View from The Top - Renu thomas, disney/abc

Good afternoon! I'm delighted to welcome Renu Thomas, executive vice president for media operations, engineering, and IT at Disney ABC Television Group, as the first speaker in our View from the Top series for the fall semester. This series give our college community a chance to hear from leading thinkers on technology innovation and the driving force behind it is of course, engineering education. I'd like to thank the Berkeley chapter of the society of Women Engineers for co-sponsoring today's lecture. I'm also honored to welcome the alumni and members of our dean's society, who are joining us today. The loyalty and support of our alumni and friends of the college play a key role in advancing our mission at Berkeley engineering, which is to educate leaders, create knowledge, and serve society. Before I introduce our guest, I invite you to mark your calendars for another special event coming to the college. On Friday, October 7th we'll celebrate the five year anniversary of the Fung Institute for Engineering Leadership and their new home at Shires Hall. For those of you who don't know it, Shires hall is part of the graduate theological union on Ridge street. I invite you to come there not only for the union, but for some spiritual enrichment as well. It's really one of the most beautiful, I'm not kidding, it's really one of the most beautiful contemplative spaces in Berkeley. I know this because whenever I used to sort of grind down to a halt in my research, I used to go to that hill which we had dubbed "holy hill" in search of enrichment and nourishment. So please join us for this exciting milestone. More information on all Berkeley engineering events may be found on our website engineering.berkeley.edu. Now let me introduce today's speaker, Renu Thomas. Renu is an executive vice president media operations engineering and IT for Disney and the ABC Television group. As a member of the senior leadership team, Renu works to ensure strategic alignment of the groups investments, initiative, and business growth objectives, including global expansion, organic growth into new markets, and new products/service development in deployment. Renu joined the Walt Disney Company in 2000 as Vice President for Operations for ABC News, where she was responsible for setting the overall strategy and leading the operations for studios, control rooms, editing and graphics, for all ABC news programs, including Good Morning America, World News, Nightline, 2020, and This Week. She helped prepare ABC News for the future by deploying new technology and improving production and business processes. Prior to joining ABC News, Renu was the director of production for McNeal Era Productions where she oversaw the technical and production management for the news hour with Jim Lehrer and related documentaries. Before joining McNeal Era Productions she served as the director of studio operations at NBC Universal, where she led the management team for the network's news and entertainment studios and control rooms, at Rockefeller Center. Renu graduated from Cornell with a bachelor's in Science and a Master's in Engineering, in Operations Research and Industrial Engineering. Throughout her career, she has fostered innovation and led change by finding opportunity and people in technology, all the while championing the idea that for organizations to thrive, the must continue to break barriers and deploy cutting edge technology, which is the focus of Renu's talk today. We are really fortunate to have such an accomplished leader and representative of such a major conglomerate, so please join me in giving a warm Berkeley welcome to Renu Thompson! [applause] Thank you! Thank you Dean Saustry (?) My name is Renu Thomas, and I'm the executive Vice President of Media Operations Engineering and IT for Disney ABC. I've seen all the flyers out in the engineering area. I took a picture for my mom to show her that it was all advertised. I also want to introduce Michael Pollard. He's the executive Director of Technology and Operations, and he's also my Chief of Staff. We've had such a great day here. I've already got the bear pin. I guess I'm an official Berkeley person now! [applause] We saw Jacobs Hall. We've seen the work you're doing with prosthetic, with cell scope. It's been humbling. I said that to Michael before, the work that you're doing here, the title of my talk is Breaking Barriers and Leading Change. You're all doing that every single day. I commend you and thank you for that. [applause] The closest to anything medical lifesaving I get to do: Grey's Anatomy. And we know how real that is. [laughter] So I always wanted to be an engineer. In fact, I applied early decision to Cornell, but the first barrier I had to break was people's expectations of me. My dad and I went to the senior year counseling session, and the guidance counselor looked at me and said, "Why do you want to be an engineer? You should be a liberal arts major. You're editor in chief of the school newspaper. You're on the debate team." Well, I didn't listen to him. I went on to Cornell and got my bachelor of science and operations research and industrial engineering, and also my master's of engineering. Phil and I talked about this - industrial engineering and operations research here - I'm kind of biased towards the ORE, but at the end of the day, industrial engineering operations research we really look at optimization. We look at people and processes and look at how do we make them efficient, effective. My team and I do that every single day. We're the internal consultants to our business partners. We look at work flows, we look at innovation. We look at technology, and we help with the creative process. Good afternoon! I'm delighted to welcome Renu Thomas, executive vice president for media operations, engineering, and IT at Disney ABC Television Group, as the first speaker in our View from the Top series for the fall semester. This series give our college community a chance to hear from leading thinkers on technology innovation and the driving force behind it is of course, engineering education. I'd like to thank the Berkeley chapter of the society of Women Engineers for co-sponsoring today's lecture. I'm also honored to welcome the alumni and members of our dean's society, who are joining us today. The loyalty and support of our alumni and friends of the college play a key role in advancing our mission at Berkeley engineering, which is to educate leaders, create knowledge, and serve society. Before I introduce our guest, I invite you to mark your calendars for another special event coming to the college. On Friday, October 7th we'll celebrate the five year anniversary of the Fung Institute for Engineering Leadership and their new home at Shires Hall. For those of you who don't know it, Shires hall is part of the graduate theological union on Ridge street. I invite you to come there not only for the union, but for some spiritual enrichment as well. It's really one of the most beautiful, I'm not kidding, it's really one of the most beautiful contemplative spaces in Berkeley. I know this because whenever I used to sort of grind down to a halt in my research, I used to go to that hill which we had dubbed "holy hill" in search of enrichment and nourishment. So please join us for this exciting milestone. More information on all Berkeley engineering events may be found on our website engineering.berkeley.edu. Now let me introduce today's speaker, Renu Thomas. Renu is an executive vice president media operations engineering and IT for Disney and the ABC Television group. As a member of the senior leadership team, Renu works to ensure strategic alignment of the groups investments, initiative, and business growth objectives, including global expansion, organic growth into new markets, and new products/service development in deployment. Renu joined the Walt Disney Company in 2000 as Vice President for Operations for ABC News, where she was responsible for setting the overall strategy and leading the operations for studios, control rooms, editing and graphics, for all ABC news programs, including Good Morning America, World News, Nightline, 2020, and This Week. She helped prepare ABC News for the future by deploying new technology and improving production and business processes. Prior to joining ABC News, Renu was the director of production for McNeal Era Productions where she oversaw the technical and production management for the news hour with Jim Lehrer and related documentaries. Before joining McNeal Era Productions she served as the director of studio operations at NBC Universal, where she led the management team for the network's news and entertainment studios and control rooms, at Rockefeller Center. Renu graduated from Cornell with a bachelor's in Science and a Master's in Engineering, in Operations Research and Industrial Engineering. Throughout her career, she has fostered innovation and led change by finding opportunity and people in technology, all the while championing the idea that for organizations to thrive, the must continue to break barriers and deploy cutting edge technology, which is the focus of Renu's talk today. We are really fortunate to have such an accomplished leader and representative of such a major conglomerate, so please join me in giving a warm Berkeley welcome to Renu Thompson! [applause] Thank you! Thank you Dean Saustry (?) My name is Renu Thomas, and I'm the executive Vice President of Media Operations Engineering and IT for Disney ABC. I've seen all the flyers out in the engineering area. I took a picture for my mom to show her that it was all advertised. I also want to introduce Michael Pollard. He's the executive Director of Technology and Operations, and he's also my Chief of Staff. We've had such a great day here. I've already got the bear pin. I guess I'm an official Berkeley person now! [applause] We saw Jacobs Hall. We've seen the work you're doing with prosthetic, with cell scope. It's been humbling. I said that to Michael before, the work that you're doing here, the title of my talk is Breaking Barriers and Leading Change. You're all doing that every single day. I commend you and thank you for that. [applause] The closest to anything medical lifesaving I get to do: Grey's Anatomy. And we know how real that is. [laughter] So I always wanted to be an engineer. In fact, I applied early decision to Cornell, but the first barrier I had to break was people's expectations of me. My dad and I went to the senior year counseling session, and the guidance counselor looked at me and said, "Why do you want to be an engineer? You should be a liberal arts major. You're editor in chief of the school newspaper. You're on the debate team." Well, I didn't listen to him. I went on to Cornell and got my bachelor of science and operations research and industrial engineering, and also my master's of engineering. Phil and I talked about this - industrial engineering and operations research here - I'm kind of biased towards the ORE, but at the end of the day, industrial engineering operations research we really look at optimization. We look at people and processes and look at how do we make them efficient, effective. My team and I do that every single day. We're the internal consultants to our business partners. We look at work flows, we look at innovation. We look at technology, and we help with the creative process. And it's not just O R I E I E O R individuals that I have on the team. We have computer scientists - Michael's degree is in computer science - We have electrical engineers. We have mechanical engineers. And the reason for that is, engineering gives you such a great foundation. Gives you a foundation in problem solving, critical thinking skill sets, analytical skill sets that can be used anywhere. Now, my first job out of college, I joined GE Aerospace at a manufacturing plant. We built circuit boards for military satellites. Really excited about my first day, I had my new suit on, I bought my new briefcase. I get there, they tell me, "You've got a mentor!" I'm thinking, "This is exactly what I thought the real world was going to be." Well, my mentor pulls me aside, and he goes, "I'm not going to help you." [laughter] "You're an Ivy League grad. You make more money than me." And he just walks away. And I stood there dumbfounded, going, "Is this the real world? Is this really what I want to be doing?" Well I was really lucky that some more seasoned engineers took me under their wings. They taught me manufacturing. They taught me the industry. They taught me the real world. And I've been really lucky throughout my career. That people have seen something in me and given me that opportunity. I landed in television through GE. One of my managers was at NBC and called me and said, "Hey, would you like to come over?" and I ended up taking a job as a six sigma project manager. Never knew, you know, was a viewer of television. Never knew what control rooms did, none of that. If you ask anyone of my peers today, a lot of them will tell you, "Oh, I went on a studio tour when I was four years old, I came home, took apart the television. That's when I decided what I was going to be when I grew up." That's not how I ended up in television. I kind of fell upon it. But after my first year as a six sigma project manager, once again, the equivalent of my position today saw that spark in me. And I got promoted to run studios at 30 Rock. That was a 24/7 position. And it was, you know, running shows from Today Show to Saturday Night Live. A big risk on his part, but at the same time, it was the people in the control room who taught me television. It was the audio engineers. It was the technical directors, the producers, the directors. I, in turn, came in and looked at things with a fresh perspective. I looked at the work flows, I looked at their technology. And I gave recommendations and I ended up helping them as much as they helped me. And that's something that I think, when we as engineers sometimes overlook, it's those interpersonal skills and communication skills. We can come up with the best technology. We can come up with the best work flows. But if you can't communicate that, and get people to be there with you to implement, then they're not going to be a success. I continued my television journey, as you heard, and was at Disney ABC. And I was running operations - my team and I were looking at how do we use an automated control room for a control room for live news or any sort of live new program. It's very silo'd, with very specific processes. We looked at that, especially as an industrial engineer, looking at it going, "How can we consolidate some of this, and how do we make it more efficient?" And, you know, I went to talk to the editorial team about this. And they looked at me and said, "This is the way we've been doing television for 50 years. We're just fine." Well, "just fine" isn't good enough. At least for me it wasn't. But I didn't go straight to the world news, our flagship show, to say, "Hey! Lets try to implement this!" I went to our overnight news programs. Little less risks there. Partnered with them, my team and I looked at their workflows, we looked at how we could implement this technology with them. And it wasn't easy. There were times when we had to tweak the technology. Tweak the workflows. But at the end of the day, we were able to streamline their process. That the savings they achieved from that, they were able to put back to the content, to the screen, for the viewer. And other shows followed. They saw those savings and they saw that it was actually adding value to their programs. And after that, all of our news programs, including world news, implemented the automated control room. We were the first network news organization to implement that. And that was a really important lesson in that you may have a vision. You may have lots of innovation you want to do, but other people may have doubts, and unless you can communicate that vision and help carry them through your journey with you, then it's not going to go anywhere. And in terms of innovation, at Disney, we stand on a long line of innovators. But there's no one more innovative than Walt Disney himself. When Walt wanted to create the first animated feature, people looked at him and said, "Who's going to watch a cartoon?" Well, we all know how iconic the film Snow White has become. And how many animated features have followed and continued to follow. It's the same with television. In the 20s and 30s, people looked at TV and said, "Is there really a future? Is there any monitization value with this?" Other studio execs viewed it as a threat.They wouldn't even allow "television" to be said in their movies. They wouldn't show a TV receiver. Walt saw the opposite. Walk looked at it as an opportunity. He saw it as an opportunity to promote his films, and the theme park that he was about to build. He went to ABC in 1954 and struck a 40 million dollar programming deal. And in that time, that was the biggest programming deal and quite a lot of money to air original content. That allowed him to build Disney land, which I'm sure all of us have enjoyed some theme park of Disney at some point. And it changed our industry and our company. So I want to take a moment and share some of the content we create. The magic that we get to share with millions of viewers every single day. I don't know how many times I've seen that, and I still love it. So.. [applause] My personal favorite characters are Olivia Pope and Dock McStuffins. Someone can probably psychoanalyze that but... [laughter] Anyways, when we as engineers also look at that, we see the engineering and technology that goes behind all that. Graphics, animation, requires different technology than live news gathering versus studio production. I want to take a poll. How many of you watch TV still on a traditional TV set? How many of you watch it on your mobile device of some sort? Okay. I wouldn't be asking that question five years ago. Our consumer is changing so quickly and the needs of our consumer is changing so quickly. Like Walt did in the 20s and 30s, we need to be able to anticipate that change. And be able to meet that change today and for what they might not even know they need tomorrow. And Disney ABC has been leading that change. In 2005, when Steve Jobs showed our CEO Bob Beiger "Lost" on a video iPod. I don't know how many of you remember "Lost" or what a video iPod looked like. [laughter] But we were the first network to put it on iTunes. Now, today, how many more devices and how many other ways do you watch shows? We are continuing that innovation, and something that I'm really proud of, that my team and I are leading in the industry, and we patented this technology, we're doing broadcast from the cloud. A traditional broadcast center - and that really is our broadcast center in New York - it's over 130,000 square feet. Miles and miles of copper cable. Racks and racks of equipment. Broadcasting from the cloud, Michael - It looks like this. This is actually the live Disney channel running from the cloud. If I touch it I may take us off the air. But this is real. So that has become an infrastructure that plays and works through this. So we, you know, I joke all the time that one of our guys that, you know, he's gonna be running the network from a beach in the Bahamas. But that's literally what we can do now. And what that gives us in terms of flexibility and capability to meet what our consumers need. In the past, in the traditional broadcast center, it would take months and months of engineering time and over a million dollars worth of capital to launch a new network, for example. Now, it'll take about two-three hours and about 1,500 dollars in expense. So the power that gives us, and what we can offer for our consumer, is huge. But it's not just behind the scenes that we're using innovation and technology. It's in production. We're using virtual reality. We're using augmented reality. We're using machine learning. We've been talking about that today in terms of what you're doing here at Berkeley and what we're doing at Disney ABC. I've always wanted to say this: I want to throw out a pop quiz. [laughter] Since I usually don't get that opportunity and I've always been on the other side. So we're gonna stop and do a quick pop quiz. There are no grades involved, but we got some great swag. We got some Disney ABC footballs. So I'm gonna let Mike do the pop quiz. Alright, alright. Hope my arm is warmed up here. Question 1: What is the name of the law firm in ABC's Scandal? But before you answer - That's Olivia Pope, for those of you who don't know. Very stylish, Olivia. So, you were I think the first. Ding ding ding ding ding! I'm gonna throw it. Here we go! Oh! You have to give it to her! Alright, that was the warm up throw. You're supposed to have the better arm than me! I know, I know! I didn't stretch it! Alright, alright. Next question. Which show features previous hopefuls from the Bachelor and the Bachelorette? Ding ding ding ding ding! I think I can make this throw! Nice, nice. Next question: What was Zac Efron's breakout role on the Disney Channel? Uhh, who was first? Who was fiiiiirst? Were you first? Yes? [laughter] Yes! That's good. We'll give you credit for High School Musical. Here we go. Alright! Nice grab! Now this is a hard one. Next question: What does HDR stand for? Anyone know? Yes! Alright, lets see if we can make this throw! Here we go! Oh! Almost! Almost! My bad! Nice, good answer. And, who is the toy doctor for The Preschool Set? You are correct! But you have two footballs! [laughter] Alright, here we go! [laughter] Oh! Oh! Almost! You need two footballs! Well you did well tonight. That's awesome. Last question: We've got a winner in the audience. Who is the actor starring as our next unlikely president of the united states? And I've got to do the shameless plug - September 21st, it's an awesome show if you haven't seen the promos for it. Watch it. Really good. Alright! Thanks, everyone for participating. [applause] Thanks for humoring us with that. So throughout our conversation, you've heard me talk about mentoring and how important mentoring has been in my career and my success. I've had really great mentors, and I still do have great mentors. I'm a mentor. Mike was actually one of my mentees a couple of years ago, and that's how we met. My team and I take the mentoring role really importantly, and it's probably the most fulfilling part of our careers. But while you're here at Berkeley, and when you go to your first jobs, your internships - find those role models. Find those mentors. But at the same time, remember you're reverse-mentoring. You're giving new ways of problem solving, of bringing a fresh new perspective. You may be looking at technology differently. So you're going to be giving back to your mentors and that organization just as much as they're giving to you. And when you get to that place where you're able to, pay it forward. It's also great to be sitting here and seeing female engineers in the audience. Thank you to the society of women engineers who sponsored me today. It's still not enough. Women in engineering is something I'm really passionate about. I know that Berkeley has a girl's in engineering program. We need to get girls to get excited and want to be here, and I want to see more of you be in roles like I'm in, and other more executive roles where you can be those role models. But we need to get more female engineers. But the good thing is, I'm really proud to be working for a company like Disney. Our stories reflect the world we live in, and at Disney ABC, we're able to tell stories that portray positive role models for girls and authentic, meaningful portrayals for women. But the reason we're able to create these strong, complex smart women on the screen is because we have strong, complex smart women behind the screen. Behind the camera, and in our executive offices. Over 50% of our organization is women. And the majority of our executive vice presidents are female. I'm really proud to be working for a company that walks the talk. Finally, as I leave you, this is one of my favorite Walt quotes. "If you can dream it, you can do it." So I would tell you - don't let anyone tell you what you're vision should be. Don't let anyone tell you what you can or can't do with an engineering degree. You can do anything. You can break barriers and you can lead change. The foundation and the education that you're getting here, and especially with an engineering background - you can go do anything, and you can help the world. But I hope some of you are sitting there and going, "You know what - Disney ABC would be a fun place to work." [laughter] So, there is a Disney career website. I would ask that you go look at that, but I'll also tell you that I love my job. I use my engineering degree every single day. And I don't think there's many people who can say that, especially as long as I've been out of school, I use it every single day. And we look for problems solvers. We look for innovators. And our journey - our journey is telling the best stories with the best people, process, and technology. I'd love to see some of you come join us for internships or jobs out of school. Thank you. Thank you for your time, thank you for allowing me to be part of the Berkeley community, it's been a great day. I think it's been more than Mike and I even hoped for and I really appreciate the time. I appreciate the hospitality. [applause] Would you like to take some questions? Mike, would you like to come up? Thank you, alright. If you could tell us your name, major. [laughter] My name is Ally Scheska, I am a senior studying mechanical engineering here. And my question for you is: being a very obviously adept leader and really socially engaged as an engineer, what drove you to pursue a masters in engineering over an MBA? Like I said, I always wanted to be an engineer and I think it was that master of engineering program, which I know Berkeley has too - it gave me that focus with the technical, but also that business foundation. And so it kind of combined the best of both worlds. Hi, my name is Alicia. I'm a second year bioengineer, and I absolutely love Disney, you guys were my childhood so this is so cool! I love Mulan. I grew up watching Mulan every weekend. My parents hated me. So thank you so much for being here and I guess my question is, do you guys have any open positions, or like, thoughts on bioengineers There are 192 engineering related positions in the search we showed. Specifically for bioengineers, though. I know I'm not the only bio engineer out there who wants to work for Disney. We actually have, in our group - One of our managers of our operations analyst program, which is kind of like our incubator for up and coming talent, has a bioengineering degree. So, doesn't get better than that. [laughter] But really, for us - [laughter] For us, just the engineering curriculum in general. It teaches you how to think, and there's nothing that we need and like more than critical thinkers who aren't afraid to be open and attacking challenges. So very often, we look at talent and try to find opportunities within the organization that matches that person, and sometimes we put them in a position for that to be discovered through incubator programs. And if you heard from my journey, if people hadn't seen that spark in me - I wouldn't be where I am today, and that's what we try to do in terms of how we look for talent. My name is Adam Yang, and I want to ask a two part question. Since you mentioned about the incubators, I want to ask two questions for entrepreneurs in here and I know that we have some entrepreneurs in the audience. The first one is that in Disney, do you guys actually have any incubators, entrepreneurs with technology from Berkeley that can partner with or go there with and actually start their own start up and have their own facility, number one. Number two is as a leader, whether you are leading a start up or a major corporation like yours, how do you actually balance your work life trade-off, thank you so much. I think with the incubators, I think that's where we're here, just starting conversations and understanding anywhere we can work better together is a Disney accelerator program, which I know is at the Disney corporate level. Work life balance, you wanna start? Even a little bit more about the entrepreneurial thing - yes. Start being an entrepreneur, starting your own business, that's one thing. But In actuality, we're entrepreneurs every day. We're actually inventing new solutions that are literally going to change the business and yes, it is for the benefit of Disney, but we still get to live that entrepreneurial spirit. There's other avenues to experience that other than just the incubator program. Work life balance. You know, that's one of the benefits of working at Disney. Disney is probably one of the most family friendly quality-of-life companies that there is to work for. Work life balance - it's not work life balance. It's just balance. And each of us has to make sure that we leave the office. It's a two-way relationship. But the good news is that Disney is the type of place that helps you with that. There's lots of opportunities to do extra curricular things with peers, and we also encourage outreach and volunteer efforts. We also encourage taking your vacation time. Because we all need to reset. Hello! My name is Allissa Ramirez, I'm a senior studying industrial engineering and operations research. [laughter] I wanted to ask: what part of your job do you find most challenging? What do you do to overcome these challenges? I think for our group, we are the internal consultants, we're the entrepreneurs selling new technology, new ways of doing things, and you've got to persuade and show your internal partners, internal customers, come on this journey with us - it will help. It will help what we all end up doing in terms of putting the content on the screen. So that's probably one of the more difficult ones because people are saying, "This is the way we've been doing it for 50 years", and "Why are you coming and trying to change my world?" and trying to show them that this is actually a win-win for all of us. I said this earlier to someone, a lot of time when you're in a creative process, people will be on their iPhone, they drove their Tesla to work. And then you walk into a meeting with them and their like "Woah, you're the tech person.." It's like, no we're all technologists in one way or another. My name is Jackson, I'm doing civil engineering and my favorite Disney movie is Star Wars. My question is - which episode? Well, I mean, the most recent one is the only one made strictly by Disney, so I don't want to open that can of worms. Anyway - I've seen some links to Disney University? Disney training programs? I was curious if you could speak about what that experience is like for maybe recent graduates and what the benefits are of pursuing education in Disney in that way. There's a lot of opportunities to do that. We have a very mature college program. Lots of opportunities in the college program actually feeds opportunities in all parts of Disney. At Disney ABC television, where we're from, those types of opportunities we look to create through internships. We look to create through apprenticeships. So really, what you should do, is keep looking on the career site. Because all those opportunities are advertised, and we're actually looking for people like you. That's actually why we made the flight. [laughter] We want you to be interested in our opportunities. Please reach out, please go to the career center. And you think, when you're watching a program on the bart coming in, you say - wow! That's technology that drives that. [laughter] I'm Saba, I'm a junior industrial engineering operation research student and I guess I'm a Marvel chick. I was wondering for you, what challenges have you faced regarding your discrimination towards gender and I don't know if you are a mother and whether you want to disclose that - it's your choice, but how have you overcome those challenges regarding the fact that you are a woman and this is essentially a man's world. I work for her, by the way. [laughter] I think as I've gotten more senior, people know who I am. people know who I am in the industry. Starting out, and I said this earlier to a couple people - I'd walk into a meeting and it didn't matter if it was when I was in manufacturing or if I was in TV, I may be the only female in the conference room. And there would be people who didn't know my background at all. And I'd wait for the right moment because I am small and I, you know, may not appear to look all technical to some six foot man who comes in and starts talking to my male peers. I'll say I'm an engineer, and that kind of lets them step back and say "Oh, she does know what she's talking about." I also think that you have a seat at the table. That's what I tell my female mentees - it's like - walk in there. Don't sit at the back. Go sit at the table. Make sure that people know who you are. It's been male mentors that have helped me throughout my career. I have been traditionally working in a male world. It's also part of paying it forward. That's why I'm so passionate about getting more females. My niece is an engineering student. It's something I want to see more of. And just like that guidance counselor told me I didn't look like the typical engineer - well none of us are a typical engineer. I'm not a mother, but I have a niece and nephew and I have a lot of collegues that are mothers, and that's also the great part of Disney, that we are such a family friendly company, and when you say Disney, people are happy. It is the happiest place on Earth. How old are your kids? Oh okay. Wow. Okay. That's perfect. Last night it was about a magazine. You won those. You won those fair and square. Why do you think Disney or ABC has more than 50% women? In the executive vice president tier versus other - NBC, CBS, what have you. Why do you think that is? What do you think contributed towards that very high ratio? It's the characters that are put on the screen. You see what we put on the screen, and how much we value diversity. I think that's also reflected in how our leadership is and how we foster that, in the environment. It's also what a great company it is to work for. It is family friendly. Yes! So, Renu. This has been a fantastic afternoon with you. Please join me in thanking Renu for a wonderful talk today. [applause] And Mike! [applause] I got my own shirt! Oh wow, awesome! Thank you! I love it! Can I just make one comment? Because I said when I saw these shirts, I'm glad they aren't these big, oversized, men's shirts. They actually fit! Thank you all for coming, and go bears!