HAS EXPIRED.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I
YIELD MYSELF A MINUTE.
THE GENTLEMAN IS
RECOGNIZED.
WE HEARD THEM IN
1965 WHEN MEDICARE WAS BEING
PROPOSED.
SOCIALIZED MEDICINE, AN UNFAIR
GOVERNMENT INTRUSION INTO OUR
LIVES.
MEDICARE IS A POPULAR,
SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.
I SUPPORT IT BUT THE
REPUBLICANS DIDN'T SUPPORT IT
THEN AND THEY DON'T SUPPORT IT
NOW.
THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IS AN
EXCELLENT BILL.
I PROUDLY VOTED FOR IT BECAUSE
AS A RESULT OF THAT
LEGISLATION, WE'RE ALREADY
SEEING YOUNG PEOPLE BEING ABLE
TO GET INSURANCE UP TO 26 YEARS
OF AGE ON THEIR PARENT'S
POLICIES.
WE'RE ALREADY SEEING SENIORS
GET HELP TO PAY FOR THEIR
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.
WE ARE SEEING INSURANCE
COMPANIES PROHIBITED FROM THE
ABUSES WHERE THEY PUT LIFETIME
LIMITS AND ARE GOING TO BE
STOPPED FROM DENYING PEOPLE
HEALTH INSURANCE BECAUSE OF
PRE-EXISTING MEDICAL
CONDITIONS.
THIS IS GOOD AND WE ARE GOING
TO GET MORE BENEFITS FOR OVER
30 MILLION MORE AMERICANS WHEN
THE BILL IS FULLY IN PLACE.
IT'S A GOOD BILL.
THE REPUBLICANS WOULD LIKE TO
REPEAL IT BUT LET'S NOT FORGET,
THEY DIDN'T WANT MEDICARE IN
THE FIRST PLACE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, NOW THAT I USED
MY MINUTE, I'D LIKE TO YIELD TO
THE -- TO A MEMBER OF OUR
COMMITTEE FROM THE STATE OF
ILLINOIS WHO HAS BEEN VERY
INVOLVED IN HELPING SENIORS ON
ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS, WHETHER
IT'S SOCIAL SECURITY OR
MEDICARE OR MEDICAID.
SHE'S VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND
HIGHLY RESPECTED.
A LITTLE SHORTER THAN THE
PODIUM, BUT I'M PLEASED TO
YIELD HER THREE MINUTES.
THE GENTLELADY FROM
ILLINOIS IS RECOGNIZED FOR
THREE MINUTES.
THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR --
THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO
REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.
WITHOUT OBJECTION,
SO ORDERED.
H.R. 5
REPRESENTS ANOTHER IN A LONG
LINE OF PARTISAN POLITICAL
ATTACKS ON THE AFFORDABLE CARE
ACT.
SINCE ITS PASSAGE TWO YEARS
AGO, THIS HISTORIC LAW HAS BEEN
UNDER ATTACK.
TODAY'S BILL WOULD REPEAL THE
INDEPENDENT PAYMENT ADVISORY
BOARD.
THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IS
REPLETE WITH PROVISIONS TO
LOWER MEDICARE COSTS FROM
UNPRECEDENTED TOOLS TO FIGHT
FRAUD TO EFFICIENCY REFORM.
THE IPAB IS A BACKSTOP TO THOSE
PROVISIONS.
WHEN THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT
DOES NOT DO AND WHAT THE IPAB
IS PROHIBITED FROM DOING IS
INCREASE COSTS TO SENIORS AND
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES OR CUT
BENEFITS.
AND THAT MAY BE WHY MY
REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES DON'T
LIKE IT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR PROPOSAL
TO TAKE AWAY THE MEDICARE
GUARANTEE AND TURN IT INTO A
VOUCHER PROGRAM, YOU CAN SEE
WHY.
INSTEAD OF LOWERING COSTS FOR
EVERYONE, AS THE AFFORDABLE
CARE ACT DOES, THE REPUBLICAN
PLAN JUST SHIFTS COSTS ON THE
BACKS OF THOSE WHO CAN LEAST
AFFORD IT -- SENIORS, DISABLED
PEOPLE AND THEIR FAMILIES.
THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO
ARE HARMED BY THE TORT REFORM
H.R. 5.
FEDERAL INTRUSION, COUPLED WITH
CONSUMERS.
THE DISREGARD FOR INJURED
INSTEAD OF WORKING TO IMPROVE
HEALTH CARE QUALITY, AS THE
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT DOES, H.R.
5 SIMPLY RESTRICTS THE RIGHTS
OF PATIENTS HARMED BY DANGEROUS
DRUG COMPANIES, NURSING HOMES,
MEDICAL DEVICE MANUFACTURERS,
DOCTORS OR HOSPITALS.
I'M ESPECIALLY OPPOSED TO
ARBITRARY CAPS ON NONECONOMIC
DAMAGES.
ECONOMIC DAMAGES PROVIDE
COMPENSATION FOR LOST WAGES.
NONECONOMIC DAMAGES PROVIDE
COMPENSATION FOR INJURIES THAT
ARE JUST AS REAL AND DAMAGING.
INJURIES LIKE EXCRUCIATING PAIN
OR DISFIGUREMENT, LOSS OF A
SPOUSE OR GRANDPARENT,
INABILITY TO BEAR CHILDREN.
THESE ARE DISCRIMINATORY FOR
SENIORS AND CHILDREN WHO DON'T
HAVE LOST WAGES, WHO AREN'T
WORTH MUCH.
HIGHER COSTS TO DISABLED PEOPLE
AND SENIORS AND FEWER LEGAL
RIGHTS FOR INJURED CONSUMERS,
IT'S A BAD DEAL ON BOTH COUNTS.
MR. SPEAKER, I YIELD BACK TO
MR. WAXMAN.
THE GENTLELADY
YIELDS BACK HER TIME.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
PENNSYLVANIA.
MR. CHAIRMAN, AT
THIS TIME I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO
ANOTHER DISTINGUISHED MEMBER OF
THE HEALTH SUBCOMMITTEE, MR.
GUTHRIE FROM KENTUCKY.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
KENTUCKY IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE
MINUTE.
I THANK THE
GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING.
THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
I RISE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF H.R.
5, LEGISLATION TO REPEAL THE
IPAB, AND MAKE CRITICAL REFORMS
TO MEDICAL LIABILITY SYSTEM.
THE IPAB WAS CREATED IN THE
HEALTH CARE LAW AS A WAY TO
CONTAIN GROWING COSTS BURKS THE
REALITY IS MOST SAVINGS WILL
LIKELY BE FOUND BY PLACING
DECISIONS IN THE HANDS OF
UNELECTED BUREAUCRATS.
AND IT ADDRESSES THE CRITICAL
ISSUE OF MEDICAL LIABILITY
REFORM.
OUR CURRENT TORT SYSTEM IS
DRIVING DOCTORS OUT OF THE
PRACTICE OF MEDICINE.
THOSE REMAINED ARE FORCED TO
PRACTICE DEFENSIVE MEDICINE.
THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE
HAS ESTIMATED THAT MEDICAL
LIABILITY REFORM WILL SAVE
HARDWORKING TAXPAYERS OVER $40
BILLION.
H.R. 5 MAKES TWO COMMONSENSE
REFORMS TO PROTECT DOCTORS AND
PATIENTS.
I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT
THE BILL AND YIELD BACK THE
BALANCE OF MY TIME.
THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS
BACK HIS TIME.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.
MR. SPEAKER, MAY I
INQUIRE HOW MUCH SIDE HAS?
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
CALIFORNIA HAS 36 MINUTES
REMAINING.
AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM
PENNSYLVANIA HAS 44 MINUTES
REMAINING.
MR. CHAIRMAN, AT
THIS TIME I YIELD FIVE OF OUR
36 MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN
FROM IOWA, MR. BRALEY.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
IOWA IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE
MINUTES.
I THANK THE
GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING.
MR. SPEAKER, HERE WE GO AGAIN.
MY CONSERVATIVE FRIENDS ARE
ONCE MORE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY
RIGHTS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS
THAT ARE AS OLD AS THE
DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND
THE BILL OF RIGHTS, AND THEY'RE
DOING IT BY TALKING ABOUT
TAKING AWAY THE RIGHTS OF
PATIENTS WITHOUT EVER
MENTIONING THE WORD PATIENT
SAFETY.
THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN WITH US FOR
A LONG TIME, AND IN FACT ABOUT
10 YEARS AGO, THE HIGHLY
REGARDED INSTITUTES OF MEDICINE
DID THREE STUDIES ON THE ISSUE
OF PATIENT SAFETY AND THE
ALARMING COST IT ADDS TO OUR
OVERALL HEALTH CARE DELIVERY
SYSTEM.
THE FIRST OF THEIR STUDIES WAS
CALLED TO ERR IS HUMAN,
BUILDING A SAFER HEALTH SYSTEM.
AND ON THIS COVER IT SAYS,
FIRST, DO NO HARM.
THE STUDY CONCLUDED THAT EVERY
YEAR UP TO 98,000 PEOPLE DIE IN
THIS COUNTRY DUE TO PREVENTABLE
MEDICAL ERRORS.
AND IT ALSO TAUGHT IN THIS --
TALKED IN THIS STUDY ABOUT THE
COST OF THOSE MEDICAL ERRORS.
THE COST OF FAILING TO STOP
THESE PREVENTABLE MEDICAL
ERRORS IS BETWEEN $17 BILLION
AND $29 BILLION A YEAR.
MULTIPLY THAT OVER
THE 10 YEARS OF THE AFFORDABLE
CARE ACT, THAT MEANS IF WE
ELIMINATED THOSE ERRORS, WE
WOULD SAVE $170 BILLION TO $290
BILLION A YEAR.
SO DO WE FOCUS ON PATIENT
SAFETY AND PREVENTING MEDICAL
ERRORS?
NO.
WE FOCUS ON TAKING AWAY THE
RIGHTS OF THE MOST SEVERELY
INJURED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
CAPS ON DAMAGES DO.
THEY PENALIZE THOSE WITH THE
MOST EGREGIOUS INJURIES AND
THOSE WHO HAVE NO EARNING
CAPACITY.
SO WHO ARE THOSE PEOPLE?
THEY'RE SENIORS, THEY'RE
CHILDREN AND THEY ARE
STAY-AT-HOME MOTHERS.
THOSE ARE THE ONES MOST
SEVERELY PENALIZED WHEN YOU
TAKE AWAY THAT.
SO I OPPOSE THIS BILL IN THE
NAME OF THE TEA PARTY.
NOT JUST THE CURRENT TEA PARTY
BUT THE ORIGINAL TEA PARTY
WHICH WAS FOUNDED IN OPPOSITION
REPRESENTATION.
TAXATION WITHOUT
AND IF YOU GO TO THOMAS
JEFFERSON'S DECLARATION OF
INDEPENDENCE, YOU WILL SEE THAT
GRIEVANCE AGAINST KING GEORGE
LISTED, AND RIGHT BELOW IT IN
THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE
IS THIS GRIEVANCE, THAT HE HAS
TAKEN AWAY THE RIGHT OF TRIAL
BY JURY AND THAT RIGHT WAS SO
GENTLEMEN, THAT IT WAS EMBEDDED
IMPORTANT, LADIES AND
IN THE SEVENTH AMENDMENT TO THE
BILL OF RIGHTS.
AND IT SAYS VERY CLEARLY THAT
IN SUITS AT COMMON LAW, WHICH
IS WHAT A MEDICAL NEGLIGENCE
CLAIM IS, THE JURY GETS TO
DECIDE ALL QUESTIONS OF FACT
AND NO ONE ELSE.
WELL, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT
QUESTIONS OF FACT IN A JURY
TRIAL IS THE ISSUE OF DAMAGES,
AND MY FRIENDS ARE TRYING TO
TAKE AWAY THAT RIGHT FROM THE
JURY, THE VERY SAME PEOPLE WHO
ELECTED US TO CONGRESS, BECAUSE
THEY APPARENTLY THINK THAT
CONGRESS KNOWS MORE THAN THE
PEOPLE WHO SENT US HERE AND WHO
GO INTO JURY BOXES ALL OVER
COUNTRY IN YOUR STATE AND
LISTEN TO THE ACTUAL FACTS OF
THE CASE BEFORE DECIDING WHAT'S
FAIR, INCLUDING THE
ALL-IMPORTANT ISSUE OF WHAT ARE
FAIR AND REASONABLE DAMAGES.
SO THEY'RE TALKING A LOT TODAY
ABOUT DEFENSIVE MEDICINE.
I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE
MYTH OF DEFENSIVE MEDICINE.
EVERY TIME A HEALTH CARE
PROVIDER SUBMITS A FEE FOR
SERVICES, THEY REPRESENT THAT
THAT MEDICAL PROCEDURE OR THAT
MEDICAL TEST WAS MEDICALLY
NECESSARY, AND IF THEY DON'T
MAKE THAT REPRESENTATION, THEY
DON'T GET PAID.
WELL, GUESS WHAT, FOLKS?
IF SOMETHING IS PERFORMED AND
BILLED AS MEDICALLY NECESSARY,
THAT BY DEFINITION IS NOT
DEFENSIVE MEDICINE, BECAUSE
DEFENSIVE MEDICINE IS WHEN
YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S
NOT MEDICALLY NECESSARY TO
LITIGATION.
PROTECT YOURSELF FROM
SO YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
YOU CAN'T TAKE THE MONEY AND
CLAIM YOU'RE PRACTICING
DEFENSIVE MEDICINE.
WE ALSO HEARD ABOUT THE MYTH OF
THESE CAPS 30 YEARS AGO
AND NEVER ADJUSTING THEM FOR
INFLATION.
THEY ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT
THE CALIFORNIA BILL THAT WAS
PASSED IN THE MID 1970'S AND
IMPOSED THE VERY SAME CAP IN
THIS BILL, $250,000.
WHAT THEY DON'T TELL YOU IS IF
YOU ADJUST THAT CAP BASED ON
THE RATE OF MEDICAL INFLATION
OVER THAT SAME PERIOD OF TIME,
THE CAP WOULD NOW BE WORTH
ALMOST $2 MILLION, AND THEN IF
YOU REDUCED THAT $ 50,000 CAP
TO -- $250,000 CAP TO PRESENT
VALUE, THOSE ARE ONLY GETTING
THE EQUIVALENT OF $64,000 NO
MATTER HOW SERIOUS THEIR INJURY
IS, AND THAT'S WHY I OPPOSE
THIS LEGISLATION AND THAT'S WHY
PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN THE
CONSTITUTION AND IN THE STATES'
RIGHTS UNDER THE 10TH AMENDMENT
TO DECIDE WHAT THEIR CITIZENS
WILL RECEIVE AS JUSTICE SHOULD
BE OUTRAGED THAT THIS BILL IS
ON THE FLOOR TODAY, AND WITH
THAT I YIELD BACK.
THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME
HAS EXPIRED.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA.
MR. CHAIRMAN, AT THIS
TIME I YIELD TO ANOTHER VALUED
MEMBER OF THE HEALTH
SUBCOMMITTEE TWO MINUTES, THE
GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY, MR.
LANCE.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
NEW JERSEY IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO
MINUTES.
LANTS LANCE THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER, --
THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER, AND THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIRMAN, FOR YIELDING.
I RISE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF H.R.
5, AS IT COMBINES THE REPEAL OF
THE INDEPENDENT PAYMENT ADVISORY
BOARD WITH SIGNIFICANT MEDICAL
MALPRACTICE REFORMS THAT WILL
HELP REDUCE HEALTH CARE COSTS
AND RESERVE PARENTS -- PATIENTS'
ACCESS TO MEDICAL CARE.
TODAY MARKS THE TWO-YEAR
ANNIVERSARY OF HOUSE PASSAGE OF
THE PRESIDENT'S HEALTH CARE LAW.
DURING THAT DEBATE TWO YEARS AGO
I JOINED MEMBERS FROM BOTH SIDES
OF THE AISLE IN CALLING ON THE
PRESIDENT TO ADDRESS ONE OF THE
DRIVERS OF THE HIGH COSTS OF
HEALTH CARE BY REFORMING THE
CURRENT MEDICAL LIABILITY
SYSTEM.
UNFORTUNATELY THE PRESIDENT'S
HEALTH CARE BILL PASSED THE
21, 2010, ABSENT
ANY REAL OR MEANINGFUL MEDICAL
LIABILITY REFORM.
THE NEW CLAW DID INCLUDE THE
INDEPENDENT PAYMENT ADVISORY
BOARD OR IPAB, AND THIS
COST-CONTROLLED BOARD MADE UP OF
15 UNELECTED AND MIGHT I ADD
UNCONFIRMED OFFICIALS HAS THE
POWER TO MAKE MAJOR COST-CUTTING
DECISIONS ABOUT MEDICARE WITH
LITTLE OVERSIGHT OR
ACCOUNTABILITY.
THE IPAB HAS BEEN CRITICIZED BY
BOTH REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS
AND ITS REPEAL IS SUPPORTED BY
NEARLY 400 GROUPS REPRESENTING
PATIENTS, DOCTORS AND EMPLOYERS.
TODAY ON THE TWO-YEAR
ANNIVERSARY OF THE HOUSE PASSAGE
OF THE HEALTH CARE LAW WE HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE TO THE
FUTURE AND ENACT REAL HEALTH
CARE REFORM THAT WILL HELP BRING
DOWN HEALTH CARE COSTS THAT ARE
ESCALATING AT UNSUSTAINABLE
RATES WHILE AT THE SAME TIME
PROTECTING NEEDED CARE FOR OUR
SENIOR CITIZENS.
AS A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE ENERGY
AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE, I'M
PLEASED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO WORK ON THIS IMPORTANT
LEGISLATION AND URGE ALL OF MY
COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT H.R. 5.
BALANCE OF MY TIME.
MR. SPEAKER, I YIELD BACK THE
THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME
HAS EXPIRED.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL
CONTINUE TO RESERVE OUR TIME.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
CALIFORNIA RESERVES HIS TIME.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA.
MR. CHAIRMAN, AT THIS
TIME I YIELD TO ANOTHER
DISTINGUISHED MEMBER OF THE
HEALTH SUBCOMMITTEE, DR.
GINGREY, FOR TWO MINUTES.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM
GEORGIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO
MINUTES.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I
THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING
AND OF COURSE I STAND IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF H.R. 5, THE PATH ACT.
HAVING AUTHORED HALF OF THE
LEGISLATION, THAT IS THE HEALTH
ACT, THE MEDICAL LIABILITY
REFORM ACT, BUT I'M ALSO
STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF REPEAL OF
IPAB, THE INDEPENDENT PAYMENT
BOARD, CREATED UNDER
OBAMACARE.
WE KNOW AND OUR COLLEAGUES ON
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE,
MANY OF THEM KNOW THAT THIS IS
THE MOST EGREGIOUS PART OF THIS
2,700-PAGE PIECE OF LEGISLATION
WHICH IS NOW THE LAW OF THE
LAND.
BUT WHAT IT IS, MR. CHAIRMAN,
IPAB IS THEIR WAY OF SAVING
MEDICARE.
I'LL ASK THEM TIME AFTER TIME,
WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TO SAVE
MEDICARE?
THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS.
ALL THEY WANT TO DO IS CONTINUE
TO CRITICIZE OUR SIDE OF THE
AISLE WHEN WE HAVE MEANINGFUL,
THOUGHTFUL PLANS TO SAVE AND
PROTECT AND STRENGTHEN NOT JUST
FOR THESE CURRENT RECIPIENTS
UNDER THE MEDICARE PROGRAM,
THOSE WHO ARE SENIORS, THOSE WHO
ARE DISABLED, BUT ALSO OUR
CHILDREN AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN.
WHAT DO WE GET FROM THIS SIDE OF
THE AISLE, FROM THE DEMOCRATIC
SIDE?
WE GET IPAB.
SAYS NO RATIONING
YET THE PROVISIONS CALL FOR
CUTTING REIMBURSEMENTS TO
PROVIDERS AND EVENTUALLY WITHOUT
QUESTION, JUST AS IT HAS IN
CANADA, IN THE U.K., MR.
CHAIRMAN, THAT LEADS TO DENIAL
OF CARE AND IF THAT'S NOT
RATIONING I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT
IS.
LET ME IN THE REMAINING PART OF
MY TIME SPEAK A LITTLE BIT IN
REGARD TO H.R. 5, THE HEALTH
ACT, THE MEDICAL LIABILITY
REFORM ACT.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM IOWA, THE
TRIAL ATTORNEY, WAS JUST UP HERE
TRYING TO IMPLY THAT WE WOULD
TAKE AWAY A PERSON'S RIGHT TO A
REDRESS OF THEIR GRIEVANCES IF
THEY HAD BEEN INJURED BY A
MEDICAL PROVIDER OR HEALTH CARE
FACILITY BECAUSE OF PRACTICE
BELOW THE STANDARD OF CARE.
I YIELD THE GENTLEMAN
ANOTHER MINUTE.
THE GENTLEMAN IS
RECOGNIZED.
I THANK THE
GENTLEMAN.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM IOWA KNOWS IN
FACT THAT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT