Homekeepers - Bob and audrey meisner

OF THE CHRISTIAN TELEVISION NETWORK IN CLEARWATER, FLORIDA. ♪ MUSIC ♪ MUSIC ♪ MUSIC HI THERE, AND WELCOME AND WELCOME TO HOMEKEEPERS, AND HOW ARE YOU TODAY MY FRIEND? AND I HOPE THINGS ARE GOING WELL FOR YOU, AND I WANT TO WELCOME ALL OF YOU, AND IF YOU ARE A BRAND-NEW VIEWER, AND DON'T MAKE THIS THE LAST TIME THAT YOU JOIN US, AND FOR THE REGULAR ONES, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU MORE THAN MY VOCABULARY CAN SAY AND GOD BLESS YOU AND THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE FOR MANY GIVE YOU FOR A LONG TIME. I'M GOING TO BE HAVING A GOOD PROGRAM TODAY, AND I'M GOING TO BE SHOWING YOU AN INTERVIEW I DID FOR ANOTHER PROGRAM CALLED THE GOOD LIFE, AND THAT PROGRAM IS ONE HOUR LONG, AND I WILL BE SHOWING YOU THE INTERVIEW TODAY AND TOMORROW AND THE NEXT PROGRAM, AND THIS WAS BOB AND AUDREY MEISNER AND I HAVE BEEN IN THE MYSTERY, SINCE I WAS BORN, AND I HAVE NEVER HEARD A STORY LIKE THIS ONE, AND IF YOU HAVE EVER THOUGHT IT ARE SITUATIONS IN YOUR LIFE, THAT WOULD BE HOPELESS AND THAT IS NOT TRUE, AND IF YOU WILL GET ON BOARD WITH WHAT THE LORD WANTS YOU TO DO AND WHAT THE LORD SAYS IN THE WORD, AND YOU CAN HAVE A REALLY GOOD OUTCOME. AND SO, AS YOU MEET THE PEOPLE, AND I PRAY THAT YOU WILL JUST BE DETERMINED TO HEAR EVERYTHING THEY SAY TODAY AND TOMORROW, AND REJOICE WHEN IT IS ALL SAID AND DONE AND THE GOODNESS OF GOD AND HOW WE CAN TOTALLY MESS UP OUR LIVES, BUT HE CAN ALWAYS MORE THAN SALVAGE THEM AND HE GETS THE VICTORY AT THE VERY END, AND I'M GOING TO BE JOINING STEPHANIE. AND THIS IS EXCITING, AND GOING TO BE MAKING A SALAD. AND THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT. AND WERE GOING TO BE SPEAKING ABOUT THAT, AND I WANT TO REMIND YOU AND WE ARE VIEWER SUPPORTED, AND YOU GOOD PEOPLE AND WATCHING NOW AND YOU ARE THE ONES THAT WILL SUPPORT, AND HOW WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT THIS MONTH. AND I LOOKED AT THIS WAY, AND I TRUST THE HOLY SPIRIT TO REALLY TOUCH THE VIEWERS, AND I KNOW HE WILL, AND SO, AND I HOPE YOU WILL RESPOND TO THE PROMPTING AND THIS IS THE WAY IT WORKS, AND I WILL NOT PROMISE YOU MANY THINGS THAT ARE NOT IN THE BIBLE, AND WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR MORE THAN A DECADE, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE PEOPLE OF GOD WILL COME THROUGH, AND IF YOU WANT TO USE YOUR CREDIT CARD, THE TELEPHONE NUMBER IS ON YOUR SCREEN, AND YOU CAN WRITE TO ME AT MY PO BOX THAT IS ON YOUR SCREEN. AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT SO MUCH, AND I'M HERE WITH SISTER STEPHANIE AND HOW ARE YOU? >> HOW ARE YOU? >> GOOD. GOOD. AS LAST TIME, AND WE WERE TOGETHER AND SHE HAD A PICTURE OF HER SON SNORKELING, AND PROPOSING TO HIS GIRLFRIEND, AND I THINK THAT IS SO GOOD. >> I HAVE SEEN THE VIDEOS, AND PEOPLE DOING THAT AND YES, SURE. >> I DON'T GET AROUND ENOUGH. AND WHEN IT COMES TO A GOOD EGG SALAD, AND THIS ONE IS REALLY DIFFERENT AND TELL ME WHAT YOU USUALLY DO, AND MY MOTHER-IN-LAW COULD MAKE THIS GOOD. AND THIS IS JUST SOME EGGS, AND SOME INGREDIENTS, AND MAYBE SOME MUSTARD, AND THIS IS REALLY DIFFERENT AND WHAT DO YOU DO? >> AND I DO WHAT YOU SAID, AND MAYBE SOME CELERY, AND THE MAYONNAISE, AND A LOT OF MAYONNAISE. AND THIS IS GOING TO BE INTERESTING AND WE HAVE GOT SIX EGGS HERE, AND WE HAVE HARD-BOILED THESE, AND WE CAN SHOW YOU THINGS LIKE THIS. >> AND ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS, AND YOU CAN HAVE GOOD STUFF, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY, AND SOME PEOPLE THINK THEY HAVE TO HAVE MEAT AT EVERY MEAL. >> EGGS ARE SUCH A GREAT THING FOR YOU, AND IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT MAYBE 1000 EGGS, AND WHAT IS THAT, AND MAYBE $1.30 AND YOU CANNOT BEAT THAT, AND THAT WOULD BE BREAKFAST FOR MANY MEALS. >> AND WHEN I GO, AND MAYBE I WILL GO TO THE CRACKER BARREL, AND I WILL GET AN OMELETTE WITH THE EGG WHITES AND THAT IS THE PURE PROTEIN. AND THIS IS A SURPRISE HERE. >> AND YES, AND WE'VE GOT SOME BACON AND WE HAVE GOT THE TURKEY BACON. AND THEN WE HAVE THE GREEN ONIONS. AND I LIKE TO REMIND YOU, AND IF YOU HAVE THESE, AND THEN YOU PUT THEM IN THE WATER, AND I DO THIS ALL OF THE TIME AND ABLE TO GO BACK OUT. >> AND WE WANT TO DO THIS RIGHT HERE, NOW LET'S SEE WHAT YOU ARE DOING HERE, AND WE CAN SEE IF YOU ARE TELLING THE TRUTH. >> LAUGHTER. >> AND WE HAVE THE STOCK OF THE CELERY, AND THIS WILL BE CHOPPED UP, THEN WE HAVE THE LEMON PEPPERS AND THE DILL WEED. AND WE HAVE A LEMON PEPPERS, >> AND NOW LET'S NOT PUT THIS IN HERE THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE A LOT. >> AND WE DON'T WANT TO OVERDO THIS. >> AND THIS DOES NOT EVEN LOOK LIKE AN EGG SALAD. AND WE WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU. AND WE WILL BE TASTING THIS. AND I HAVE THESE, AND I PURCHASED THESE AT HOME, AND FOR MY HOME, AND THESE ARE FROM ARNOLD, AND THESE, AND LOOK HOW THIN THIS IS, THESE ARE SANDWICH THINS, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO TEAR THIS APART, AND YOU DON'T GET A LOT OF BREAD. >> AND YOU COULD MAKE SOME LITTLE PIZZA WITH THESE. >> AND YES, AND THESE ARE REALLY SO GOOD, AND ALL RIGHT. AND WE HAVE THE THIS CHILLING HERE. >> AND YOU CAN DEFINITELY TO GET THIS HERE AND THOSE FLAVORS CAN GET MARRIED. >> ALL RIGHT, THAT YOU TRY THIS. >> ALL RIGHT, GIVE ME A FORK AND I WANT TO TASTE THIS, AND WE BROUGHT THIS ALONG, AND DO YOU THINK MOST OF THE PEOPLE WOULD MAKE SANDWICHES OUT OF THIS? AND YOU COULD GET A FORK. >> AND YOU CAN TELL ME WHAT TO DO. >>.... >>.... >> THIS IS GOOD. >> IS IT GOOD? >> AND MAYBE, AND I WOULD MAYBE USE SOME LESS DRESSING. >> DO YOU LIKE THAT? >> AND YOU DO NOT WANT THIS RECIPE. >> YOU KNOW, I THINK I WOULD DO LESS OF THE DILL WEED. >> AND IF YOU DO WANT THIS. >> AND IF YOU LIKE THE DILL WEED AND YOU WANTED THIS. >> AND I THINK, I THINK I WOULD GET THE FRESH INGREDIENTS. >> AND THAT WOULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. >> I WILL BE HAVING SOME OF THIS FOR THE LUNCHTIME TODAY. AND THIS IS PRETTY GOOD, AND THIS IS NOT REALLY GREAT, AND IF YOU WANT THE RECIPE AND SOME PEOPLE MIGHT WANT IT, AND THE INFORMATION IS COMING UP ON YOUR SCREEN AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE INTERVIEW THAT I DID WITH BOB AND AUDREY MEISNER AND NOTHING LIKE IT AND I HOPE THAT YOU CAN SEE EVERY SINGLE MINUTE OF IT. >> AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE A COPY OF TODAY'S RECIPE PLEASE SEND YOUR REQUEST ALONG ♪ AND NOW IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU, BOB AND AUDREY MEISNER. >> THIS IS SUCH AN HONOR TO BE HERE. >> I SAW YOU A FEW YEARS AGO. AND EVEN THEN, I WAS RIVETED TO THE TV, AND NOW, AND I KNOW MORE OF THE DETAILS AND I WANT TO THE VIEWERS TO HEAR YOUR STORY. AND I WANT TO GO AND YOU FELL IN LOVE WHEN YOU WERE VERY YOUNG AT A VERY YOUNG AGE. AND THEN YOU CAME FROM AND AN IMPECCABLE BACKGROUND AND WONDERFUL CHRISTIAN PARENTS. AND I DON'T REMEMBER YOURS AND YOUR FATHER WAS A CHRISTIAN FAMILY? >> AND YES, AND WE WERE, AND YOUR PEDIGREE WAS PERFECT. >> AND THE HOLY SPIRIT FAMILY. >> AND SO, EVERYTHING SHOULD HAVE THE PERFECT. >> AND EVERYBODY GETS MARRIED, WITH THAT IN MIND, AND NOBODY GETS MARRIED TO FIGHT, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TROUBLE, I MEAN, YOU WANT TO HAVE THE PERFECT LIFE AND THIS IS THE WAY WE WATCHED IN 1984. AND FOR YOUR COURTSHIP, AND YOU WERE CAREFUL AND YOU WANTED TO KEEP THIS ABOVEBOARD, AND TO BE HONORING A MARRIAGE. >> AND WE LOVED GOD, I CANNOT SAY, THIS IS ANOTHER PROGRAM AND I WILL LEAVE THAT. >> WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT. >> AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT, AND WE CAN SPEAK ABOUT THAT, AND THAT WOULD BE OUR NEXT BOOK. >> WHEN WILL YOU BE BACK? >> AND THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER BOOK. >> AND WHAT WE LOVE SO MUCH, AND WE BOTH HAD A HUGE DESIRE TO CHANGE THE WORLD, AND THIS WAS SO ATTRACTIVE IN EACH OF US, AND WE JUST WANTED TO LIVE OUR LIVES FOR GOD, AT WHATEVER COST. AND THIS IS WHAT WE WERE WANTING TO DO. >> I WOULD SAY, YOU ARE CHANGING THE WORLD BUT YOU TOOK A DIFFERENT PATHWAY. ALL RIGHT, TELL US WHAT HAPPENED, YOU BEEN MARRIED FOR 17 YEARS, AND ALWAYS FAITHFUL, AND I THANK YOU SHOCKED YOURSELF, AND THEN YOU FOUND YOURSELF IN A SITUATION THAT WAS UNFAITHFUL. >> I DID NOT THINK I WAS IN LINE FOR THAT, AND I LOVE JESUS AND MY HUSBAND AND MY CHILDREN, AND WE WERE VERY BUSY, AND I THINK, YOU NEED TO BE AWARE, WHEN YOU ARE SO BUSY, AND I WAS NOT IN TOUCH WITH MY HEART, AND WHEN A YOUNG GUY PAID ATTENTION TO ME, AND HE TOLD ME I WAS BEAUTIFUL, AND THAT FELT SO GOOD, AND I THANK YOU FOR NOTICING, AND MY HEART SAID, I WANT TO BE WITH HIM MORE. AND WHAT I DID NOT KNOW, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SMALL COMPROMISE, I GOT A VERY ADDICTED TO THE RELATIONSHIP, AND I THOUGHT I COULD CONTROL IT, AND WHEN YOU HAVE A FRIENDSHIP WITH THE OPPOSITE SEX, AND THAT HE BECAME ***, AND THAT THEN TURNED EVERYTHING AROUND. >> AND THERE IS ANOTHER PROGRAM RIGHT THERE, AND DO SUFFICE IT TO SAY, AND WHEN YOU FIND YOURSELF IN A SITUATION AND WHERE AND IN SOMEBODY'S ATTENTION BEGINS TO FEEL GOOD, AND IF YOU ARE A CHILD OF GOD, THAT SHOULD BE A RED FLAG. AND MAYBE LIKE LEAVING A FLAG IN FRONT OF A BULL. >> AND WHY DO PEOPLE PARTICIPATE WITH THESE RELATIONSHIPS? AND WHY DO THEY PARTICIPATE WITH SIN AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND THE REASON IS THIS AND THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD GET A GREATER BENEFIT BY PARTICIPATING, RATHER THAN NOT. AND THE WHOLE THING IS, AND FROM A RELIGIOUS STANDPOINT, AND THEY CAN DO MANIPULATE AND CONTROL IT, AND THEY WILL JUST GO SO FAR. >> I KNOW MY BOUNDARIES. >> AND THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SMALL COMPROMISE, AND THERE IS THE CONDITIONING OF THE HEART, AND WHAT WE ARE INVOLVED IN, AND THE ENEMY WILL SET YOU UP FOR A TRAP, AND WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOU WOULD NEVER DO AND WHAT YOU COULD NEVER DO, AND MAYBE THINKING ABOUT IT, AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW YOU ARE ENSLAVED, AND HOW DID YOU GET THERE? THAT DID NOT HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, AND YOU HAVE THE PRECONDITIONING OF THE HEART OVER TIME. AND THIS IS WHY COMPROMISE AND THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SMALL ONE. >> AND YOU ARE NO BATTLE FOR THE ADVERSARY, AND WHEN YOU OPENED THE DOOR. >> AND YOU KNOW WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, AND I LOOK BACK, AND WHEN DID THAT START? AND WHEN I WOULD PUT ON MY MAKE UP, AND I WANTED THEM TO NOTICE HOW GOOD I LOOKED, AND I LOOK BACK, AND MAYBE SOMEBODY LISTENING, AND THEY ARE HOPING SOMEBODY WILL NOTICE, OR THEY WANT THE PHONE CALL OR THE EMAIL, AND YOU NEED TO STOP, AND YOU HAVE CROSSED THE LINE. I SAY THAT OUT OF LOVE, AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO GO THROUGH THE PAIN I WENT THROUGH. >> AND YOU FELT, AND SO, AND HE BECAME AN AFFAIR. >> IT WAS A SHORT TRIP AND YES ABSOLUTELY. >> AND THEN YOU HAD A COMPULSION, AND YOU HAD TO CONFESS. >> AND WHEN THIS BECAME ***, I BROKE IT OFF AND MY HEART SAID, AND YOU MUST TELL BOB, I WAS SCARED OUT OF MY MIND, AND I WANTED TO KEEP MY SECRET AND FOR NOBODY TO KNOW, AND THE ENEMY LOVE SECRETS, AND HE WANTS TO BRING DIVISION, AND EVENTUALLY, IT WOULD COME OUT AND I KNEW, AND I HAD TO TELL BOB. >> IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN DESCRIBE THE PAIN? >> YES. I CAN. >> OVERLAPPING CONVERSATION. >> AND THE GUYS ARE USUALLY GUILTY. >> AND I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PAIN AND I REMEMBER THE MOMENT VERY WELL, AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH SHOCK, AND NOT KNOWING WHAT TO DO, AND YOU WANT TO TRY TO CONTROL THE SITUATION. AS WELL, AND THE OTHER THING, AND THIS WAS NOT BE SOMETHING THAT SHE COULD GET AWAY WITH, AND WE HAD TO DEAL WITH IT. AND BEING A PASTOR, AND A LEADER IN THE COMMUNITY, AND NOT KNOWING WHAT TO DO AND I WENT TO MY OFFICE, I WILL TELL EVERYBODY AND WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, AND EVERY TIME THIS IS WHAT YOU DO, AND YOU ASK GOD. AND WHAT WE DO, AND IN OUR OWN INTELLECT, AND IN THE STRENGTH OF OUR EXPERIENCES AND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TAUGHT, AND OUR EGO WILL TRY TO PRESERVE YOURSELF AND THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO DO. AND THIS IS WHAT SHE DID TO ME, I WAS THE INNOCENT ONE. AND WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS TO EXPOSE HER, AND SHAME HER, AND THIS IS WAS HOW I THOUGHT I COULD CONTROL THIS OKAY? AND THEN I COULD HAVE HER FIXED, AND SHE WAS THE PROBLEM. I WENT TO THE PROBLEM AND I HOLY SPIRIT AND WHAT DO I DO?, AND HE SAID TO ME IMMEDIATELY, AND THERE HAD BEEN A GUEST WE HAD A YEAR OR SO PRIOR, AND I WAS TO CALL HIM AND I CALLED HIM, AND HE SAID, AND HE SAID, BOB WHO KNOWS? I SAID, NOBODY KNOWS, AND WE WANTED TO KEEP IT THAT WAY, AND I WANTED TO GO SCREAMING, AND I WANTED EVERYBODY INVOLVED. YES. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, AND WHEN IT IS A PASTOR IN THE MINISTRY, IT IS FAR MORE COMPLICATED, AND IT IS PAINFUL AND COMPLICATED. >> AND YOU AFFECT SO MANY PEOPLE. >> AND YOU MUST GET HELP, AND YOU THINK YOU CAN MANAGE IT, AND NO, YOU NEED TO GET HELP, AND HE CAME ALONG, AND HE SAID, AND HE BEGAN TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PRINCIPLE OF THE COVERING, AND THERE ARE TWO PRIMARY PRINCIPLES AND TO PROTECT, AND THE OTHER IS TO PROMOTE HEALING, AND GOD WANTS TO PROTECT US AND PROMOTE HEALING, AND HE BEGAN TO CHALLENGE ME WITH A FATHER'S HEART. AND YOU WILL YOU BEGIN TO TREAT YOUR WIFE THE WAY GOD IT TREAT YOU? AND WHEN DID YOU MAKE A MISTAKE? AND THAT THE LORD, SAID, I WILL EXPOSE YOU TO EVERYBODY? BUT NO, AND AS WE WERE SPEAKING OVER THE TELEPHONE, AND THEN I BEGAN TO, AND I AGREE WITH HIM, AND WE WERE IN SO MUCH PAIN, AND WE COULD HARDLY BE IN THE SAME ROOM TOGETHER. >> AND HE TOLD YOU TO GO TO BED WITH HER? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? >> AND I SAID WHAT DO I DO? AND DO I SLEEP ON THE COUCH? >> I SAID, YOU GET BACK INTO THE BED, AND YOU WILL NOT SPEND TIME APART, AND WE WILL NOT PARTICIPATE WITH THE SPIRIT OF DIVORCE. >> WHISKEY US CAN WHISKEY,/ AND YOU HAVE SEEN JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THE STORY, AND THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO SEE AND STAY WITH THIS, AND AS BOB SAID, AND FOR THE SPIRIT OF DIVORCE I WAS INTRIGUED BY THE COUNSELOR AND HE WAS TOUGH. AND THAT IS PROBABLY THE REASON THEY ARE TOGETHER TODAY AND THEY ARE WHOLE AND COMPLETE. AND AS THEY WERE WORKING WITH THE COUNSELOR THROUGH THE VERY SITUATIONS, AND THERE IS GOING TO BE ONE COMING UP AND THAT WOULD REALLY SURPRISE YOU, AND MAYBE YOU THINK THERE IS NO HOPE, AND NOBODY COULD MAKE IT THROUGH THIS. BUT YOU WILL SEE AND THE COUNSELOR AND UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE HOLY SPIRIT BROUGHT THEM PERFECTLY AND GH AND TOUGH AND HE PUT THE HARD QUESTIONS TO THEM, AND HE FOLLOWED THE SCRIPTURAL PASSAGES AND HE FOLLOWED THE WORD OF GOD PERFECTLY, AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, AND YOU CAN REALLY AND NO MATTER HOW PAINFUL IT IS, AND YOU CAN EXPECT A GOOD OUTCOME. AND NOW WERE GOING TO BE JOINING THE INTERVIEW AGAIN, AND NOW, AND THE COUNSELOR HAS GIVEN AUDREY A REALLY TELL QUESTION, AND LISTEN TO HER ANSWER. >> YOU KNOW, AND THEY SAID, AND WHEN DID YOU DISRESPECT BOB? AND HE SAID, YOU WOULD NOT DO WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IF YOU'D LOVED HIM. >> AND THERE WERE SO MANY DIFFERENT CHALLENGES YOU KNOW, AND WE HAD, AND THE THING IS AND WE GOT HELP. AND AS THE BODY OF CHRIST AND WE NEED TO PROTECT ONE ANOTHER AND WE NEED TO COVER ONE ANOTHER AND PROMOTE HEALING AND THE THING IS, AND THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE. AND WE DON'T WANT TO SPEAK THE TRUTH, AND WE WOULD RATHER AND WE WOULD RATHER APPEAL TO THE SYMPATHETIC SIDE, AND WHEN YOU EMBRACE THE TRUTH OF GOD, AND JOHN SAYS, AND WHEN YOU EMBRACE THE TRUTH OF GOD, THIS IS WHEN YOU EXPERIENCE THE GRACE OF GOD. AND WE WANT TO EXPERIENCE THE GRACE BUT NO TRUTH. >> I KEEP GOING BACK TO THE POINT, AND YOU CAN FAST, THIS WAS AN ATOM BOMB THAT WAS DROPPED IN YOUR LIFE. AND, AND SOMEHOW AND YOU NEED TO KNOW THE DEVASTATION. AND YOU KNOW I GET THIS FROM, FROM DOCTOR PHIL, AND HE ALWAYS SAYS, AND YOU HAVE A ADULTERY, AND YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. AND THIS IS KIND OF THE PATHWAY THAT YOUR COUNSELOR TOOK. AND THIS IS A JOURNEY >>./ AND REPENTANCE AND FORGIVENESS, IN LAYERS AND FOR THE FIRST MOMENT, AND WHEN SHE CRIED AND HE CONFESSED AND SHE REPENTED TO THE EXTENT THAT SHE COULD AND IT WAS OVER MANY YEARS AND HE FOR GAVE ME AS HE COULD AND THIS COMES OVER TIME IN LAYERS AND THERE ARE PEOPLE, THEY MUST UNDERSTAND THESE THINGS, AND I THINK, AAND YOU COULD MAKE JUST A DETERMINATION AND YOU CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION TO FORGIVE. >> AND THEN THE JOURNEY BEGINS. >>/ AND SOMETHING OCCURRED IT TO YOU, AND IN ALL OF THIS, AND MY HEAD WAS SWIMMING, AND I WAS TRYING TO DEAL WITH YOUR EMOTIONS, AND READING THE BOOK. >> AND THE PAIN WAS SO DIFFERENT. AND SO DIFFERENT. >> [ALL SPEAKING AT THE SAME TIME] >> AND THE HORRIBLE THOUGHT, AND I WANT TO BRING THIS UP AND THE NEXT SEGMENT AND WE WOULD BE GOING INTO AND WHAT HAPPENED, AND IN THE MIDDLE OF EVERYTHING YOU WERE GOING THROUGH, AND YOU HAD THE COUNSELOR, AND THEY'RE MAKING DEMANDS ON YOU, AND YOU ARE KIND OF IN THE CORNER AND SUCKING YOUR THUMB, AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AND THE THOUGHT OCCURS, AND WHAT IF SHE IS PREGNANT? >> AND WHAT DO YOU DO THEN? AND HE IMMEDIATELY ANSWERED ME, AND WITHOUT HESITATION AND HE SAID, THE GRACEFUL BE MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR YOU AND REALLY? YOU WILL GIVE ME THAT CLICHÉ, AND MY LIFE IS IN TURMOIL AND YOU WANT TO GIVE ME A FLIPPANT RESPONSE. AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD TOOK MY HEART. >> AND DO YOU KNOW WHY THAT CAME TO YOU? AND I THINK, THAT WAS ALMOST OUT OF THE... >> OF HER BEING PREGNANT? I HAD HAD A VASECTOMY, AND SO, I KNOW HOW BABIES ARE MADE AND IF THEY WERE HAVING SEX AND THE POSSIBILITY WOULD BE THERE, AS WELL, I THOUGHT, AND WHAT DO I DO? I WAS HANDLING THIS AND IF YOU PUT A CHILD ON TOP OF THIS, AND IN MY OPINION, THAT IS A GAME CHANGER, AND EVERYTHING COULD BE DIFFERENT, AND I NEEDED TO KNOW FROM MY PASTOR AND MY FRIEND, AND WHAT DO I DO? AND I AM TRUSTING YOU NOW BUT IF YOU PUT A CHILD AND HERE, AND THAT WILL CHANGE THINGS. >> DO YOU THINK THE SPIRIT OF GOD DID THAT FOR YOU? >> I DON'T KNOW AND MAYBE, AND PEOPLE DO CRAZY THINGS, AND YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU HAVE SO MUCH EMOTION, AND THEN YOU HAVE A PANIC ATTACK, AND YOU ARE THINKING THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, AND THIS IS WHAT IS SO DEVASTATING AND RIPPING AND THE RELATIONSHIPS. >> AND THE COUNSELOR, AND AS I SAW THIS, AND THEY WERE REALLY AND REALLY ZEROING IN ON YOU, AND AT THE SAME TIME, AND YOU WERE AND YOU ARE FULLY REPENTED. AND THERE WAS NO THOUGHT, THAT YOU WANTED THE MARRIAGE TO GO SOUTH. >> NOT ONE BIT, BUT I WENT INTO A TOTAL PERFORMANCE, AND I WANTED TO DO ANYTHING, AND I WOULD BE PERFECT FOR HIM, AND I WOULD REPENT. AND INTO MY SECRET LIFE, I LOVED THE OTHER GUY, AND INTO MY SECRET PLACES, I WANTED TO HATE SIN, AND I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS WAS DOING, AND I SAID, LET ME KNOW THE TRUTH AND WHAT SIN REALLY IS AND I DID NOT THINK I COULD GET OVER HIM, AND I KNOW PEOPLE THAT ARE LISTENING AND WE'RE IN AN AFFAIR, AND THEY DON'T THINK THEY CAN GET OVER THE OTHER PERSON, BUT I'M HERE TODAY, AFTER 13 YEARS, AND I CAN SAY, I AM NOT ONLY OVER IT, AND THERE IS NO EMOTION, AND THERE IS SUCH RESTORATION AND NO SECRETS. >> AND THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT HOW UNRIGHTEOUSNESS WILL BE SUCH A DECEPTION, AND THE DECEPTION IS SO SICK, AND THIS WILL TAKE YOU OVER/ AND I BELIEVE, AND ONLY GOD AND YOUR RESPONSE TO HIM CAN BEGIN TO BREAK IT. >> I TELL YOU, YOU DO NOT WANT TO MISS TOMORROW'S PROGRAM BECAUSE THIS WILL BE REVEALED AND MAYBE SHE WAS WITH CHILD AS THEY SAY, AND THESE PROGRAMS AND TODAY AND TOMORROW, AND THEY WILL DEAL WITH A VERY BRUTAL TRUTH, AND I THINK, AND THIS IS ALMOST FOREIGN IN THE FAMILY OF GOD TODAY, BECAUSE AND THE BIBLE SAYS YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL MAKE YOU FREE AND I THINK THIS IS THE TRUTH. AND NOT JUST SPIRITUAL TRUTH AND THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THE TRUTH THAT IS VERY FREEING AND EVEN IF IT IS PAINFUL, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I READ IN THE BIBLE AND THEY ARE NOT PRACTICE TODAY IN THE CHURCH, AND WHEN WE HAVE SIN AND WE HAVE THE PROCEDURES AND THESE THINGS SHOULD BE FOLLOWED AND IF THE PERSON DOES NOT REPENT AND THEY SHOULD BE PUT OUT AND THE BIBLE SAYS, AND YOU DO NOT EVEN HAVE LUNCH WITH THOSE PEOPLE AND IF THEY WILL NOT REPENT AND I THINK, AND POLITICAL CORRECTNESS HAS COME INTO THE CHURCH AND THIS IS AND THIS IS WATERING DOWN THE MESSAGE AND WHEN THIS HAPPENS, AND WE HAVE LOST THE POWER. AND THIS IS THE REASON I WANT YOU TO SEE TOMORROW'S PROGRAM AND THAT WOULD BE NO COOKING ON THE PROGRAM AND THE ENTIRE PROGRAM WILL BE GIVEN OVER TO THE INTERVIEW THAT I HAD, AND THIS IS ONE THAT IS SO LOADED WITH GOOD THEOLOGY AND WITH ONE ILLUSTRATION AFTER THE OTHER AS TO HOW THE FATHER WANTS TO WORK WITH US AND SOMETIMES, IT IS UNPLEASANT. AND I PRAY, I DON'T WANT YOU TO MISS IT, AND YOU MUST SET YOUR DVR, AND I WANT YOU, AND HOPEFULLY, SOMEHOW STIMULATE YOUR THINKING AS TO HOW THE CHURCH AND HOW OUR MESSAGE HAS BEEN WATERED DOWN AND I WAS WATCHING SOME PROGRAMS AND THE PASTORS WERE PREACHING AND THEY HARDLY EVER MENTIONED THE BLOOD OR THE CROSS AND THEY DON'T MENTION THE CHURCH DISCIPLINE, AND AS WE GET AWAY AND AS WE SAY, AND WE WOULD LOSE THE POWER AND THAT WE SHOULD HAVE IN THE WORLD TODAY. AND IF YOU ARE AND IF YOU ARE MARRIED AND YOU ARE HAVING A PROBLEM IN YOUR MARRIAGE, AND I HOPE YOU WILL SEE THE PROGRAM TOMORROW AND IF YOU ARE BEING UNFAITHFUL IN YOUR MARRIAGE COVENANT AND I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT YOU WILL WATCH AND THERE ARE SO MANY MESSAGES FOR YOU AND IF YOU FIND YOURSELF IN THIS SITUATION TODAY AND THIS IS TIME TO CUT IT OFF COMPLETELY, AND I KNOW THAT SOUNDS HARSH. AND THIS WILL GO NOWHERE AND THIS IS ABSOLUTE DISOBEDIENCE TO THE WORD OF GOD. AND THIS IS NOT UP TO US TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND SIN, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GOES ON EVEN IN THE CHRISTIAN COUNSELING AND THE SESSIONS TODAY. AND I THINK THE BIBLE IS VERY CLEAR, AND I THINK ABOUT THE GARDEN OF EDEN, YOU KNOW. AND GOD GAVE THEM ALL OF THESE WONDERFUL AND WONDERFUL WAYS AND THE FOOD AND THE SO FORTH TO SUSTAIN LIFE AND IT WAS A PERFECT AND A PERFECT SETTING, AND THEY SAID, AND HE SAID, DON'T HAVE THIS TREE, AND HE SAID, DON'T EVEN TO BE CURIOUS ABOUT IT, AND DO NOT DO IT. AND THAT IS THE WAY THAT WE SHOULD APPROACH SIN AND STAY AWAY FROM IT. AND DO NOT THINK ABOUT IT AND DO NOT BE CURIOUS ABOUT IT AND THE PROGRAM TOMORROW WILL CERTAINLY SHOW YOU SO MUCH TRUTH AND MAYBE MORE TRUTH THAN YOU HAVE SEEN A LONG TIME AND DON'T MISS IT. AND FOR THE TIME I HAVE LEFT, AND PRESTON, PLEASE PUT UP THE INFORMATION ON THE SCREEN, AND WE ARE VIEWER SUPPORTED. AND IF YOU WANT TO USE A CREDIT CARD AND YOU CAN CALL THE TELEPHONE NUMBER YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN, AND IT WOULD BE SOMEBODY ON THE OTHER END OF THE PHONE TO TAKE YOUR INFORMATION AND ALSO IF YOU COULD WRITE TO ME AND HOW MUCH WE DO LOVE YOUR NOTES AND SO FORTH, AND WHEN YOU SEND YOUR CHECK AND GOD BLESS YOU, AND OUR PO BOXES ON YOUR SCREEN, AND WE'RE OUT OF TIME AND JOIN ME NEXT TIME AND REMEMBER YOU HAVE NO HIGHER CALLING THAN THAT OF A HOME KEEPER AND GOD BLESS YOU. >> IF YOU WOULD LIKE A VIDEO COPY OF TODAY'S HOMEKEEPERS PROGRAM FOR JUST $19.95, PLEASE CALL THE TOLL-FREE NUMBER YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN FOR CREDIT CARD ORDERS, OR SEND AT LEAST $19.95 TO THE PO BOX YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN. AND BE SURE TO NOTE THE PROGRAM NUMBER WHICH APPEARS ON YOUR SCREEN. >> CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY THE STAFF OF THE CHRISTIAN TELEVISION NETWORK IN CLEARWATER FLORIDA. [MUSIC TO CONCLUSION]