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Mr. Gibbs: Yes, ma'am.
The Press: A couple of campaign-related questions.
Two weeks from Election Day.
In the President's appearances this week and next week,
are we going to hear anything new in his message,
or has he really solidified the message going forward?
Mr. Gibbs: I think you'll continue to hear the President make a very strong
and affirmative case for continuing to move the country
forward and the perils of what it means to go back.
That's I think been the basis of his message for quite a while.
I think you'll continue to hear that.
The Press: So we're not going to see him try to roll out another message?
Okay. And then, looking at this Western swing,
Boxer and Reid and Murray -- those are candidates that the
President has been campaigning for,
pretty frequently the First Lady is, Biden has.
What is it about those three races that has the
White House so interested?
Mr. Gibbs: They're all important races.
They're important votes in the Senate; they're important races.
The President knows each one of them from his work and their
work in the Senate and is anxious to go out and campaign
for all three of them.
The Press: Does the President feel like he can be more effective in those
states than in states like Arkansas or West Virginia?
Mr. Gibbs: Look, the President, if you look at -- has campaigned in states
throughout the country.
Just this past weekend we were in Ohio.
I think people tend to forget that before Governor Patrick
there was 16 years of Republican governors in the state of
Massachusetts -- not exactly easy gubernatorial territory,
at least in the recent past, for Democrats.
So the President is going to go and hit a lot of places;
the Vice President, the First Lady,
they'll all hit important races as we head into -- head to the
finish of the campaign season.
The Press: Is there anything you can tell us about his schedule for next
week, what states he'll be hitting?
Mr. Gibbs: Not yet. Not yet.
The Press: Robert, is the White House concerned that some banks are
lifting their foreclosure freezes too soon?
Mr. Gibbs: Well, as you saw in the statement that I put out,
there is an ongoing process through FHA -- started before
this round of stories -- where we had concerns and wanted to
ensure that services are complying fully with the
laws of this country.
Tomorrow, at HUD, there's a meeting of regulators,
including Secretary Donovan, Secretary Geithner,
Tom Perrelli from the Justice Department -- to talk through
sort of where we are on our look at this process.
And that process, again, as I said,
is -- will continue over the course of
the next several weeks.
The Press: You mentioned your statement this morning.
Was that -- the reason for your sending that fueled by any
concern about this lifting of freezes happening too quickly?
Mr. Gibbs: Well, again, we are -- our concern has been in ensuring
that the process adequately complies with the law.
That's what led FHA to get involved in this.
That's what's led the Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force to
be involved in this process, as well as our support for 50 state
attorneys general ensuring, again, compliance with the law.
That is -- obviously that's tremendously important
in this process.
We have talked about, over the past week or so,
the danger that we see in, though,
halting the entire housing market and the danger that it
would provide -- or potentially provide writ large and its
effect on the economy.
The Press: I guess it's still not clear to me if you think it's -- are they
lifting these freezes too soon, or is that not a concern?
Mr. Gibbs: Well, again, that is a -- we are looking at their process
in order to determine their compliance with the law.
Obviously they have certain requirements under the law that
have to be met, and if they're not meeting those requirements
they certainly can face fines from us and they can face legal
action from homeowners.
The Press: Did the President discuss this with Secretary Geithner in their
meeting today?
Mr. Gibbs: I don't know if this came up specifically.
My guess is it likely did.
The President's economic daily briefing centered on this last
week and there have certainly been meetings with Secretary
Donovan and others around this.
The Press: Is the President talking to any of his friends and contacts in
the banking industry about this?
Mr. Gibbs: Not that I'm aware of, no.
The Press: In a new ABC News/Yahoo News poll,
55 percent of the American people say the Tea Party
candidates can effectively bring about major changes in
the way government operates.
How did the President and the Democrats lose
the mantle of change?
Mr. Gibbs: Well, I think if you're talking about repealing the minimum wage
that would be significant change.
I think if you're talking about questioning the validity of
whether Social Security should happen,
or whether there should be a Department of Education -- I
think that all qualifies significant change.
The Press: I said "effectively bring about major change" --
Mr. Gibbs: That would effectively bring about major change.
Jake, I'd have to look more closely at what the poll says.
This is not necessarily in relation to the Tea Party,
but I think there continues to be a frustration with the pace
of our economic recovery, based largely on the fact that,
as I've said before, the hole that we're in is huge.
The number of jobs that we lost -- 8 million or so jobs -- the
number of jobs we lost leading up to the last election is a
significant amount.
The Press: And one other thing.
Later this week, the administration is going
to release a report on women in the economy,
at the same time President Obama will be campaigning for two
embattled women senators -- Murray and Boxer.
Is there a relation between the two?
Mr. Gibbs: Well, no, I think obviously we are -- the President has been
focused throughout this administration on our economic
recovery, on ensuring that businesses have the credit
they need to expand.
I think this is just a continuation of that concern
and demonstrating what can and should be done
to fix our economy.
The Press: At these monthly AfPak meetings -- and the President will have
one again tomorrow -- is this a chance to tweak the strategy in
that region, or is it more of a comprehensive update
for the President?
Mr. Gibbs: I hesitate to say what the meeting would involve since
the meeting is tomorrow -- in terms of its update.
I think the President gets from -- both a military and
diplomatic update on a weekly basis from that region of the
world, and as you said, a monthly secure video
teleconference with many of the same players,
to go about the developments in that region and to discuss where
we are in several of our goals, including -- and I'm sure the
President will get, as he does, a regular update on where we are
in our goals at training a Afghan national security force,
both a police and an army.
So I'd have a better sense of the tweaking part of that
question after tomorrow's meeting.
The Press: But do these meetings -- since he does have these weekly
updates as well, I'm trying to get a sense of what kind
of weight is given to these meetings that he has monthly.
Is it broader? Is it more comprehensive?
Mr. Gibbs: I would say this, Dan, without getting into a lot of specifics
for a highly classified meeting, there are -- obviously there's
a broader perspective and then there's granularity as you go
through and as commanders and our diplomatic representatives
go through developments on the ground in different
parts of the country.
The President, as I said, gets that weekly -- gets a fairly
thick weekly update as well as this monthly teleconference.
And depending on the range of issues that are confronting the
situation, again, it can be very granular,
it can be -- I'd anticipate that at some point it would be very
granular, and at some points you'd be much
more at 30,000 feet.
The Press: Is the White House satisfied with what Pakistan is doing to
go after the insurgency in its own country?
Mr. Gibbs: Well, obviously there's a Pakistani delegation here to
continue the regular strategic dialogues that were begun in
the spring of 2009.
I think we see an unprecedented level of cooperation from the
Pakistanis in taking on insurgents,
because we understand, unlike in the past,
it's now in our mutual well-being to do so.
That having been said, then, throughout this process and
throughout these meetings this week,
there will be opportunities for us to detail for the Pakistanis
what more must be done.
And that was clear in the report that was sent to Congress and
that's been clear in our statements about our
relationship with Pakistan.
The Press: And one more question, on Bill Clinton.
I know last week you talked about how he's been able to go
to some of these areas with a much smaller footprint than the
President would if he traveled.
But when you look at what his effectiveness might be for the
midterm elections, how do you rate that?
Mr. Gibbs: I think he is an effective voice for the Democratic Party.
I think he's an effective voice for the steps that this
administration has had to take to rescue the economy,
to put ourselves back on a stable financial footing.
Look, he's a tremendous advocate.
The Press: Robert, what prompted the statement on foreclosures today?
Mr. Gibbs: We got a lot of interest off of what was going on with the
process around Bank of America.
The Press: Is the President hearing from Speaker Pelosi or Majority
Leader Reid saying what about a moratorium nationally?
Mr. Gibbs: Well, again, we have -- there have obviously, Mark,
been calls to do -- to freeze the process.
Again, our concern has been what that effect is for the housing
market in a broader sense.
Take a state like Florida.
About a little more than a third of the housing transactions that
are going on right now are individuals who are purchasing
long-foreclosed, previously foreclosed homes.
That's in many places what is beginning to spur a housing
recovery in places that have been hit extremely hard with
the housing crisis and the great dip in housing prices,
which obviously leads to people being underwater
in their mortgage and the economy, writ large,
in its ability -- in their ability to make those payments.
So our concern with that moratorium is that a process
that has followed all aspects of the law and is in the midst
of a contract to purchase that from somebody else,
that process is frozen, too.
We believe that, as I said in the statement,
all servicers must comply with the law;
they'll be held accountable if they don't.
But at the same time, we see the downsides of what
a moratorium could do to the larger housing market.
The Press: And what about the timing of the Hispanic education announcement
today, coming two weeks before the midterms?
Is there anything political in that?
Mr. Gibbs: No, I mean, look, this is a renewal of an executive order
on -- the dropout rate in the Latino community is something
that's been talked about for quite some time.
And our efforts to ensure that we're doing all that we can as
efficiently and effectively to address it and the other
educational issues are done because it's the right thing
to do, not because of the political calendar.
The Press: Robert, what does it mean to the President,
to the White House agenda, to retain control -- Democratic
control in the Senate?
Mr. Gibbs: Well, look, I think that we are -- I think we have a common --
we have a sense of what has to happen over the course of the
next couple years.
We have to continue our economic recovery.
The President outlined in the past month or so ideas for
cutting taxes on businesses as it relates to expensing and new
purchases, our investments in construction and infrastructure
that are tremendously important to getting things going.
We understand that we have to take a look and deal with our
midterm and long-term financial picture.
We have to implement the important reforms in both health
care and in Wall Street reform.
That is going to happen regardless of -- needs
to happen regardless of the makeup of either body in the
next two years.
The Press: You took some heat in July for a prediction about the election --
Mr. Gibbs: I didn't make a prediction in July.
The Press: Well, I guess you suggested the possibility that the Republicans
could take control.
Mr. Gibbs: Right.
The Press: So there's not a change of heart in terms of your analysis?
Mr. Gibbs: I think if you look back in the days after that,
I said the same thing.
The Press: Is the President surprised that some of these Western
races are tight?
Mr. Gibbs: No, I don't -- again, I think we're -- I said this on Sunday
as well -- I think the political environment mainly is driven
because of our economic environment.
We're at 9.6 unemployment.
We've seen 8 million people lose their jobs.
We've been dealing with a housing crisis for several
years -- all of which we're making progress on.
The housing market largely stabilized;
nine months of private sector job growth.
We're moving in the right direction.
I think that's the President's message out on the campaign
trail because that's what we see as the facts on the ground.
The Press: The Kentucky Senate race has gotten kind of nasty over a
campaign ad about Rand Paul's religion when he was in college.
Does the President think it's time to move on from digging
into people's religion, particularly in their youth?
Mr. Gibbs: I've not talked to him -- I've not seen the ad;
I've not talked to the President about the ad.
The Press: You guys have proposed a $250 emergency payment to seniors
because there's no cost of living adjustment to this
year from Social Security.
I was just wondering -- I mean, the reason Social Security
didn't enact another COLA is because the cost of living
didn't go up, so I just wonder how you justify spending --
Mr. Gibbs: Look, we've seen an economy that has seen the savings of seniors,
as a result of investments, change dramatically.
The Press: Is $250 going to help with that, though?
Mr. Gibbs: I think it did when we did it in the Recovery Act,
just like I think it did with Make Work Pay,
and I think would make a difference in the lives
of seniors now, yes.
The Press: You mentioned the Making Work Pay tax cut,
which obviously was about a third of the stimulus for
these tax cuts --
Mr. Gibbs: Right -- Making Work Pay was, if my math is correct,
about $40 [billion] of the $290 billion or so in tax cuts, yes.
The Press: Okay. So you got these tax cuts in the stimulus.
Our poll, for example, continually shows people
don't think health care is a good idea.
I wonder if you feel any responsibility that Democrats
are fighting so hard in these races and a lot of them,
frankly, losing because of a failure to communicate on some
of these policies, in particular,
a lot of people not even knowing, for example,
or realizing that they got a tax cut.
Mr. Gibbs: Well, again, because in some of these places you may have states
and localities that have raised property taxes or
raised different taxes in order to deal with budget
gaps and budget deficits.
In terms of Making Work Pay -- we modeled Making Work Pay
differently than tax cuts that had been done previously where
one check was mailed out.
And when people get one check, they realize this
is all we're getting.
And in terms of that, it's harder to get that money
back into the economy.
If people get it spread out in a consistent way -- and we know
from economic data that people tend to spend that money -- that
was the point of that tax cut.
The Press: Could that have been explained better?
I mean, it's more of a political question as opposed to the
substantive reasons why you designed it that way.
Mr. Gibbs: No, we did it based on the substance of wanting to get
the economy moving again.
Look, we've seen just in the last couple of days a fairly
prominent Republican pollster -- you mentioned health care --
discuss why it's not such a good idea to talk about repealing
health care reform.
The seniors that got checks to start beginning to close the
doughnut hole, something that was left as part of the
prescription drug act that was passed in the early 2000s;
that people up to 26 can stay on their parent's insurance;
that for the first time they're making decisions -- families are
making decisions that are not at the mercy of a child that's
sick, getting kicked off of their own health care --
I think those are issues that make a real difference
in people's lives.
The Press: You've spoken numerous times about the Republican failures
to reach -- to work with you on various issues.
Given -- looking ahead to next year,
are you considering at all what the White House -- if the White
House needs a different approach in working with Republicans?
Mr. Gibbs: Well, look, we will continue to reach out to those on the other
side of the aisle to get things done on behalf of
the American people.
We will -- I did see I think it was an ABC poll that
demonstrated that the President -- the American people view the
President as having, by about a two-to-one margin,
a willingness to work with others to solve problems.
The same poll shows that by a two-to-one margin,
Republicans in Congress are not seen that way.
So I think the actions of the Republican Party in deciding not
to be part of helping on economic recovery -- despite the
fact that they have on occasion asked to be part of the spending
on economic recovery -- not doing anything on Wall Street
reform and things like that, I think regardless of the outcome
of the elections, people are going to -- voters will expect
that the two parties will work together to solve their problems.
That's what they expected after 2006, after 2008.
And that's, I think, what they're likely to expect
after 2010.
The Press: You've just explained how you guys have done such a
good job at that.
So my question is whether given voter expectations,
you think that you should continue approaching it the
same way that you have or whether the White House needs
to change anything?
Mr. Gibbs: I think we will continue to reach out to the other side of
the aisle to solve the problems that the American people most
want us to address.
You'll have to ask Mitch McConnell,
who stated quite clearly that the strategy was not
to cooperate and to say no.
You'll have to ask John Boehner, who -- as I have used the
example before -- put out the statement opposing the stimulus,
as the President was about to load the motorcade to go
to Capitol Hill to talk to the Republican Caucus about
the Recovery Act.
The Press: Just a quick thing, coming off that.
How do you see this changing with this influx of -- I mean,
you've acknowledged that Republicans are going to
win seats and a lot of them are going to be Tea Party candidates.
Mr. Gibbs: I don't want to get in the business of what the makeup is.
I think that even as you look at voter preferences,
looking underneath the numbers, people are -- people want the
two sides to work together.
They want us to address the issues that they face.
You look back at, let's say, 1994,
and if you look at the standing -- just look at the standing of
the Republican Party leading into 1994 and leading into 2010,
then you have a fairly stark difference in how
the party is viewed.
And I think that's because the Republican Party has through its
political strategy not offered a series of alternative ideas.
They've just said no.
The Press: But do you think that's going to get better?
You have the President's re-elect in 2012 --
Mr. Gibbs: I do, because I think --
The Press: -- you have a lot of moderate -- or the Republican senators
who are dealmakers are going to be up.
Mr. Gibbs: I think the message from voters will be that we want people to
solve problems.
The Press: You say that again and again, but you -- I've asked this
question to you before and you don't take any responsibility
for any of the problems.
You think it's a hundred percent on the Republican side.
So how is that solving problems in Washington?
Mr. Gibbs: No, no. I think when you asked me this question last week,
I said, I am not up here to say we've done a hundred percent of
the things that we've done perfectly.
The Press: What is something that you haven't done right?
Mr. Gibbs: But, Laura, this is -- there are two lanes between here and
the Capitol, one that goes this way and one that goes that way.
When we were loading up the motorcade to go that way,
the statement was coming this way.
I think it was with The New York Times, Mitch McConnell said,
our strategy was to simply say no to everything.
Am I surprised that there hasn't been massive political
cooperation when the leaders of both parties have told
newspaper reporters that their strategy is to say
no to everything?
No. I'm not that naïve. I can read.
That was their strategy and it's been pulled
off very effectively.
That's why people don't have a great reverence
for that political party.
The Press: Robert, a few minutes ago you said that you have a sense of
what has to happen in the future here.
To what extent have you all been planning for the various midterm
course correction scenarios that are going to happen in
a couple of weeks?
Mr. Gibbs: In what way?
The Press: Well, to what extent has the White House been gaming,
been planning how it's going to respond if the Republicans take
control of the House, if they make big gains in the Senate?
Mr. Gibbs: I have not been and I don't know of a massive number of
meetings on that.
I think, Peter, we've been focused on what we have to
do at hand.
There will be time for that later.
The Press: So you're going to wait until --
Mr. Gibbs: Well, again, there's -- it's not as if there aren't plenty
of things to do in the next two weeks.
The Press: What's the point of having a trigger for cost-of-living
increases for Social Security if every time that trigger isn't
met the money just goes out anyway?
Mr. Gibbs: Well, take into account the economic situation that we're
in and understand, as I said earlier,
that we've seen what happens and we've seen what has happened to
people's life savings, to their investments,
and to the struggles that they've had in this economy.
Our belief was that this is still something that is needed,
and that's why it was proposed.
The Press: How closely is the administration involved
in these regulatory reviews for foreclosures,
as far as if something arises that might need a policy remedy?
Mr. Gibbs: Well, again, we've had fairly regular meetings here.
We have -- like I said, the President spent time
specifically on this within the past week,
even as FHA has several weeks ago begun looking
into that process.
We will -- as these evaluation process,
these investigations conclude, we'll see what those show.
Look, I would be remiss if I didn't mention that some of this
will ultimately fall under the role of the Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau, an office that if we roll back Wall
Street reform, won't exist.
I think that's important as we move forward,
in ensuring that we have a voice that's on the side of consumers
in this process.
The Press: Robert, two questions.
Twice in recent weeks, the President has quoted from the
Declaration of Independence and has omitted the Declaration's
reference to rights "endowed by their Creator."
Why did he omit this part of the declaration?
Mr. Gibbs: I haven't seen the comments, Lester,
but I can assure you the President believes in the
Declaration of Independence.
The Press: In his interview with Rolling Stone, the President --
Mr. Gibbs: Are you a subscriber, Lester?
The Press: No, no.
(laughter)
Mr. Gibbs: Thought he might be slightly --
The Press: In his interview with Rolling Stone,
the President called FOX News "destructive to the country."
And my question: Does he also believe that talk radio is
destructive to the country, or is it only FOX News?
Mr. Gibbs: I don't remember the exact quote of the President's, Lester,
but speech is obviously important in this country but
facts involved in that speech are equally important as we
enter into these political debates.
I think that's what his objection largely has been.
The Press: A federal judge in California has made it clear she's not
going to -- probably -- uphold the stay of the injunction of
"don't ask, don't tell," and the President said recently that
"don't ask, don't tell" will end on his watch.
Is he, or will he, put pressure on Harry Reid -- Senate Majority
Leader Harry Reid to push for a vote during a lame
duck session, one.
And two, depending on what happens after the midterms,
how does the President see ending "don't ask,
don't tell" if he has diminished majorities
or no Democratic control?
Mr. Gibbs: Well, first and foremost, in terms of -- the process
obviously with the judge will render on her own ruling.
That then likely goes to a three-judge panel to consider.
And we're certainly monitoring developments,
as is the Department of Justice.
The President believes that the policy will end under his watch
precisely because in the defense authorization bill pending in
the Senate is a provision that would repeal what the President
believes is unjust, what the President
believes is discriminatory.
It's passed the House.
The President will push for defense authorization to be
passed containing that provision when the Senate comes back for
the lame duck.
We have obviously a lot of important business
in that legislation.
The repeal of "don't ask, don't tell" is certainly
one of those aspects.
My sense is if you can get through a filibuster -- and
again, everything takes 60 votes these days -- that there are a
majority of U.S. senators that believe, as the President does,
that this policy isn't right and that it harms
our national security.
So the President will work during the lame duck to ensure
that that bill is passed and that what's passed the House
and what's passed in the Senate can end up on his
desk for his signature.
But again, I think if we can get passed the procedural hurdles,
that a majority of the U.S. Senate believes as the President
does that it is time for this policy to change.
The courts have -- the courts in a number of different instances
out West have determined that the lifespan of this policy is
coming to its natural end.
I think that that was recognized in the House.
I think it will be recognized in the Senate and the bill --
the law will be repealed.
The Press: Can I follow?
If the President believes that, then why doesn't he
repeal it now?
Is he just waiting until after the election?
Mr. Gibbs: Well, we can't repeal it now because, one,
the Senate is not here.
Remember, the law that was passed in the early '90s does
not give the power to repeal the law to the Commander-in-Chief.
It's a congressional action that can only be durably repealed
through another legislative action.
I think the President was asked last Thursday at the town hall,
why not simply sign an executive order like Harry Truman.
The law that was passed, I guess in 1993,
does not afford for executive action to remove the law.
The Press: Well, where does the Justice Department stand on --
Mr. Gibbs: Well, again, as we said last week,
we believe the law should be repealed and we believe that,
as the Pentagon studies a process for an orderly
transition, that we think will come to pass in repeal
of the law.
The Press: Did the judge nullify the law?
Mr. Gibbs: Yes.
The Press: Well, then there is no law anymore.
Mr. Gibbs: Again, the earlier answer that I gave,
which is we believe that a process has to be put in process
for that orderly transition.
The Press: Since the Justice Department is officially appealing the case,
is it necessarily true that the President believes that "don't
ask, don't tell" is a constitutional law?
Mr. Gibbs: Again, I have enumerated for you the belief -- the President's
belief that it's unjust, it's discriminatory,
and that it harms our national security.
The Press: Well, you've never enumerated for us his belief on the
constitutionality of it.
Mr. Gibbs: I haven't.
The Press: I'm confused, though.
If it does end up in Congress under a filibuster,
would you guys force a filibuster?
Because you've never done that before.
Mr. Gibbs: Force a filibuster? I don't know what --
The Press: Where you actually -- you were saying that if it goes
-- if you can get through a filibuster, a Republican
filibuster in Congress.
You've never actually forced a filibuster before.
You've never vetoed or called the Republicans'
bluff on anything.
Mr. Gibbs: Well, maybe I'm confused at what you're --
The Press: -- if he doesn't have 60 votes.
Mr. Gibbs: Well, again, the President will work to try to get 60 votes --
The Press: But if he doesn't would he force a -- will you force the
Republicans to filibuster it?
Mr. Gibbs: The final passage of the bill?
Again, there has to be a vote to take -- it's in
the underlying bill.
It's in the base bill.
I think you can go back and find Republican quotes about the harm
of not passing a defense authorization bill in the
past and ensuring that we have the necessary resources for our
military to do what it needs to do.
The Press: Also, on the West Coast swing, I know you said that the White
House is focused on the task at hand,
not on looking at what happens after the elections.
What's your wish list then for the next few days as you go out
on this West Coast swing?
What does President Obama hope to accomplish?
Mr. Gibbs: Well, I think he hopes to accomplish what he did over the
weekend in Boston and in Ohio, in reminding -- reminding voters
what's at stake, who has their best interest in mind,
the steps that have been taken to get us out of the economic
hole that we found ourselves in, and to continue to move forward
on those policy decisions.
That's I think been the basis for what he has talked to voters
about over the past couple of weeks.
And I expect that that will continue tomorrow
and throughout the trip out West.
The Press: Robert, the Afghan-Pakistan meeting tomorrow,
is President Karzai going to be part of that teleconference?
Mr. Gibbs: No. He has never been a part of those monthly meetings, no.
I think on the guidance we'll put out the participants.
And they generally include -- they look a lot -- the roster
looks a lot like the Afghan policy review
meetings of last fall.
The Press: And to what extent is there going to be an assessment of the
peace feelers for the Taliban that we've been hearing about?
Mr. Gibbs: Reconciliation, led by the Afghans,
has been a topic of many of the past meetings.
I expect that we'll get an update from General Petraeus,
Ambassador Eikenberry, and others,
on where they see the progress on those talks and their hopes
for seeing that progress continue.
I anticipate, as in the past, that will
be a big topic tomorrow.
The Press: The New York Times has a story today that starts out with,
what if a President cut Americans' income taxes by $116
billion and nobody noticed?
They had a poll last month that said that fewer than one-in-10
Americans knew that this administration
had lowered taxes.
Why hasn't the administration been able to effectively
communicate that?
And, as you said, the President isn't changing his message.
Why not?
Mr. Gibbs: I'm apparently failing in effectively being able to
communicate that because I got that question like two rows ago.
(laughter)
So apparently, it's me.
I can't get the same answer through about
nine different people.
I'll try one more time to underscore my personal
ineffectiveness at communicating through an entire row of people
that we're in an economic situation that is unprecedented;
that as the federal government cut taxes and we saw the
economic impact of the Making Work Pay tax cut into the
paychecks of individuals, families that went on to
spend that money and increase consumer demand
and increase economic growth.
That's not to say that people aren't making a value decision
on their entire financial outlook,
or whether or not the state or the locality that they live in
had to raise taxes.
We could have mailed checks in bulk,
meaning -- when I mean "in bulk,"
I mean the entire amount out.
But economists found that when that happened in the past
administration, most people tended to save
and not spend that money.
Our hope was to get that money into the economy.
That's what has happened as a result of dividing
that tax cut up and putting it into people's paychecks.
The Press: Robert, thank you.
In the President's car/ditch/Slurpee metaphor
that he has been using --
(laughter)
-- he says that the idea here is that --
Mr. Gibbs: I would mention that, as Mark appropriately pointed out,
it now includes lattes.
The Press: -- the Republicans can ride along in the car,
but they have to sit in the backseat.
Is that language about firing up the base?
Or does the President --
Mr. Gibbs: No. We really mean they should sit in the back.
(laughter)
The Press: Or does the President believe that the Republicans --
Mr. Gibbs: Somebody else called "shotgun" and -- it's
a generational thing.
It didn't go in here.
(laughter)
The Press: I got it.
(laughter)
Mr. Gibbs: Only because that was in last week's Rolling Stone.
(laughter)
Go ahead. I'm sorry, Peter. Go ahead.
The Press: You funny man.
(laughter)
Mr. Gibbs: I try. I'll be here all weekend.
The Press: The President talked about the importance of reaching across
the aisle and you mentioned it today.
Is that kind of language conducive, though,
to a constructive bipartisan relationship,
when the President says they can come along,
but they got to sit in the backseat?
Mr. Gibbs: Well, look, Peter, I think the President has -- as I said
earlier, I think the President has, on issues big and small,
tried to work with and tried to offer opportunities for
Republicans to work with Democrats in coming up
with solutions for them.
We're in a campaign season now.
And I don't actually think the President thinks they're
drinking a lot of Slurpees -- sorry.
But I think the President uses it as a metaphor for the role
that Republicans have thus far played.
Look, as I said, we're hopeful that regardless of the outcome,
Republicans seek to participate in representative democracy.
That's what the voters demand.
I think that's what they'll hope to see,
regardless of the outcome of this election. George.
The Press: The President's campaign message,
though, does seem to be directed at Democrats.
Have you reached a conclusion that this is a base election and
the message should be directed at the base of the Democrats and
not to independents at this point?
Mr. Gibbs: Well, I think we are a point in the election where we normally
get to -- in every election where individuals are talking
to their voters and trying to get them fired up and trying
to get them out.
I think that's what the President is working on doing.
And I'd say -- I don't know who was on the trip on Sunday --
that seemed like a pretty big crowd to me.
The Press: The President is doing another backyard chat in Seattle.
I'm wondering how much have these backyard talks with,
you know, everyday voters influenced his agenda.
Is it changing like how he thinks or, you know --
Mr. Gibbs: Well, look, this is from -- dating back more than six years,
the President has done some form of -- I think you can call this
roughly a town hall meeting, where you hear directly from,
the concerns of, and the interests of voters in America.
He'll certainly continue to do that.
I think we hear the importance of cutting
taxes on small businesses.
We hear the importance of continuing our
education reforms.
We hear a lot of issues that are not just important to the
American people but important to this administration.
And we'll continue to pursue policies to ensure that we're
making good on the promises that the President made just a few
years ago running. April.
The Press: Robert, back on the midterms.
What constitutes a win and/or loss for the Democratic Party
on November 2nd?
Mr. Gibbs: I'm not going to play predictor, April.
We'll have plenty of time to talk about what the results are.
The Press: I'm really not asking you to play predictor.
I'm just asking you to define it,
because the way I understand it, there's a historic effort
in this midterm election season through the Democratic Party to
push for the base to get out to vote.
As I understand it, in years past it had not been done.
At least, the last 12 years it had not been done.
And with that push, this historic push,
there will be at least some -- there will be better than normal
anticipation that the numbers will be higher than they were
in the past.
So that's why I'm asking -- I'm not asking you to predict -- but
if there will be a little bit more movement than
before at least.
Mr. Gibbs: Look, I think that the efforts of the campaign committees and
the DNC particularly at helping to fund those campaign
committees has reached a level of help that hasn't been seen
certainly by those committees in any sort of recent memory.
The amount of technology that's being used,
the funds that go from the DNC, or leftover funds from the
President's campaign, directly to the campaign committees that
ultimately help campaigns is unprecedented.
We are -- the Democratic Party is working every day to increase
enthusiasm and, therefore, increase turnout as we get
closer to election.
The Press: Robert, on that note, do you expect that your base in certain
communities, particularly where there are more African
Americans, more youth, and maybe independents,
that you will see a higher than normal --
Mr. Gibbs: Well, look, as compared to 2008?
Look, I will say this, that there rarely are instances in
which -- the composition and the enthusiasm in a presidential
year is obviously always different in an off-year
election, by definition.
They're different in special elections.
It's our hope to take in these races a winning coalition and
put them together for the Democratic candidate.
That's not to say that these -- again,
the composition and the level -- we are not going to have as many
people vote in 2010 as we had in a presidential election simply
by definition of the fact that they're off-year elections.
Stephen.
The Press: Did the President agree with David Cameron's contention
last night in their phone call that the UK would still have a
first-rate military after the defense cuts?
I noticed that it wasn't -- it didn't say that he did during
the readout you put out.
Mr. Gibbs: I can certainly check the readout.
But I think that our view is that -- certainly that the level
of help and cooperation that we get and the sacrifice of that
country in places like Afghanistan is certainly
-- is vital and important to our coalition,
and that they will indeed continue to
have a first-rate military.
The Press: May I follow up, Robert?
Since that call, today Briton announced the defense budget
would fall 8 percent.
Is the President still confident,
knowing that now that troops, planes, tanks,
et cetera will be cut by that kind of figure?
Mr. Gibbs: Again, I think it's safe to assume that some discussions
prior to that phone call have led us to believe that indeed
the readiness and the capability of the British
military would continue.
The Press: Thank you.
The Press: In this busy campaign season, how is the President preparing
for his trip to India next month?
And what does he wants to achieve during his trip there?
Mr. Gibbs: Well -- and we'll have a chance to go through some of the
briefings on this in the days upcoming -- but look, obviously,
this is an important relationship.
It was the first state dinner that was held here.
I think that gives you the degree of understanding in
terms of the significance that this government and this
administration puts on that relationship.
We will have -- it's an important economic relationship.
It is -- which, again, we'll have a chance to go through.
So the President is involved in fairly regular meetings with the
national security team to ensure a successful visit not long
after the elections.
It's an important trip.
We understand -- look, just from a viewpoint economically,
we understand that -- we understand what we have
to do to create jobs, to grow our exports,
to ensure that it just doesn't fall on American consumers to
drive world demand.
That's a lot of what you'll hear the President talk about on that
trip, and we'll hopefully have some tangible results from it.
Thanks, guys.