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MIKE PAPANTONIO: Today’s Democratic Party has become an extension of Wall Street. We’re
kidding ourselves if we think that it’s just the GOP. Joining me to talk about the
new Wall Street Democrats are attorneys Howard Nations and Dave Teselle. Howard, Wall Street
doesn’t need Republicans anymore they have Democrats to do all their fighting and bidding
and hustling for them. I mean I’ve never seen such a bunch of Wall Street hustling
Democrats like we have with this new Democratic Party that’s evolved since Bill Clinton.
NATIONS: It’s absolutely amazing Mike, that after the near collapse of the global economy
as a result of Wall Street practices, their financial
practices, now we’re back to the point where believe it or not a bill just passed the House
Financial Services Committee to allow derivatives trading again. Derivatives what Warren Buffet
referred to as “weapons of mass financial destruction.” What you’re talking about
is the fact that this bill was carried by Democrats. It was drafted by the Citigroup.
It was sponsored by Democrats who had received Wall Street money. What we have there is the
fox in the hen house, the revolving door policies continue with respect to the financial industry.
The White House revolving door as it turns out opens onto Wall Street. We’ve had
PAPANTONIO: [Chuckles] Howard, I saw one line in 70 lines of the 85 line bill that is supposed
to again free-up derivative trading, the same thing that brought us this last crash, that
70 of those lines were actually drafted by Citigroup without ever being changed by a
Democrat at all. NATIONS: Absolutely.
PAPANTONIO: Dave, what’s your take on this? What’s your picture? What is it that you
see developing here? DAVE TESELLE: Well what’s really concerning
to me is really the growth of what I would call the Wall Street wing of the Democratic
Party and the squeeze of the progressives at this point. One thing that we’ve seen
more recently with the trial balloon that was floated about nominating Larry Summers
for the leadership of the Federal Reserve. When the Obama administration did that, that
was very important and it was a very telling sign about how much Wall Street has controlled
Obama’s White House. I think what we need to know and we need to really look at is Larry
Summers is one of the founding fathers of this Wall Street wing from back in the Bill
Clinton days. In the Clinton White House, Larry Summers working as a protégé of Bob
Rubin, who is now at Citigroup working there, he was the one who pushed deregulation of
the big banks and deregulation of Wall Street. That was a root cause of the collapse that
happened here. PAPANTONIO: Yeah, I mean you’ve got Jack
Lew of course, Chief Operating Officer of Citigroup and course now he’s Obama’s
current treasury secretary. You have Peter Orszag who was Obama’s Director of Office
of Management in Budget, which we’ve talked about on this program before, that’s where
all the bills are held-up because consumers are always affected by a bill doesn’t get
through there unless the White House wants it to get through and now this is a guy, Peter
Orszag, who was also he’s become a Citigroup’s Vice Chairman. Look Howard, what’s in store
here? I mean what’s happening to us? NATIONS: Well the Democrats are rolling back
Dodd-Frank, which is totally outrageous. Then the other thing coming out of the White House
is that President Obama first of all he placed no strong conditions on bail-out money and
then they have not prosecuted one single Wall Street exec. There are all sorts of fraud
taking place. They are paying fines left and right. They are paying out billions in fines
for fraud, but not one single Wall Street exec has been prosecuted. You just simply
can’t trust the Democrats to regulate Wall Street. Senator Paul Wellstone said it best,
he said, “I’m a member of the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party; the other wing
is the Wall Street wing of the Democratic Party,” which is just unbelievable.
PAPANTONIO: Now the Wall Street wing is clearly winning. Dave, are there Democratic progressives?
Full disclosure, people think I’m a Democrat, I’m independent because of this very thing.
You almost can’t tell a difference between the parties anymore on significant issues.
Now you can on social issues, things like gender and things like immigration, but where
it comes to the issues that put food on people’s table, that takes their rights away, you know
Democrats are just an extension of Wall Street. Who are the progressives that are fight back
here? TESELLE: Well Paul Wellstone is one of them.
You make a really good point Mike, this is an issue that really should reach across party
lines. When you talk about social issues we have deep divisions between the Democrats
and the Republicans. But when you talk about these types of issues, those self-described
Tea Party or conservatives, they don’t necessarily disagree with a lot of our more progressive
drivers that are against Wall Street and against what’s been going on. I do want to point
out even the fines that are being paid, that Howard just talked about by Wall Street, are
minuscule, they are minuscule compared to the actual effect of what these big banks
have done and no one is standing up to them. PAPANTONIO: Dave, don’t they do the same
thing the pharmaceutical industry does TESELLE: Absolutely.
PAPANTONIO: Once they’re fined they simply build the fine into the cost of the pharmaceutical,
the banking industry does the same thing. Say, “Sure we’ll pay a $20 million fine,
but we’re going to build it in to the cost that flows to you.” Howard, as I look at
this I see there are very few progressive, I mean Sherrod Brown of Ohio, Jeff Merkley
of Oregon, Carl Levin of Michigan, Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, of course you’ve
got Bruce Braley of Iowa, you have some Democrats out there who get it, who understand that
there are no progressives who are paying attention, who are not embarrassed to say, “Yeah, I
consider myself a Democrat because of these very issues.”
NATIONS: Well Sherrod Brown give him credit, he wants to break-up the “too big to fail
banks,” which Holder, the Attorney General, recently said, “They are also too big to
jail.” Now does that need to be broken up? I think so. Senators Levin and Merkley have
been doing regulatory review hearings and they’ve been having hearings on all these
bank scandals. What they find is all sorts of fraud prevailing out there and as you say
it just becomes the cost of doing business with no criminal prosecutions. Bernie Sanders
is opposing the fast-track trade authority that President Obama wants, because he wants
a strategy that will revise and revive United States manufacturing. So there is a considerable
battle between the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party and to some extent President
Obama, but where Obama and the progressive do agree is on increasing minimum wage, on
action on the perverse CEO compensation packages, which are designed to reward short-term planning
on the part of CEOs, as opposed to long-term financial strategy.
PAPANTONIO: Yeah, it used to be that a CEO would take over a corporation and be there
for 25 or 30 years, now if they’re there 5, they are in there for quick profits. They
don’t care what in the hell they do to the stockholders, the shareholders of the company,
they’re moving through. Dave, let me go to you on this. You mentioned Summers. Isn’t
this the litmus test? I mean you’ve got an Obama administration who knows, (a) Larry
Summers was the one who was supporting Enron up till the week that we found out that they
had committed this incredible fraud on all of America. Larry Summers is the guy who went
to Bill Clinton and helped with Bob Rubin, helped Bill Clinton move on Glass-Steagall,
to remove the Glass-Steagall protections we have. He’s the guy who has been more responsible
for the deregulation that led to the burn-out of this economy, at least in the same class
as Phil Gramm that lead to the same burn-down. So here we have an Obama administration saying,
“Yeah, this is my guy, I want to put him in charge of the Fed.” Isn’t that a good
reflection of what we’re really dealing with here?
TESELLE: It’s an unfortunate reflection. It’s an unfortunate reflection really to
the past of tried policies that have failed extremely. So let’s be clear, so when we
talk about deregulation, what that is, this is a man who said, “We need less rules and
less oversight on Wall Street.” We need to allow Wall Street to devour itself essentially
is what happened. He was the one who pushed for that. He was the one who championed that
in the Clinton administration and that was built on leading up to the collapse and caused
the collapse. He doesn’t have any new ideas. PAPANTONIO: He’s embracing Cory Booker right
now. Cory Booker is a nightmare when it comes to consumers versus Wall Street.
TESELLE: It’s unbelievable to me. I mean Cory Booker and maybe it’s because when
we look at the main-stream media, we only get snippets or little ideas, you hear that
he’s the Mayor of Newark and that he is running for the Senate in New Jersey and that
maybe his perception is standing up for the little person or the consumer, but the facts
when you look into who his benefactors are, the monied elite that are behind him, the
anti-affirmative action groups and the vouchers that he backs.
PAPANTONIO: He is bought and paid for by corporate America and again Obama is embracing him like
he’s one of them. Howard, what does this mean for consumers? In about a minute tell
me what is it the consumers do about all this? NATIONS: Well that’s the difficult part
of this, because the golden rule of politics in Washington is, “He who has the gold makes
the rules.” The example of that is if you look at the financial independent industries
lobbying versus what consumer groups try to do protect consumers; in 2009 the consumer
group said, “We’re going to raise $5 million to push for financial reform.” In that same
timeframe, 2009, 2010, the financial industry spent $750 million in lobbying. They are giving
money to both parties. They are giving money more to the conservative wing of both parties,
the moderate Democrats and the conservative Republicans and the effect is to push both
parties to the right on financial reforms. PAPANTONIO: Guys, it’s my call, I’ve got
to tell you something I’ve been talking about lately, it is time for a labor party
in the United States, it’s time for a third-party, there is no better time than right now. Democrats
are simply Republicans dressed up in Wall Street Armani suits, that’s what we have
now. Thanks for joining me Howard Nations and Dave Teselle.