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bjbj Danielle Celermajer: Even though we have now a whole body of formal international law
and a rhetorical nodding towards the importance of human rights, the actual implementation
and the way that people live their lives remains hugely disparate from what we say we re on
about. Super: Tell us about your work in torture prevention Danielle Celermajer: The first
part of this project is to bring together an international team of researchers in anthropology,
behavioural psychology, political science and law. To bring together the very best knowledge
on what do we know about the way in which torture occurs and what keeps it in place.
At the same time we have local researchers in Sri Lanka and Nepal who ll be interviewing
people who have been tortured, people in torture organisations and doing interviews with the
military and the police to try and work out what s actually going on in these institutions.
We re then going to design intervention. And then in the last part of the project we re
actually going to train people to go into the military and the police to do this work
and then we re going to evaluate it and see whether we make a difference in terms of the
way in which police and military behave. Super: What is the impact of this work? Danielle
Celermajer: What we re really trying to do is to think about prevention of human rights
violations in a different way. So to generalise some of the knowledge that we get about shifting
peoples worlds, not only in the area of torture but in the area of domestic violence, in the
area of *** abuse in other areas where what seems to be the case is that people are
responsible for human rights violations based on some understanding of the world that they
have. Super: What are the challenges? Danielle Celermajer: I think the major challenges for
human rights in the world are that - the same as they ve been for the last 2,000 years - that
often people aren t concerned about what s going on until it s immediately in their own
lives. And addressing human rights requires a recognition of the universality of humanity.
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