Republican War on Women & Santorum's Strategy - Jackson katz

jackson caps is joining a seasoned educator a filmmaker and also author of the forthcoming book leading men presidential campaigns and the cultural politics of manhood i'd jackson it's great to talk to you of i wanna but i have a bunch of questions for a book before we get into that just the kind of because this is really uh... and a field you are and i consider you an expert in give me your thoughts on how you were you're seeing this so-called war on women that now has become of very popular topic of discussion as a result of contraception and health care from proposed an actual bills coming particularly from republican politician well i think what we see happening is that all over the country in state legislatures as well national level radical right uh... main uh... people have been elected to public office and are trying to enact a knack area and again that iraq regional empty woman if you will or when the brains of gender uh... big big big you don't have been around america coffee for opted for a long time but because they think it is accepted at the party because of the movie electoral success at st early bird level we're seeing cuisines come for more than i would be to resume for a campaign the republican primaries and international platform for what again has been ongoing effort by almond butter other far right at the roll back the progress that permanent movement there are any game every movement para has a you know enjoying propelled over the last uh... several decades unfinished is thought about why we just talked yesterday about a new poll that suggest among republican women rick's and forum seems to be the most of the most preferred candidate uh... we also heard from south carolina governor with mickey haley just i think believe those on the you yesterday we spoke about it earlier saying that women don't care about contraception that's a quote and then when pressed on that by joy behar she kind of backed off of it a little bit it almost seems like not so if it makes sense that republican men would kind of want to pursue this this uh... this was a logic but even women seem to be both buying into it and even furthering it in the case of nikki hailey against their own best interest how are we seeing this happened well i'd being sold the politics iron of being a republican women trying to be here wing uh... with whatever or or state level office it's they're playing to the uh... you know if you will do the base and i think i think them talking point for the republican party debated but rather shift away from his perspective about women have a heart attack in a copy of republicans reverie at birth women be they know that were leaving i have a big problem general campaign fault and so a lot of that happening in the in the public discussion had been a problem uh... their the uh... the republican primaries they're quite good at the mo radical element the republican base uh... but now more savvy politicians are real and it is not a abutting political strategy for the general election for the community so people who are public figures public uh... republican women officeholders uh... they're doing they're out arbitrage independent away from this is conversation under that neither the winner order well the interesting thing is we've seen a couple of kind of strategies come forward over the last six or so months in response to some of these policies one of which has been specifically with planned parenthood the kind of proposal or motivation to boycott organizations that themselves are removing funding from planned parenthood i guess we can kind of debate how effective that's been but from your point of view what's really the most effective thing that those who understand the importance of women's rights in the attempts to kind of uh... uh... a road those rights what's the what's the best thing that can be done to push back against that uh... that effort well i think i had been reduced with it uh... activism and leadership uh... bull from elected officials around the you know the democratic party in the progressive that when the democratic party and it also everywhere i think i think the hope is that a lot of people have around all that important progress of vendors hope that the republicans are overplay their there are here and in this regard to that but would that work that required to be that they're gonna be so many women n men who are already bargains attempt to uh... you know to roll back when the basic uh... right uh... uh... deck deck that that electorally unpopular it'll alarm end of the ability uh... of progressive backlash against at but when it might be interesting uh... activities uh... about recent warren's popularity with certain right wing winnings but there's nothing these problems when he certainly part of the certain wing of evangelical based of the republican party right and that's important but it's not because they missed and partnered with women and i'd always be and a lot of people have been very interested in in this phenomenon why are women attracted to a candidate that somehow by c_s_ uh... being incredibly uh... anyone in at the way we see it the best if not really fair to say that because women are unified voting bloc or have unified interest that one thing i think we learned of the bath several decades there is not his a-minus category of women who have certain um... again that is i think that uh... it's complicated you know they're they're different uh... interest within the category of up women and there are you're interested in the category of of men one straight up is that that experience and discussion about resent her popularity with some of the lead adult women is that one thing that recent world advocacy talks emotionally uh... about birth about child uh... in about having children about you know he had swine lost wonder uh... you know chichi uh... so i think some forms filbert right and um... erupted fetus home and changes and it gave bryan discussed in parts of the mainstream media at least ghoulish i think that would not arrive that was not there it went in and at what they were certainly not emotionally uh... uh... tap into where a lot of people are around rejection and work with some of the some intense period i've been reading to cast the debt actually recent warren is tapping into a lot of women's read around reproductive failures or or uh... tragedy did that happen in their lives or oregon food lion women of miscarriages lobby weighed in with that fertility problem recent one m_ a_ n_ helping validate year experience of uh... lawson agreed inouye this identity politics is not about is my money spent on certain policies it baby of the public bigger and the man is getting voice to be eric's period on an emotional level relational evelyn family level and some of us are are starting to get people to make choice the bottom of the focal in tweed based on based on what some weekend par awaited resonate with only personal experience but that's how millions of people up wetzel in a sense what you're saying jackson is that he's gone above and beyond the fact that a lot of the policies he hasn't would support or actually anti-woman he's been able to transcend that in a way by identifying or at least allowing women to identify with an experience he has it's almost like he's gone up to the next here i guess any any any any role in supporting winter we're not all encourages police asking anyone it was you he was they've been saying that he's actually problem and at the indian people i want to go you know recognizing knowledge women's uh... central role has milder and it's a big boss criticism might be a good unfair criticism about that is and feminism that they don't think that is in the program is built eggnog women motherhood or we're celebrating one of the better that's completely false charge it it been a popular piece of propaganda in the past four years events don't care about motherhood motherhood and issue relating to that and excellent impact said perhaps in the metro when when cereal with the vice presidential candidate for the republican party in it came up and she and her husband had down syndrome child office it is always a car in the republican uh... to the basin in the in the media that they would somehow that uh... it certainly would somehow be a friend of people who joel disabilities day office at all we have somebody who knows who cares about us will be who can relate to our issue people who had to look at the building with discussion about policy was a disbelief with a discussion of what policies serial resume or support politically that would help people want to get some of these abilities or with just a she would understand us i think some of what's going on as an american politics b_e_t_ republicans but you don't want to go it's not about policy it really million deplorable and based on i'd are getting your identification on because when he wasn't guilty com www based we've been understands him all that stuff is not about not being it's not about uh... policy and it's been a product that personal connection absolutely jackson as always i wish we had more time we've been speaking with jackson cats educator filmmakers is author of the forthcoming book presidential campaign leading men presidential campaigns and the cultural politics of manhood uh... very much looking forward to the book jackson in a pleasure as always to talk to you