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We're here at the eighteenth session of the Commission on Sustainable Development,
which this year is considering the cross-cutting theme of sustainable consumption and production.
Speaking to us today is professor Victoria Thoresen,
she's one of the Baha’i delegates to the commission this year.
Victoria is associate professor of education at the university college in Hedmark, Norway.
She's also project manager of PERL -
the Partnership for Education and Research about Responsible living.
A partnership sponsored by
the E.U., UNEP, the Italian and Swedish task forces and the Norwegian government.
She's also author of the UNEP document “Here and now - education for sustainable
consumption”
Thank you for being with us today.
So, Victoria there has been
a lot of talk
for several years now, that educational is one of the pillars
of the transition to sustainable consumption and production.
And so the question then is if we want to talk about
concrete measures and concrete outcomes.
How do we achieve that, how do we change educational
processes and content
in such a way, that it becomes transformative
and can achieve the many aims
and the visions
that are being shared at the commission?
Well, there are a number of things that need to be done.
And some of these have been
referred to in this roadmap,
which is in the beginning of the document
which is called “Here and now - education for sustainable consumption”
Which 0:01:51.110,0:01:54.350 means that we have to of course first look at
scientific research
and see how that could be incorporated in education,
we have to work on teacher training
we have to work at developing
curriculum either including these topics as a
theme, which runs through everything, or specific
subjects, projects, classes.
We have to
work on developing creativity and other aspects of education
and we have to include
working in the community, practical education. There are a number of things like
that
which are essential. But when you get down to what
is
the basic transformation of education that's necessary,
I would say that there are two things.
One is the education generally in the world today,
that is extremely theoretical
and very abstract
and very general.
it's only a very exceptional schools that have educational
situations
where learning is
based on the individuals’ own
experiences, there own life
and very closely connected with what’s happening
with the environment around them.
So one of the main things that I feel is essential in approaching a kind
of education
which is active,
practical and inspiring is
to look at where the individual is, what they're life is,
and then to examine the values
and
what motivates those individuals
in their consumption habits.
To take the point of departure of understanding the symbolic value
of all that we are
doing every day, when we run around madly buying
or doing other kinds of forms of consumption.
And then, you can
move to understanding
life quality, the purpose of my life
in a broader context.
and then you could look more closely at questions of health, safety
enviromental consequences
future scenarios
global perspectives.
I think i'd like to add one more thing and that is that there is a problem
in schools today and education today
that we also divide things up in disciplines and subjects very much.
This is an issue that deals with our whole life
and the whole world. It’s very interdisciplinary
and it's important whether you
take the point of departure
classes on environmental education
or
you are taking civic education about participation in society,
or you take consumer education.
That these are looked at together.
That no matter where we begin
we can look at the wholeness, on the interrelatedness
of the processes and the systems
that have brought us where we are.
So we can understand them, use them to take us forward.
So you talk about the fact that
issues related to sustainability
and particularly consumption or production
are all equally interrelated.
So how would that be moving
into a curriculum that as you remarked
has traditionally been
compartmentalized?
How does an educator begin to do that?
Well, one way is to use the thematic approach.
To say okay,
maybe we're going to talk about
a glass of water,
then, let's look at that glass of water
you can say from cradle to grave
but more than just that, we can look at it from the point of view of what does it mean
for a person to have a glass of water, what happens when they don’t have it?
How can we insure that people
everywhere on the globe
do have that glass of clean
water?
And what are the obstacles to that?
And then develop that
into an understanding
of the global context
and the context which is based on
on a vision,
or perhaps one could say
basic principles.
If you believe,
that every human being on the face of the Earth is a member of your family
you wouldn't want your family to thirst right? Or have to drink muddy or polluted
water.
So you would
make an efford to
learn how everyone in my family can get clean glass of water.
And in the same way, in teaching
in schools
if the teacher has this common vision of oneness of humanity
then, in their education, in the way they approach themes
they can help the learner
understand, that
yes, this has to do with me, this has to do with my community, but also
these aspects
have to do with the greater society, and the global community in which we are a part of.
So, when I 0:06:23.249,0:06:25.470 to use the water example
have taken my aspirins and toss out the rest of the package in the toilet,
and I don't realize that, that then goes into the water system
goes into the ground system again to fix the ground water
and comes back to us
through polluted fish and other things, that
I have lost a part
of that understanding
the consequences
of what my little glass of water, and my little pill does to the world.