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WELCOME TO RUCKUS, OUR WEEKLY FOOD-FOR-THOUGHT FIGHT OVER THE NEWS OF THE DAY AND THE
WEEKLY FOOD-FOR-THOUGHT FIGHT OVER THE NEWS OF THE DAY AND THE TRENDS OF THE TIMES.
OVER THE NEWS OF THE DAY AND THE TRENDS OF THE TIMES. I'M MIKE SHANIN JOINED BY THE
TRENDS OF THE TIMES. I'M MIKE SHANIN JOINED BY THE RUCKETTES: KANSAS CITY STAR
I'M MIKE SHANIN JOINED BY THE RUCKETTES: KANSAS CITY STAR EDITORIAL WRITER, YAEL
RUCKETTES: KANSAS CITY STAR EDITORIAL WRITER, YAEL ABOUHALKAH; GWEN GRANT,
EDITORIAL WRITER, YAEL ABOUHALKAH; GWEN GRANT, PRESIDENT AND DR. EO OF THE
ABOUHALKAH; GWEN GRANT, PRESIDENT AND DR. EO OF THE KANSAS CITY URBAN LEAGUE; MEDIA
PRESIDENT AND DR. EO OF THE KANSAS CITY URBAN LEAGUE; MEDIA AND COMMUNICATIONS CONSULTANT,
KANSAS CITY URBAN LEAGUE; MEDIA AND COMMUNICATIONS CONSULTANT, MARY O'HALLORAN; AND CROSBY
AND COMMUNICATIONS CONSULTANT, MARY O'HALLORAN; AND CROSBY KEMPER, HEAD OF THE KANSAS CITY
MARY O'HALLORAN; AND CROSBY KEMPER, HEAD OF THE KANSAS CITY LIBRARY SYSTEM AND HOST OF
KEMPER, HEAD OF THE KANSAS CITY LIBRARY SYSTEM AND HOST OF KCPT'S MEET THE PAST PROGRAM.
LIBRARY SYSTEM AND HOST OF KCPT'S MEET THE PAST PROGRAM. THE MISSOURI BOARD OF
KCPT'S MEET THE PAST PROGRAM. THE MISSOURI BOARD OF EDUCATION DECIDES NOT TO DECIDE,
THE MISSOURI BOARD OF EDUCATION DECIDES NOT TO DECIDE, AT LEAST NOT YET, ABOUT THE
EDUCATION DECIDES NOT TO DECIDE, AT LEAST NOT YET, ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE UNACCREDITED
AT LEAST NOT YET, ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE UNACCREDITED KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI SCHOOL
FUTURE OF THE UNACCREDITED KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI SCHOOL DISTRICT.
KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI SCHOOL DISTRICT. THE KANSAS CITY STAR PUT IT THIS
DISTRICT. THE KANSAS CITY STAR PUT IT THIS WAY: ALL OF THE OPTIONS FOR THE
THE KANSAS CITY STAR PUT IT THIS WAY: ALL OF THE OPTIONS FOR THE KANSAS CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS
WAY: ALL OF THE OPTIONS FOR THE KANSAS CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS REMAIN ON THE TABLE.
KANSAS CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS REMAIN ON THE TABLE. THE STATE BOARD HAD HINTED THAT
REMAIN ON THE TABLE. THE STATE BOARD HAD HINTED THAT ONE OF SEVEN PROPOSALS FOR THE
THE STATE BOARD HAD HINTED THAT ONE OF SEVEN PROPOSALS FOR THE DISTRICT WOULD BE SELECTED AND
ONE OF SEVEN PROPOSALS FOR THE DISTRICT WOULD BE SELECTED AND INTERVENTION WOULD TAKE PLACE,
DISTRICT WOULD BE SELECTED AND INTERVENTION WOULD TAKE PLACE, AND THAT MAY STILL HAPPEN, BUT
INTERVENTION WOULD TAKE PLACE, AND THAT MAY STILL HAPPEN, BUT NOT NOW.
AND THAT MAY STILL HAPPEN, BUT NOT NOW. MR. CROSBY, ARE YOU DISAPPOINTED
NOT NOW. MR. CROSBY, ARE YOU DISAPPOINTED BY THE BOARD'S DECISION, OR
MR. CROSBY, ARE YOU DISAPPOINTED BY THE BOARD'S DECISION, OR PERHAPS MORE CORRECTLY,
BY THE BOARD'S DECISION, OR PERHAPS MORE CORRECTLY, INDECISION?
PERHAPS MORE CORRECTLY, INDECISION? WELL, THE BOARD DECIDED TO
INDECISION? WELL, THE BOARD DECIDED TO INTERVENE IN UNDERPERFORMING
WELL, THE BOARD DECIDED TO INTERVENE IN UNDERPERFORMING SCHOOLS AND HOLD THEM
INTERVENE IN UNDERPERFORMING SCHOOLS AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
SCHOOLS AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. I'M SORRY.
ACCOUNTABLE. I'M SORRY. THAT WAS IN 1993.
I'M SORRY. THAT WAS IN 1993. NO.
THAT WAS IN 1993. NO. THERE'S NO DECISION HERE, NO
NO. THERE'S NO DECISION HERE, NO INTERVENTION, NO HELP FOR THE
THERE'S NO DECISION HERE, NO INTERVENTION, NO HELP FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
INTERVENTION, NO HELP FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THEY'VE DUMBED DOWN CHRIS
SCHOOL DISTRICT. THEY'VE DUMBED DOWN CHRIS NICASTRO'S GOOD REFORM PLAN
THEY'VE DUMBED DOWN CHRIS NICASTRO'S GOOD REFORM PLAN BASED ON NEW ORLEANS SCHOOL
NICASTRO'S GOOD REFORM PLAN BASED ON NEW ORLEANS SCHOOL DISTRICT'S OUTSTANDING
BASED ON NEW ORLEANS SCHOOL DISTRICT'S OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE IN A SIMILAR PLAN.
DISTRICT'S OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE IN A SIMILAR PLAN. IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT WE
PERFORMANCE IN A SIMILAR PLAN. IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT WE SPENT 21 YEARS TALKS ABOUT SOME
IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT WE SPENT 21 YEARS TALKS ABOUT SOME STATE INTERVENTION.
SPENT 21 YEARS TALKS ABOUT SOME STATE INTERVENTION. WE PASSED SENATE BILL 380, THE
STATE INTERVENTION. WE PASSED SENATE BILL 380, THE DID HE -- DESEG PLAN AND ALL OF
WE PASSED SENATE BILL 380, THE DID HE -- DESEG PLAN AND ALL OF THESE THINGS.
DID HE -- DESEG PLAN AND ALL OF THESE THINGS. THE CHAIRMAN OF WAS THE CHAIRMAN
THESE THINGS. THE CHAIRMAN OF WAS THE CHAIRMAN 1993, I BELIEVE.
THE CHAIRMAN OF WAS THE CHAIRMAN 1993, I BELIEVE. SAME THING ALL OVER AGAIN.
1993, I BELIEVE. SAME THING ALL OVER AGAIN. LACK OF CIVIC WILL, POLITICAL
SAME THING ALL OVER AGAIN. LACK OF CIVIC WILL, POLITICAL WILL.
LACK OF CIVIC WILL, POLITICAL WILL. WE WENT THROUGH THIS BUILDUP
WILL. WE WENT THROUGH THIS BUILDUP AND THE EDUCATION COMMISSIONER
WE WENT THROUGH THIS BUILDUP AND THE EDUCATION COMMISSIONER WAS GOING TO PRESENT HER PLAN TO
AND THE EDUCATION COMMISSIONER WAS GOING TO PRESENT HER PLAN TO THE STATE BOARD, AND THEN IN
WAS GOING TO PRESENT HER PLAN TO THE STATE BOARD, AND THEN IN FEBRUARY, THERE WOULD BE A
THE STATE BOARD, AND THEN IN FEBRUARY, THERE WOULD BE A DECISION, AND AS YOU POINT OUT,
FEBRUARY, THERE WOULD BE A DECISION, AND AS YOU POINT OUT, THERE WAS NO DECISION.
DECISION, AND AS YOU POINT OUT, THERE WAS NO DECISION. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
THERE WAS NO DECISION. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. IT'S STATUS QUO.
NOTHING HAS CHANGED. IT'S STATUS QUO. THEY DID SAY WE SHOULD FOCUS
IT'S STATUS QUO. THEY DID SAY WE SHOULD FOCUS ON CHILDREN.
THEY DID SAY WE SHOULD FOCUS ON CHILDREN. FOCUS ON SCHOOLS THAT ARE NOT
ON CHILDREN. FOCUS ON SCHOOLS THAT ARE NOT DOING AS WELL AS OTHER SCHOOLS.
FOCUS ON SCHOOLS THAT ARE NOT DOING AS WELL AS OTHER SCHOOLS. THEY DESERVE MORE ATTENTION.
DOING AS WELL AS OTHER SCHOOLS. THEY DESERVE MORE ATTENTION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A
THEY DESERVE MORE ATTENTION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A COMPLETE STUDY TO FIGURE THAT
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A COMPLETE STUDY TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
COMPLETE STUDY TO FIGURE THAT OUT. ABSOLUTELY.
OUT. ABSOLUTELY. I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE,
ABSOLUTELY. I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE, CROSBY.
I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE, CROSBY. I KNOW WE WOULD AGREE ON THIS
CROSBY. I KNOW WE WOULD AGREE ON THIS ISSUE IN THAT, YOU'RE RIGHT.
I KNOW WE WOULD AGREE ON THIS ISSUE IN THAT, YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S BEEN MORE THAN 20 YEARS,
ISSUE IN THAT, YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S BEEN MORE THAN 20 YEARS, AND WE KEEP HAVING THE SAME
IT'S BEEN MORE THAN 20 YEARS, AND WE KEEP HAVING THE SAME OUTCOME, AND YOU HAVE A DISTRICT
AND WE KEEP HAVING THE SAME OUTCOME, AND YOU HAVE A DISTRICT WHERE 70% OF THE CHILDREN ARE
OUTCOME, AND YOU HAVE A DISTRICT WHERE 70% OF THE CHILDREN ARE NOT PROFICIENT IN READING AND
WHERE 70% OF THE CHILDREN ARE NOT PROFICIENT IN READING AND MATH AND SCIENCE.
NOT PROFICIENT IN READING AND MATH AND SCIENCE. THAT IS UNCONSCIONABLE, AND IT'S
MATH AND SCIENCE. THAT IS UNCONSCIONABLE, AND IT'S CRIMINAL, AND IN ORDER TO CHANGE
THAT IS UNCONSCIONABLE, AND IT'S CRIMINAL, AND IN ORDER TO CHANGE THAT FUNDAMENTALLY, SOMETHING
CRIMINAL, AND IN ORDER TO CHANGE THAT FUNDAMENTALLY, SOMETHING REALLY PROGRESSIVE REALLY NEEDS
THAT FUNDAMENTALLY, SOMETHING REALLY PROGRESSIVE REALLY NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE.
REALLY PROGRESSIVE REALLY NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE. WHAT THEY DID WAS DECIDED NOT TO
TO TAKE PLACE. WHAT THEY DID WAS DECIDED NOT TO DECIDE, AND THE BIG PROBLEM HERE
WHAT THEY DID WAS DECIDED NOT TO DECIDE, AND THE BIG PROBLEM HERE IS THE TRANSFER LAW.
DECIDE, AND THE BIG PROBLEM HERE IS THE TRANSFER LAW. THE STATE LEGISLATURE, EVERYBODY
IS THE TRANSFER LAW. THE STATE LEGISLATURE, EVERYBODY IS IN A 'TISY AND ALL OF THIS
THE STATE LEGISLATURE, EVERYBODY IS IN A 'TISY AND ALL OF THIS HYSTERIA OF WHAT MIGHT OR MIGHT
IS IN A 'TISY AND ALL OF THIS HYSTERIA OF WHAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT HAPPEN.
HYSTERIA OF WHAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT HAPPEN. I WOULD JUST PREFER THEY GET RID
NOT HAPPEN. I WOULD JUST PREFER THEY GET RID OF IT, CLEAR THE AIR SO WE CAN
I WOULD JUST PREFER THEY GET RID OF IT, CLEAR THE AIR SO WE CAN GET ON WITH INTERVENTIONS SO
OF IT, CLEAR THE AIR SO WE CAN GET ON WITH INTERVENTIONS SO KIDS CAN BE EDUCATED.
GET ON WITH INTERVENTIONS SO KIDS CAN BE EDUCATED. EVERY TIME YOU DELAY AND A
KIDS CAN BE EDUCATED. EVERY TIME YOU DELAY AND A STUDENT IS IN THE CLASSROOM WITH
EVERY TIME YOU DELAY AND A STUDENT IS IN THE CLASSROOM WITH AN UNQUALIFIED TEACHER, IT SETS
STUDENT IS IN THE CLASSROOM WITH AN UNQUALIFIED TEACHER, IT SETS THAT STUDENT BACK THREE YEARS.
AN UNQUALIFIED TEACHER, IT SETS THAT STUDENT BACK THREE YEARS. WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO KEEP
THAT STUDENT BACK THREE YEARS. WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO KEEP DELAYING THIS INTERVENTION.
WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO KEEP DELAYING THIS INTERVENTION. YAEL, THE KANSAS CITY,
DELAYING THIS INTERVENTION. YAEL, THE KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI SCHOOL DISTRICT IS
YAEL, THE KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI SCHOOL DISTRICT IS TREATING THIS AS A VICTORY, A
MISSOURI SCHOOL DISTRICT IS TREATING THIS AS A VICTORY, A GREAT DECISION.
TREATING THIS AS A VICTORY, A GREAT DECISION. SOME THINKS IT'S VERY POSITIVE,
GREAT DECISION. SOME THINKS IT'S VERY POSITIVE, I GUESS, VALIDATION OF THE WAY
SOME THINKS IT'S VERY POSITIVE, I GUESS, VALIDATION OF THE WAY THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING THINGS.
I GUESS, VALIDATION OF THE WAY THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING THINGS. IT'S POSITIVE FOR THE STATUS
THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING THINGS. IT'S POSITIVE FOR THE STATUS QUO.
IT'S POSITIVE FOR THE STATUS QUO. IT'S POSITIVE FOR STEVEN GREENE,
QUO. IT'S POSITIVE FOR STEVEN GREENE, THE SUPERINTENDENT TO SAY, HEY,
IT'S POSITIVE FOR STEVEN GREENE, THE SUPERINTENDENT TO SAY, HEY, LOOK, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS
THE SUPERINTENDENT TO SAY, HEY, LOOK, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WORKING.
LOOK, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WORKING. I BELIEVE THE STATISTIC WAS
WORKING. I BELIEVE THE STATISTIC WAS SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN 17 YEARS
I BELIEVE THE STATISTIC WAS SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN 17 YEARS THEY'LL GET UP TO THE STANDARD
SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN 17 YEARS THEY'LL GET UP TO THE STANDARD AT THE PRESENT RATE OF GROWTH.
THEY'LL GET UP TO THE STANDARD AT THE PRESENT RATE OF GROWTH. YES, IT WAS -- IT'S NOT EVEN A
AT THE PRESENT RATE OF GROWTH. YES, IT WAS -- IT'S NOT EVEN A HALF BAKED PLAN.
YES, IT WAS -- IT'S NOT EVEN A HALF BAKED PLAN. IT'S LIKE A NO-BAKED PLAN THAT
HALF BAKED PLAN. IT'S LIKE A NO-BAKED PLAN THAT CAME OUT OF THE STATE.
IT'S LIKE A NO-BAKED PLAN THAT CAME OUT OF THE STATE. THAT IS BAD.
CAME OUT OF THE STATE. THAT IS BAD. YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE
THAT IS BAD. YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE REALITY.
YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE REALITY. SO THE REALITY IS THAT GREENE
REALITY. SO THE REALITY IS THAT GREENE AND THAT ADMINISTRATION ARE
SO THE REALITY IS THAT GREENE AND THAT ADMINISTRATION ARE STILL IN CHARGE.
AND THAT ADMINISTRATION ARE STILL IN CHARGE. WHO IS GOING TO HOLD THEM
STILL IN CHARGE. WHO IS GOING TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR IMPROVING THE
WHO IS GOING TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR IMPROVING THE REALLY BAD SCHOOLS?
ACCOUNTABLE FOR IMPROVING THE REALLY BAD SCHOOLS? WELL, YOU WOULD HOPE THE STATE
REALLY BAD SCHOOLS? WELL, YOU WOULD HOPE THE STATE WOULD.
WELL, YOU WOULD HOPE THE STATE WOULD. REALLY?
WOULD. REALLY? THEY'RE NOT.
REALLY? THEY'RE NOT. SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE
THEY'RE NOT. SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE AGAIN, IT SOUNDS LIKE, THE LOCAL
SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE AGAIN, IT SOUNDS LIKE, THE LOCAL COMMUNITY, THE GROUPS LIKE GWEN
AGAIN, IT SOUNDS LIKE, THE LOCAL COMMUNITY, THE GROUPS LIKE GWEN AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE ENEMIES
COMMUNITY, THE GROUPS LIKE GWEN AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE ENEMIES OF THE SYSTEM AND TRYING TO KEEP
AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE ENEMIES OF THE SYSTEM AND TRYING TO KEEP PUTTING PRESSURE ON GREENE AND
OF THE SYSTEM AND TRYING TO KEEP PUTTING PRESSURE ON GREENE AND THE ADMINISTRATION TO DO BETTER.
PUTTING PRESSURE ON GREENE AND THE ADMINISTRATION TO DO BETTER. THAT'S THE REALITY OF IT.
THE ADMINISTRATION TO DO BETTER. THAT'S THE REALITY OF IT. REAL QUICKLY, THE TRANSFER LAW,
THAT'S THE REALITY OF IT. REAL QUICKLY, THE TRANSFER LAW, IF IT TAKES EFFECT, KANSAS CITY,
REAL QUICKLY, THE TRANSFER LAW, IF IT TAKES EFFECT, KANSAS CITY, KANSAS, BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR
IF IT TAKES EFFECT, KANSAS CITY, KANSAS, BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR MIGHT BE GOING TO RAYTOWN, NORTH
KANSAS, BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR MIGHT BE GOING TO RAYTOWN, NORTH KANSAS CITY OR WHATEVER.
MIGHT BE GOING TO RAYTOWN, NORTH KANSAS CITY OR WHATEVER. HUNDREDS OF KIDS ALREADY ARE
KANSAS CITY OR WHATEVER. HUNDREDS OF KIDS ALREADY ARE GOING TO DIFFERENT SCHOOLS.
HUNDREDS OF KIDS ALREADY ARE GOING TO DIFFERENT SCHOOLS. CHARTERS.
GOING TO DIFFERENT SCHOOLS. CHARTERS. CHARTERS AND A NUMBER OF
CHARTERS. CHARTERS AND A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PLACES, BUT THAT'S
CHARTERS AND A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PLACES, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION.
DIFFERENT PLACES, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS, WAS THIS A
ANOTHER QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS, WAS THIS A JUDICIOUS DECISION?
THE QUESTION IS, WAS THIS A JUDICIOUS DECISION? WAS THERE THE POLITICAL SUPPORT
JUDICIOUS DECISION? WAS THERE THE POLITICAL SUPPORT NECESSARY FOR A RADICAL
WAS THERE THE POLITICAL SUPPORT NECESSARY FOR A RADICAL EXPERIMENTAL CHANGE?
NECESSARY FOR A RADICAL EXPERIMENTAL CHANGE? IT'S NOT AS EXPERIMENTAL AS
EXPERIMENTAL CHANGE? IT'S NOT AS EXPERIMENTAL AS YOU ALL SAY.
IT'S NOT AS EXPERIMENTAL AS YOU ALL SAY. THERE IS EVIDENCE THE MODEL
YOU ALL SAY. THERE IS EVIDENCE THE MODEL WORKS.
THERE IS EVIDENCE THE MODEL WORKS. THE KANSAS CITY STAR
WORKS. THE KANSAS CITY STAR EDITORIAL.
THE KANSAS CITY STAR EDITORIAL. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO JUST
EDITORIAL. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO JUST TALK OVER YOU.
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO JUST TALK OVER YOU. WHAT DID YOU SAY?
TALK OVER YOU. WHAT DID YOU SAY? I SAID SOMETIMES I JUST HAVE
WHAT DID YOU SAY? I SAID SOMETIMES I JUST HAVE TO TALK OVER OVER YOU TO GET MY
I SAID SOMETIMES I JUST HAVE TO TALK OVER OVER YOU TO GET MY POINT YOU.
TO TALK OVER OVER YOU TO GET MY POINT YOU. SOMETIMES YOU DO.
POINT YOU. SOMETIMES YOU DO. BUT I GET TO TALK ONCE.
SOMETIMES YOU DO. BUT I GET TO TALK ONCE. ALL RIGHT?
BUT I GET TO TALK ONCE. ALL RIGHT? THE KANSAS CITY STAR'S HE EDITOL
ALL RIGHT? THE KANSAS CITY STAR'S HE EDITOL I THOUGHT WAS JUDICIOUS.
THE KANSAS CITY STAR'S HE EDITOL I THOUGHT WAS JUDICIOUS. I DON'T KNOW WHO WROTE IT, YAEL,
I THOUGHT WAS JUDICIOUS. I DON'T KNOW WHO WROTE IT, YAEL, BUT IT DIDN'T CALL IT A STEP
I DON'T KNOW WHO WROTE IT, YAEL, BUT IT DIDN'T CALL IT A STEP BACK.
BUT IT DIDN'T CALL IT A STEP BACK. IT CALLED IT A MODEST STEP
BACK. IT CALLED IT A MODEST STEP FORWARD IN THAT THERE IS, IN THE
IT CALLED IT A MODEST STEP FORWARD IN THAT THERE IS, IN THE DECISION THEY MADE, SOME PROCESS
FORWARD IN THAT THERE IS, IN THE DECISION THEY MADE, SOME PROCESS FOR DEALING WITH SCHOOLS THAT
DECISION THEY MADE, SOME PROCESS FOR DEALING WITH SCHOOLS THAT ARE UNACCREDITED, AND YOUR
FOR DEALING WITH SCHOOLS THAT ARE UNACCREDITED, AND YOUR NEWSPAPER SAID THAT THERE
ARE UNACCREDITED, AND YOUR NEWSPAPER SAID THAT THERE CERTAINLY IS A POSSIBILITY OF
NEWSPAPER SAID THAT THERE CERTAINLY IS A POSSIBILITY OF HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR
CERTAINLY IS A POSSIBILITY OF HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR PROGRESS, AND IF THEY'RE NOT
HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR PROGRESS, AND IF THEY'RE NOT ACCOUNTABLE, DOING SOMETHING
PROGRESS, AND IF THEY'RE NOT ACCOUNTABLE, DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT, AND THE WHAT IS YET TO
ACCOUNTABLE, DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT, AND THE WHAT IS YET TO COME.
ABOUT IT, AND THE WHAT IS YET TO COME. SAME WORDS USED 21 YEARS AGO.
COME. SAME WORDS USED 21 YEARS AGO. SAME EXACT.
SAME WORDS USED 21 YEARS AGO. SAME EXACT. HERE IS WHAT ONE KANSAS CITY
SAME EXACT. HERE IS WHAT ONE KANSAS CITY STAR EDITORIAL HAD TO SAY,
HERE IS WHAT ONE KANSAS CITY STAR EDITORIAL HAD TO SAY, NICASTRO'S PROPOSAL DOES LITTLE
STAR EDITORIAL HAD TO SAY, NICASTRO'S PROPOSAL DOES LITTLE TO CLARIFY THE MUDDLED SITUATION
NICASTRO'S PROPOSAL DOES LITTLE TO CLARIFY THE MUDDLED SITUATION FACING THE KANSAS CITY SCHOOL.
TO CLARIFY THE MUDDLED SITUATION FACING THE KANSAS CITY SCHOOL. ALL RIGHT.
FACING THE KANSAS CITY SCHOOL. ALL RIGHT. IT IS OFTEN SAID THAT HISTORY
ALL RIGHT. IT IS OFTEN SAID THAT HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF.
IT IS OFTEN SAID THAT HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF. WE'VE HAD A GOOD EXAMPLE, AND
REPEATS ITSELF. WE'VE HAD A GOOD EXAMPLE, AND HERE IS ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE.
WE'VE HAD A GOOD EXAMPLE, AND HERE IS ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE. KANSAS CITY POLICE ARE GOING TO
HERE IS ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE. KANSAS CITY POLICE ARE GOING TO CRACK DOWN ON TEENS AND YOUNG
KANSAS CITY POLICE ARE GOING TO CRACK DOWN ON TEENS AND YOUNG ADULTS WHO GATHER IN LARGE
CRACK DOWN ON TEENS AND YOUNG ADULTS WHO GATHER IN LARGE NUMBERS ON THE PLAZA AND CREATE
ADULTS WHO GATHER IN LARGE NUMBERS ON THE PLAZA AND CREATE DISTURBANCES, ESPECIALLY ON
NUMBERS ON THE PLAZA AND CREATE DISTURBANCES, ESPECIALLY ON WEEKENDS.
DISTURBANCES, ESPECIALLY ON WEEKENDS. POLICE CHIEF DARYL FORTE SAYS
WEEKENDS. POLICE CHIEF DARYL FORTE SAYS THIS CHAOS WILL NO LONGER BE
POLICE CHIEF DARYL FORTE SAYS THIS CHAOS WILL NO LONGER BE TOLERATED, AND HE IS DISCUSSING
THIS CHAOS WILL NO LONGER BE TOLERATED, AND HE IS DISCUSSING ENHANCED ENFORCEMENT WITH TOP
TOLERATED, AND HE IS DISCUSSING ENHANCED ENFORCEMENT WITH TOP COMMANDERS.
ENHANCED ENFORCEMENT WITH TOP COMMANDERS. NOW, THIS PROBLEM IS NOT NEW AND
COMMANDERS. NOW, THIS PROBLEM IS NOT NEW AND CONTINUES TO BE A CONCERN FOR
NOW, THIS PROBLEM IS NOT NEW AND CONTINUES TO BE A CONCERN FOR PLAZA MERCHANTS AND PATRONS.
CONTINUES TO BE A CONCERN FOR PLAZA MERCHANTS AND PATRONS. AUTHORITIES HAVE TRIED TO BRING
PLAZA MERCHANTS AND PATRONS. AUTHORITIES HAVE TRIED TO BRING THIS UNDER CONTROL BEFORE.
AUTHORITIES HAVE TRIED TO BRING THIS UNDER CONTROL BEFORE. SO YAEL, WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE
THIS UNDER CONTROL BEFORE. SO YAEL, WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THIS TIME?
SO YAEL, WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THIS TIME? WELL, I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO
THIS TIME? WELL, I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO SEE.
WELL, I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO SEE. THIS PAST WEEK, I WAS GOING BACK
SEE. THIS PAST WEEK, I WAS GOING BACK OVER FOR ANOTHER EDITORIAL SOME
THIS PAST WEEK, I WAS GOING BACK OVER FOR ANOTHER EDITORIAL SOME TAPES OF DIFFERENT PUBLIC SAFETY
OVER FOR ANOTHER EDITORIAL SOME TAPES OF DIFFERENT PUBLIC SAFETY MEETINGS, AND SLY JAMES SHOWED
TAPES OF DIFFERENT PUBLIC SAFETY MEETINGS, AND SLY JAMES SHOWED UP VERY IMPASSIONED THAT SAID A
MEETINGS, AND SLY JAMES SHOWED UP VERY IMPASSIONED THAT SAID A COUPLE THINGS HE COULD SAY
UP VERY IMPASSIONED THAT SAID A COUPLE THINGS HE COULD SAY TODAY.
COUPLE THINGS HE COULD SAY TODAY. PARENTS NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE.
TODAY. PARENTS NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE. THE POLICE NEED TO BE
PARENTS NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE. THE POLICE NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE.
THE POLICE NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE. THE KIDS NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE,
RESPONSIBLE. THE KIDS NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE, AND ACTUALLY SOME OF THE PATRONS
THE KIDS NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE, AND ACTUALLY SOME OF THE PATRONS ON THE PLAZA NEED TO BE
AND ACTUALLY SOME OF THE PATRONS ON THE PLAZA NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE.
ON THE PLAZA NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE. WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THIS WHOLE
RESPONSIBLE. WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THIS WHOLE SITUATION.
WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THIS WHOLE SITUATION. BUT THE PROBLEM, IS RIGHT NOW,
SITUATION. BUT THE PROBLEM, IS RIGHT NOW, THE CURFEW DOESN'T WORK FOR SOME
BUT THE PROBLEM, IS RIGHT NOW, THE CURFEW DOESN'T WORK FOR SOME OF THESE KIDS, BECAUSE THEY'RE
THE CURFEW DOESN'T WORK FOR SOME OF THESE KIDS, BECAUSE THEY'RE AT A MOVIE THEATER, AND THEY GET
OF THESE KIDS, BECAUSE THEY'RE AT A MOVIE THEATER, AND THEY GET OUT.
AT A MOVIE THEATER, AND THEY GET OUT. THEY COULD CAUSE A PROBLEM AT
OUT. THEY COULD CAUSE A PROBLEM AT 8 O'CLOCK.
THEY COULD CAUSE A PROBLEM AT 8 O'CLOCK. CURFEW IS AT 9.
8 O'CLOCK. CURFEW IS AT 9. WE DO NOT HAVE A YEAR-ROUND
CURFEW IS AT 9. WE DO NOT HAVE A YEAR-ROUND PROGRAM WHERE KIDS CAN GO AND
WE DO NOT HAVE A YEAR-ROUND PROGRAM WHERE KIDS CAN GO AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF, SO
PROGRAM WHERE KIDS CAN GO AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF, SO THAT'S NOT HELPING RIGHT NOW.
ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF, SO THAT'S NOT HELPING RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE
THAT'S NOT HELPING RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE POLICE CHIEF'S FRUSTRATION,
YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE POLICE CHIEF'S FRUSTRATION, BECAUSE WITH ALL THESE RACIAL
POLICE CHIEF'S FRUSTRATION, BECAUSE WITH ALL THESE RACIAL DIFFERENT CONNOTATIONS OF WHITE
BECAUSE WITH ALL THESE RACIAL DIFFERENT CONNOTATIONS OF WHITE PEOPLE NEVER GO TO THE PLAZA IF
DIFFERENT CONNOTATIONS OF WHITE PEOPLE NEVER GO TO THE PLAZA IF BLACK KIDS ARE CONGREGATING
PEOPLE NEVER GO TO THE PLAZA IF BLACK KIDS ARE CONGREGATING THERE.
BLACK KIDS ARE CONGREGATING THERE. WELL, WE'VE JUST COME OFF RECORD
THERE. WELL, WE'VE JUST COME OFF RECORD YEARS OF PEOPLE GOING TO THE
WELL, WE'VE JUST COME OFF RECORD YEARS OF PEOPLE GOING TO THE PLAZA, EVEN OFF THE SHOOTINGS IN
YEARS OF PEOPLE GOING TO THE PLAZA, EVEN OFF THE SHOOTINGS IN '11, PROBLEMS IN '12 AND '13.
PLAZA, EVEN OFF THE SHOOTINGS IN '11, PROBLEMS IN '12 AND '13. YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE A POLICE
'11, PROBLEMS IN '12 AND '13. YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE A POLICE PRESENCE.
YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE A POLICE PRESENCE. THAT WILL BE THERE.
PRESENCE. THAT WILL BE THERE. IT WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE FOR A
THAT WILL BE THERE. IT WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE FOR A FEW WEEKS, AND THEN IT WILL
IT WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE FOR A FEW WEEKS, AND THEN IT WILL DRIFT AWAY AND WE'LL HAVE
FEW WEEKS, AND THEN IT WILL DRIFT AWAY AND WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING IN THE SUMMER.
DRIFT AWAY AND WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING IN THE SUMMER. I'M SORRY.
SOMETHING IN THE SUMMER. I'M SORRY. I DO NOT SEE AN ANSWER TO THE
I'M SORRY. I DO NOT SEE AN ANSWER TO THE SITUATION EXCEPT FOR SOME OF
I DO NOT SEE AN ANSWER TO THE SITUATION EXCEPT FOR SOME OF THESE SUMMER PROGRAMS WILL HELP
SITUATION EXCEPT FOR SOME OF THESE SUMMER PROGRAMS WILL HELP GET SOME KIDS INTO POSITIVE
THESE SUMMER PROGRAMS WILL HELP GET SOME KIDS INTO POSITIVE ACTIVITIES.
GET SOME KIDS INTO POSITIVE ACTIVITIES. CROSBY, I THOUGHT THE CHIEF
ACTIVITIES. CROSBY, I THOUGHT THE CHIEF LOOKS MORE RESOLUTE THIS TIME,
CROSBY, I THOUGHT THE CHIEF LOOKS MORE RESOLUTE THIS TIME, MORE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS AND SAID
LOOKS MORE RESOLUTE THIS TIME, MORE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS AND SAID ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, I CAN'T DEAL
MORE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS AND SAID ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, I CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS ANYMORE.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, I CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS ANYMORE. TWO THINGS THE CITY NEEDS TO
WITH THIS ANYMORE. TWO THINGS THE CITY NEEDS TO DO TO ACTUALLY DEAL WITH THIS
TWO THINGS THE CITY NEEDS TO DO TO ACTUALLY DEAL WITH THIS PROBLEM.
DO TO ACTUALLY DEAL WITH THIS PROBLEM. ONE, THERE NEEDS TO BE A
PROBLEM. ONE, THERE NEEDS TO BE A CONSISTENT YOUTH ACTIVITY
ONE, THERE NEEDS TO BE A CONSISTENT YOUTH ACTIVITY PROGRAM GOING ON.
CONSISTENT YOUTH ACTIVITY PROGRAM GOING ON. THEY TAKE MONEY FROM THE
PROGRAM GOING ON. THEY TAKE MONEY FROM THE LIBRARY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, ET
THEY TAKE MONEY FROM THE LIBRARY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, ET CETERA, EVERY YEAR, $3 MILLION
LIBRARY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, ET CETERA, EVERY YEAR, $3 MILLION FROM THE LIBRARY, THEY GIVE A
CETERA, EVERY YEAR, $3 MILLION FROM THE LIBRARY, THEY GIVE A LITTLE BACK TO US, AND WE WOULD
FROM THE LIBRARY, THEY GIVE A LITTLE BACK TO US, AND WE WOULD HAVE ACTIVITIES FRIDAY AND
LITTLE BACK TO US, AND WE WOULD HAVE ACTIVITIES FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT.
HAVE ACTIVITIES FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT. AND THEN THEY NEED TO USE
SATURDAY NIGHT. AND THEN THEY NEED TO USE GEOGRAPHIC LOOKS AT WHERE THE
AND THEN THEY NEED TO USE GEOGRAPHIC LOOKS AT WHERE THE KIDS ARE COMING FROM.
GEOGRAPHIC LOOKS AT WHERE THE KIDS ARE COMING FROM. YAEL WROTE A GREAT EDITORIAL
KIDS ARE COMING FROM. YAEL WROTE A GREAT EDITORIAL TODAY ABOUT OUR *** PROBLEM,
YAEL WROTE A GREAT EDITORIAL TODAY ABOUT OUR *** PROBLEM, WHICH IS ESSENCE THE SAME
TODAY ABOUT OUR *** PROBLEM, WHICH IS ESSENCE THE SAME PROBLEM.
WHICH IS ESSENCE THE SAME PROBLEM. A FEW PEOPLE FROM SPECIFIC
PROBLEM. A FEW PEOPLE FROM SPECIFIC PLACES THAT CREATE DISRUPTION.
A FEW PEOPLE FROM SPECIFIC PLACES THAT CREATE DISRUPTION. IT WOULD BE VERY EASY FOR THE
PLACES THAT CREATE DISRUPTION. IT WOULD BE VERY EASY FOR THE POLICE TO TRACK THIS, AND THEY
IT WOULD BE VERY EASY FOR THE POLICE TO TRACK THIS, AND THEY NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT.
POLICE TO TRACK THIS, AND THEY NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT. MARY, THIS IS THE USUAL
NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT. MARY, THIS IS THE USUAL COMPLAINT WE HEAR, TOO LITTLE
MARY, THIS IS THE USUAL COMPLAINT WE HEAR, TOO LITTLE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO DO ON
COMPLAINT WE HEAR, TOO LITTLE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO DO ON WEEKENDS.
FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO DO ON WEEKENDS. CROSBY OFFERS ONE SUGGESTION.
WEEKENDS. CROSBY OFFERS ONE SUGGESTION. WHAT ELSE COULD BE DONE FOR
CROSBY OFFERS ONE SUGGESTION. WHAT ELSE COULD BE DONE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE ON WEEKENDS, OR CAN
WHAT ELSE COULD BE DONE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE ON WEEKENDS, OR CAN THEY PERHAPS TAKE IT UPON
YOUNG PEOPLE ON WEEKENDS, OR CAN THEY PERHAPS TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES THE RESPONSIBILITY TO
THEY PERHAPS TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES THE RESPONSIBILITY TO ENTERTAIN THEMSELVES?
THEMSELVES THE RESPONSIBILITY TO ENTERTAIN THEMSELVES? GOSH.
ENTERTAIN THEMSELVES? GOSH. I DON'T KNOW.
GOSH. I DON'T KNOW. WE SHOULD CALL JOHN SHARP AND
I DON'T KNOW. WE SHOULD CALL JOHN SHARP AND ASK.
WE SHOULD CALL JOHN SHARP AND ASK. HE'S THE ONE WHO MADE THE LIST
ASK. HE'S THE ONE WHO MADE THE LIST IN THE PAPER.
HE'S THE ONE WHO MADE THE LIST IN THE PAPER. BOWLING ALLEYS.
IN THE PAPER. BOWLING ALLEYS. WHERE ARE THE BOWLING ALLEYS
BOWLING ALLEYS. WHERE ARE THE BOWLING ALLEYS AND SO ON.
WHERE ARE THE BOWLING ALLEYS AND SO ON. THIS QUESTION, WE TALK ABOUT IT
AND SO ON. THIS QUESTION, WE TALK ABOUT IT EVERY WEEK, IT SEEMS.
THIS QUESTION, WE TALK ABOUT IT EVERY WEEK, IT SEEMS. I WASN'T THERE, AND WE HAVE COME
EVERY WEEK, IT SEEMS. I WASN'T THERE, AND WE HAVE COME TO EXPECT VERY LITTLE OF THIS
I WASN'T THERE, AND WE HAVE COME TO EXPECT VERY LITTLE OF THIS KIND OF DIFFICULTY DURING
TO EXPECT VERY LITTLE OF THIS KIND OF DIFFICULTY DURING WINTER, BUT HERE IT IS.
KIND OF DIFFICULTY DURING WINTER, BUT HERE IT IS. AND WHAT I LIKE ABOUT WHAT THE
WINTER, BUT HERE IT IS. AND WHAT I LIKE ABOUT WHAT THE CHIEF IS DOING -- THIS IS WHAT I
AND WHAT I LIKE ABOUT WHAT THE CHIEF IS DOING -- THIS IS WHAT I KEEP REPEATING WHAT I LIKE ABOUT
CHIEF IS DOING -- THIS IS WHAT I KEEP REPEATING WHAT I LIKE ABOUT IT.
KEEP REPEATING WHAT I LIKE ABOUT IT. I LIKE HIM, FIRST OF ALL.
IT. I LIKE HIM, FIRST OF ALL. SECONDLY, I THINK HE'S VERY
I LIKE HIM, FIRST OF ALL. SECONDLY, I THINK HE'S VERY CANDID.
SECONDLY, I THINK HE'S VERY CANDID. SECONDLY, I THINK HE'S TALKING
CANDID. SECONDLY, I THINK HE'S TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING RIGHT ON
SECONDLY, I THINK HE'S TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING RIGHT ON THE SPOT.
ABOUT DOING SOMETHING RIGHT ON THE SPOT. WHAT'S HAPPENING?
THE SPOT. WHAT'S HAPPENING? YOU CAN'T JAYWALK IN HUGE GROUPS
WHAT'S HAPPENING? YOU CAN'T JAYWALK IN HUGE GROUPS OF 50 PEOPLE.
YOU CAN'T JAYWALK IN HUGE GROUPS OF 50 PEOPLE. YOU CAN'T PUSH PEOPLE OFF THE
OF 50 PEOPLE. YOU CAN'T PUSH PEOPLE OFF THE SIDEWALK.
YOU CAN'T PUSH PEOPLE OFF THE SIDEWALK. YOU CAN'T GATHER IN HUGE GROUPS.
SIDEWALK. YOU CAN'T GATHER IN HUGE GROUPS. YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP MOVING THEM
YOU CAN'T GATHER IN HUGE GROUPS. YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP MOVING THEM ON.
YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP MOVING THEM ON. I THINK IF THEY WANT TO TAKE 50
ON. I THINK IF THEY WANT TO TAKE 50 KIDS AND PUT THEM IN A YOUTH
I THINK IF THEY WANT TO TAKE 50 KIDS AND PUT THEM IN A YOUTH CENTER UNTIL THEIR PARENTS COME
KIDS AND PUT THEM IN A YOUTH CENTER UNTIL THEIR PARENTS COME GET THEM UNTIL WE GET A BETTER
CENTER UNTIL THEIR PARENTS COME GET THEM UNTIL WE GET A BETTER ANSWER, SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA
GET THEM UNTIL WE GET A BETTER ANSWER, SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO ME.
ANSWER, SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO ME. IT'S MORE LIKE A HOLDING
TO ME. IT'S MORE LIKE A HOLDING CENTER, ISN'T IT, HOLDING CELL,
IT'S MORE LIKE A HOLDING CENTER, ISN'T IT, HOLDING CELL, NOT A RECREATION CENTER.
CENTER, ISN'T IT, HOLDING CELL, NOT A RECREATION CENTER. MAY I SAY SOMETHING, PLEASE?
NOT A RECREATION CENTER. MAY I SAY SOMETHING, PLEASE? I HAD CONVERSATION WITH THE
MAY I SAY SOMETHING, PLEASE? I HAD CONVERSATION WITH THE CHIEF BEFORE HIS PRESS
I HAD CONVERSATION WITH THE CHIEF BEFORE HIS PRESS CONFERENCE, AND MY INPUT TO HIM
CHIEF BEFORE HIS PRESS CONFERENCE, AND MY INPUT TO HIM WAS, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE NEED
CONFERENCE, AND MY INPUT TO HIM WAS, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE NEED TO ENFORCE THE LAW, AND ANY
WAS, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE NEED TO ENFORCE THE LAW, AND ANY BEHAVIOR THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE
TO ENFORCE THE LAW, AND ANY BEHAVIOR THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE SHOULD BE ADDRESSED, AND HE MADE
BEHAVIOR THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE SHOULD BE ADDRESSED, AND HE MADE THE RIGHT MOVE TO COME OUT AND
SHOULD BE ADDRESSED, AND HE MADE THE RIGHT MOVE TO COME OUT AND SAY, WE ARE NOT HERE TO BABY-SIT
THE RIGHT MOVE TO COME OUT AND SAY, WE ARE NOT HERE TO BABY-SIT YOUR CHILDREN.
SAY, WE ARE NOT HERE TO BABY-SIT YOUR CHILDREN. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE TAKING YOU
YOUR CHILDREN. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE TAKING YOU TO A COMMUNITY CENTER AND
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE TAKING YOU TO A COMMUNITY CENTER AND HOLDING AND THEN HAVING POLICE
TO A COMMUNITY CENTER AND HOLDING AND THEN HAVING POLICE OFFICERS HAVE TO HANG ON TO
HOLDING AND THEN HAVING POLICE OFFICERS HAVE TO HANG ON TO SOMEONE 12 OR 13 YEARS OLD
OFFICERS HAVE TO HANG ON TO SOMEONE 12 OR 13 YEARS OLD BECAUSE A RESPONSIBLE ADULT IS
SOMEONE 12 OR 13 YEARS OLD BECAUSE A RESPONSIBLE ADULT IS NOT AVAILABLE TO TAKE
BECAUSE A RESPONSIBLE ADULT IS NOT AVAILABLE TO TAKE GUARDIANSHIP OF THIS CHILD.
NOT AVAILABLE TO TAKE GUARDIANSHIP OF THIS CHILD. IT'S RIDICULOUS.
GUARDIANSHIP OF THIS CHILD. IT'S RIDICULOUS. AND TO SAY, YES, WE'VE BEEN
IT'S RIDICULOUS. AND TO SAY, YES, WE'VE BEEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION OVER
AND TO SAY, YES, WE'VE BEEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION OVER AND OVER ABOUT KIDS NEED MORE
HAVING THIS CONVERSATION OVER AND OVER ABOUT KIDS NEED MORE THINGS TO DO.
AND OVER ABOUT KIDS NEED MORE THINGS TO DO. THEY ACT UP WHEREVER THEY GO.
THINGS TO DO. THEY ACT UP WHEREVER THEY GO. AND SO THAT'S THE -- THEREIN
THEY ACT UP WHEREVER THEY GO. AND SO THAT'S THE -- THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM.
AND SO THAT'S THE -- THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM. YOU HAVE ACTIVITIES TO DO.
LIES THE PROBLEM. YOU HAVE ACTIVITIES TO DO. IF THERE IS A BOWLING THING OVER
YOU HAVE ACTIVITIES TO DO. IF THERE IS A BOWLING THING OVER HERE, A SKATING RINK SOMEWHERE,
IF THERE IS A BOWLING THING OVER HERE, A SKATING RINK SOMEWHERE, THESE SAME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
HERE, A SKATING RINK SOMEWHERE, THESE SAME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO THERE AND ACT UP.
THESE SAME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO THERE AND ACT UP. SO SOMETHINGS THAT TO BE DONE
GO THERE AND ACT UP. SO SOMETHINGS THAT TO BE DONE ABOUT THAT, ABOUT THE BEHAVIOR
SO SOMETHINGS THAT TO BE DONE ABOUT THAT, ABOUT THE BEHAVIOR ISSUE.
ABOUT THAT, ABOUT THE BEHAVIOR ISSUE. GWEN, THEY WERE AT A MOVIE
ISSUE. GWEN, THEY WERE AT A MOVIE THEATER.
GWEN, THEY WERE AT A MOVIE THEATER. EXACTLY.
THEATER. EXACTLY. THAT'S OKAY.
EXACTLY. THAT'S OKAY. WHAT ABOUT THE IDEA OF
THAT'S OKAY. WHAT ABOUT THE IDEA OF UNDERCOVER POLICE?
WHAT ABOUT THE IDEA OF UNDERCOVER POLICE? I THINK THE POLICE NEED TO BE
UNDERCOVER POLICE? I THINK THE POLICE NEED TO BE VERY VISIBLE AND NEED TO BE IN
I THINK THE POLICE NEED TO BE VERY VISIBLE AND NEED TO BE IN UNIFORM SO THEY KNOW THAT'S A
VERY VISIBLE AND NEED TO BE IN UNIFORM SO THEY KNOW THAT'S A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
UNIFORM SO THEY KNOW THAT'S A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. ONE MORE THING.
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. ONE MORE THING. WHAT ABOUT THIS IDEA OF MINORITY
ONE MORE THING. WHAT ABOUT THIS IDEA OF MINORITY ROLE MODELS STROLLING THE PLAZA?
WHAT ABOUT THIS IDEA OF MINORITY ROLE MODELS STROLLING THE PLAZA? WE HAD THAT HAPPEN ONE TIME.
ROLE MODELS STROLLING THE PLAZA? WE HAD THAT HAPPEN ONE TIME. THEY DID.
WE HAD THAT HAPPEN ONE TIME. THEY DID. THEY WENT OUT THERE AND THEY
THEY DID. THEY WENT OUT THERE AND THEY WALKED AROUND, AND NOTHING
THEY WENT OUT THERE AND THEY WALKED AROUND, AND NOTHING HAPPENED.
WALKED AROUND, AND NOTHING HAPPENED. YOU KNOW, SO THEY HAD A
HAPPENED. YOU KNOW, SO THEY HAD A PRESENCE.
YOU KNOW, SO THEY HAD A PRESENCE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
PRESENCE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THERE IS NO EASY SOLUTION TO
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THERE IS NO EASY SOLUTION TO THIS.
THERE IS NO EASY SOLUTION TO THIS. THERE IS NO EASY SOLUTION.
THIS. THERE IS NO EASY SOLUTION. WOULD YOU HAVE RESPONDED TO
THERE IS NO EASY SOLUTION. WOULD YOU HAVE RESPONDED TO AN ADULT WALKING BY WITH A ROLE
WOULD YOU HAVE RESPONDED TO AN ADULT WALKING BY WITH A ROLE MODEL SIGN ON AS A TEENAGER?
AN ADULT WALKING BY WITH A ROLE MODEL SIGN ON AS A TEENAGER? I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE.
MODEL SIGN ON AS A TEENAGER? I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE. I WOULD BE CARRYING A BRIEFCASE
I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE. I WOULD BE CARRYING A BRIEFCASE AND REACHING IN TO GET OUT MY
I WOULD BE CARRYING A BRIEFCASE AND REACHING IN TO GET OUT MY BUSINESS CARD.
AND REACHING IN TO GET OUT MY BUSINESS CARD. DISGRUNTLED KANSAS CITY
BUSINESS CARD. DISGRUNTLED KANSAS CITY CATHOLICS ARE PLACING THEIR HOPE
DISGRUNTLED KANSAS CITY CATHOLICS ARE PLACING THEIR HOPE IN THE POPE.
CATHOLICS ARE PLACING THEIR HOPE IN THE POPE. AN UNKNOWN NUMBER OF LOCAL
IN THE POPE. AN UNKNOWN NUMBER OF LOCAL WORSHIPERS SIGNED AN ONLINE
AN UNKNOWN NUMBER OF LOCAL WORSHIPERS SIGNED AN ONLINE PETITION CALLING ON POPE FRANCIS
WORSHIPERS SIGNED AN ONLINE PETITION CALLING ON POPE FRANCIS TO DISCIPLINE, FIRE, BISHOP
PETITION CALLING ON POPE FRANCIS TO DISCIPLINE, FIRE, BISHOP ROBERT FINN OF THE KANSAS CITY
TO DISCIPLINE, FIRE, BISHOP ROBERT FINN OF THE KANSAS CITY ST. JOSEPH DIOCESE.
ROBERT FINN OF THE KANSAS CITY ST. JOSEPH DIOCESE. MORE THAN 100,000 SIGNATURES
ST. JOSEPH DIOCESE. MORE THAN 100,000 SIGNATURES HAVE BEEN COLLECTED WORLDWIDE.
MORE THAN 100,000 SIGNATURES HAVE BEEN COLLECTED WORLDWIDE. THE EFFORT IS BEING DIRECTED BY
HAVE BEEN COLLECTED WORLDWIDE. THE EFFORT IS BEING DIRECTED BY A MILWAUKEE PRIEST AND
THE EFFORT IS BEING DIRECTED BY A MILWAUKEE PRIEST AND CANON-LAWYER, FATHER JAMES
A MILWAUKEE PRIEST AND CANON-LAWYER, FATHER JAMES CONNELL, WITH HELP FROM LOCAL
CANON-LAWYER, FATHER JAMES CONNELL, WITH HELP FROM LOCAL PARISHIONERS.
CONNELL, WITH HELP FROM LOCAL PARISHIONERS. BISHOP FINN IS ON PROBATION FROM
PARISHIONERS. BISHOP FINN IS ON PROBATION FROM A 2012 MISDEMEANOR CONVICTION OF
BISHOP FINN IS ON PROBATION FROM A 2012 MISDEMEANOR CONVICTION OF FAILING TO REPORT A PRIEST
A 2012 MISDEMEANOR CONVICTION OF FAILING TO REPORT A PRIEST INVOLVED WITH CHILD ***.
FAILING TO REPORT A PRIEST INVOLVED WITH CHILD ***. HOW LIKELY DO YOU THINK IT IS
INVOLVED WITH CHILD ***. HOW LIKELY DO YOU THINK IT IS THAT THE POPE WILL RESPOND
HOW LIKELY DO YOU THINK IT IS THAT THE POPE WILL RESPOND FAVORABLY TO THIS ONLINE
THAT THE POPE WILL RESPOND FAVORABLY TO THIS ONLINE CAMPAIGN, MARY?
FAVORABLY TO THIS ONLINE CAMPAIGN, MARY? WELL, I PLACE IT BETWEEN 0
CAMPAIGN, MARY? WELL, I PLACE IT BETWEEN 0 AND 10 OUT OF 100.
WELL, I PLACE IT BETWEEN 0 AND 10 OUT OF 100. HOW MUCH DO I HOPE THAT THE POPE
AND 10 OUT OF 100. HOW MUCH DO I HOPE THAT THE POPE WILL GET THE MESSAGE, THESE
HOW MUCH DO I HOPE THAT THE POPE WILL GET THE MESSAGE, THESE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE PRESENTED
WILL GET THE MESSAGE, THESE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE PRESENTED AND THE PETITIONS THAT WERE
DOCUMENTS THAT WERE PRESENTED AND THE PETITIONS THAT WERE FILED WITH THEM, THAT IT WILL BE
AND THE PETITIONS THAT WERE FILED WITH THEM, THAT IT WILL BE FORWARDED AND THE POPE WILL TAKE
FILED WITH THEM, THAT IT WILL BE FORWARDED AND THE POPE WILL TAKE NOTICE OF IT?
FORWARDED AND THE POPE WILL TAKE NOTICE OF IT? I THINK THE ODDS OF THAT ARE
NOTICE OF IT? I THINK THE ODDS OF THAT ARE VERY, VERY GREAT GIVEN THE FACT
I THINK THE ODDS OF THAT ARE VERY, VERY GREAT GIVEN THE FACT THAT THERE IS A NEW POPE, AND
VERY, VERY GREAT GIVEN THE FACT THAT THERE IS A NEW POPE, AND THE NEW POPE SEEMS TO HAVE A
THAT THERE IS A NEW POPE, AND THE NEW POPE SEEMS TO HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT IDEA ABOUT THE
THE NEW POPE SEEMS TO HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT IDEA ABOUT THE ROLE OF THE HIERARCHY IN THE
VERY DIFFERENT IDEA ABOUT THE ROLE OF THE HIERARCHY IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
ROLE OF THE HIERARCHY IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. WELL, THE POPE HAS BEEN IN
CATHOLIC CHURCH. WELL, THE POPE HAS BEEN IN OFFICE, IF YOU WILL, FOR A YEAR.
WELL, THE POPE HAS BEEN IN OFFICE, IF YOU WILL, FOR A YEAR. DON'T YOU THINK HE'S ALREADY
OFFICE, IF YOU WILL, FOR A YEAR. DON'T YOU THINK HE'S ALREADY AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN
DON'T YOU THINK HE'S ALREADY AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN KANSAS CITY?
AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN KANSAS CITY? HE NOT ONLY IS AWARE, HE HAS
KANSAS CITY? HE NOT ONLY IS AWARE, HE HAS APPOINTED, HERE WE GO AGAIN, A
HE NOT ONLY IS AWARE, HE HAS APPOINTED, HERE WE GO AGAIN, A BIG NEW COMMISSION TO LOOK AT
APPOINTED, HERE WE GO AGAIN, A BIG NEW COMMISSION TO LOOK AT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE NEXT.
BIG NEW COMMISSION TO LOOK AT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE NEXT. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS.
WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE NEXT. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT THE PEOPLE WHO PRESENTED
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT THE PEOPLE WHO PRESENTED THIS PETITION, WHO WANT BISHOP
THAT THE PEOPLE WHO PRESENTED THIS PETITION, WHO WANT BISHOP FINN, YOU KNOW, FIRED ARE PEOPLE
THIS PETITION, WHO WANT BISHOP FINN, YOU KNOW, FIRED ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GET THIS OVER WITH,
FINN, YOU KNOW, FIRED ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GET THIS OVER WITH, CLOSURE, WHATEVER WORD YOU WANT
WHO WANT TO GET THIS OVER WITH, CLOSURE, WHATEVER WORD YOU WANT TO USE.
CLOSURE, WHATEVER WORD YOU WANT TO USE. THIS DIOCESE HAS BEEN RACKED BY
TO USE. THIS DIOCESE HAS BEEN RACKED BY *** PREVERSION, PREDATORY
THIS DIOCESE HAS BEEN RACKED BY *** PREVERSION, PREDATORY BEHAVIOR, AND BISHOP FINN HAS
*** PREVERSION, PREDATORY BEHAVIOR, AND BISHOP FINN HAS PROMISED IN THE PAST AND NOT
BEHAVIOR, AND BISHOP FINN HAS PROMISED IN THE PAST AND NOT CARRIED THROUGH.
PROMISED IN THE PAST AND NOT CARRIED THROUGH. THEN HE WAS CONVICTED.
CARRIED THROUGH. THEN HE WAS CONVICTED. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS
THEN HE WAS CONVICTED. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THE CHURCH HAS NOT DISCIPLINED
BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THE CHURCH HAS NOT DISCIPLINED HIM ONCE FOR ANYTHING.
THE CHURCH HAS NOT DISCIPLINED HIM ONCE FOR ANYTHING. AND I POINT OUT HE WAS
HIM ONCE FOR ANYTHING. AND I POINT OUT HE WAS CONVICTED OF A MISDEMEANOR, NOT
AND I POINT OUT HE WAS CONVICTED OF A MISDEMEANOR, NOT A FELONY.
CONVICTED OF A MISDEMEANOR, NOT A FELONY. HE'S NOT ACCUSED OF ANY
A FELONY. HE'S NOT ACCUSED OF ANY MISCONDUCT WITH A CHILD.
HE'S NOT ACCUSED OF ANY MISCONDUCT WITH A CHILD. HE PLED GUILTY.
MISCONDUCT WITH A CHILD. HE PLED GUILTY. I UNDERSTAND, BUT HE'S NOT
HE PLED GUILTY. I UNDERSTAND, BUT HE'S NOT ACCUSED ANY PERSONAL MISCONDUCT
I UNDERSTAND, BUT HE'S NOT ACCUSED ANY PERSONAL MISCONDUCT WITH A CHILD.
ACCUSED ANY PERSONAL MISCONDUCT WITH A CHILD. WE KNOW THAT.
WITH A CHILD. WE KNOW THAT. TO ME, IT'S ALMOST LIKE JAPAN
WE KNOW THAT. TO ME, IT'S ALMOST LIKE JAPAN WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO RESIGN
TO ME, IT'S ALMOST LIKE JAPAN WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO RESIGN FROM LARGE CORPORATIONS BECAUSE
WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO RESIGN FROM LARGE CORPORATIONS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY MAKE THE
FROM LARGE CORPORATIONS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY MAKE THE MISTAKE, BUT THE ORGANIZATION
THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY MAKE THE MISTAKE, BUT THE ORGANIZATION MADE A MISTAKE, AND IN THIS
MISTAKE, BUT THE ORGANIZATION MADE A MISTAKE, AND IN THIS CASE, IT'S VERY UNUSUAL FOR ANY
MADE A MISTAKE, AND IN THIS CASE, IT'S VERY UNUSUAL FOR ANY BISHOP TO BE ACCUSED AND
CASE, IT'S VERY UNUSUAL FOR ANY BISHOP TO BE ACCUSED AND CONVICTED OF A MISDEMEANOR IN
BISHOP TO BE ACCUSED AND CONVICTED OF A MISDEMEANOR IN THIS TYPE THING, SO THAT'S A
CONVICTED OF A MISDEMEANOR IN THIS TYPE THING, SO THAT'S A STRIKE AGAINST HIM.
THIS TYPE THING, SO THAT'S A STRIKE AGAINST HIM. AND THE OTHER THING IS THE
STRIKE AGAINST HIM. AND THE OTHER THING IS THE CONTINUING CONTROVERSY IN THIS
AND THE OTHER THING IS THE CONTINUING CONTROVERSY IN THIS QUADRANT OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
CONTINUING CONTROVERSY IN THIS QUADRANT OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WHERE YOU WOULD THINK THAT A
QUADRANT OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WHERE YOU WOULD THINK THAT A POPE OR SOMEBODY WOULD SAY, WE
WHERE YOU WOULD THINK THAT A POPE OR SOMEBODY WOULD SAY, WE NEED TO MOVE BEYOND THIS.
POPE OR SOMEBODY WOULD SAY, WE NEED TO MOVE BEYOND THIS. UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT GUILTY OF
NEED TO MOVE BEYOND THIS. UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT GUILTY OF THE ACTUAL ACT ITSELF, BUT YOU
UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT GUILTY OF THE ACTUAL ACT ITSELF, BUT YOU NEED TO STEP ASIDE SO WE CAN GET
THE ACTUAL ACT ITSELF, BUT YOU NEED TO STEP ASIDE SO WE CAN GET BACK TO A MORE PROGRESSIVE
NEED TO STEP ASIDE SO WE CAN GET BACK TO A MORE PROGRESSIVE ATTITUDE HERE AND GET YOUR
BACK TO A MORE PROGRESSIVE ATTITUDE HERE AND GET YOUR TAINTED REGIME BEHIND US.
ATTITUDE HERE AND GET YOUR TAINTED REGIME BEHIND US. SO THAT'S WHY I GUESS I WOULD
TAINTED REGIME BEHIND US. SO THAT'S WHY I GUESS I WOULD PUT THE ODDS A LITTLE HIGHER
SO THAT'S WHY I GUESS I WOULD PUT THE ODDS A LITTLE HIGHER WHERE SOMEBODY COULD LOOK AT THE
PUT THE ODDS A LITTLE HIGHER WHERE SOMEBODY COULD LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE AND GO, THIS IS
WHERE SOMEBODY COULD LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE AND GO, THIS IS UNUSUAL.
EVIDENCE AND GO, THIS IS UNUSUAL. WE NEED TO HAVE KANSAS CITY AND
UNUSUAL. WE NEED TO HAVE KANSAS CITY AND WEST MISSOURI BE A BETTER, MORE
WE NEED TO HAVE KANSAS CITY AND WEST MISSOURI BE A BETTER, MORE PROGRESSIVE ATTITUDE.
WEST MISSOURI BE A BETTER, MORE PROGRESSIVE ATTITUDE. YOU'RE GONE, BISHOP FINN.
PROGRESSIVE ATTITUDE. YOU'RE GONE, BISHOP FINN. BUT WOULDN'T THE POPE SET A
YOU'RE GONE, BISHOP FINN. BUT WOULDN'T THE POPE SET A BAD PRECEDENT IF HE TAKES ACTION
BUT WOULDN'T THE POPE SET A BAD PRECEDENT IF HE TAKES ACTION FROM AN ONLINE PETITION.
BAD PRECEDENT IF HE TAKES ACTION FROM AN ONLINE PETITION. WE'RE TALKING HUNDREDS OF
FROM AN ONLINE PETITION. WE'RE TALKING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CATHOLICS THAT HAVE
WE'RE TALKING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CATHOLICS THAT HAVE NO IDEA OF KANSAS CITY
THOUSANDS OF CATHOLICS THAT HAVE NO IDEA OF KANSAS CITY SPECIFICALLY.
NO IDEA OF KANSAS CITY SPECIFICALLY. CAN WE HAVE THE POPE REACTING TO
SPECIFICALLY. CAN WE HAVE THE POPE REACTING TO ONLINE PETITIONS?
CAN WE HAVE THE POPE REACTING TO ONLINE PETITIONS? I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THAT.
ONLINE PETITIONS? I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THAT. I THINK THERE IS A CERTAIN
I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THAT. I THINK THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HYSTERIA ON BOTH SIDES
I THINK THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HYSTERIA ON BOTH SIDES ABOUT THIS WHERE PEOPLE WHO
AMOUNT OF HYSTERIA ON BOTH SIDES ABOUT THIS WHERE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T, IN FACT, INVOLVED IN
ABOUT THIS WHERE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T, IN FACT, INVOLVED IN LOCAL PARISHES ARE DEEPLY
AREN'T, IN FACT, INVOLVED IN LOCAL PARISHES ARE DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THIS CONTROVERSY.
LOCAL PARISHES ARE DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THIS CONTROVERSY. I DO THINK THAT THE ULTIMATE
INVOLVED IN THIS CONTROVERSY. I DO THINK THAT THE ULTIMATE ISSUE IS AN ISSUE FROM THE
I DO THINK THAT THE ULTIMATE ISSUE IS AN ISSUE FROM THE CHURCH'S POINT OF VIEW THAT, YOU
ISSUE IS AN ISSUE FROM THE CHURCH'S POINT OF VIEW THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LOTS OF
CHURCH'S POINT OF VIEW THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LOTS OF ORGANIZATIONS FROM NEWSPAPERS TO
KNOW, THERE ARE LOTS OF ORGANIZATIONS FROM NEWSPAPERS TO POLITICAL PARTIES, ET CETERA,
ORGANIZATIONS FROM NEWSPAPERS TO POLITICAL PARTIES, ET CETERA, WHO DON'T DISCIPLINE THEIR --
POLITICAL PARTIES, ET CETERA, WHO DON'T DISCIPLINE THEIR -- DON'T HAVE AN INSTITUTIONAL
WHO DON'T DISCIPLINE THEIR -- DON'T HAVE AN INSTITUTIONAL DISCIPLINE THAT WE'RE DEMANDING
DON'T HAVE AN INSTITUTIONAL DISCIPLINE THAT WE'RE DEMANDING OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND OTHER
DISCIPLINE THAT WE'RE DEMANDING OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND OTHER CHURCHES, BUT MAYBE CHURCHES
OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND OTHER CHURCHES, BUT MAYBE CHURCHES SHOULD HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF
CHURCHES, BUT MAYBE CHURCHES SHOULD HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF HYGIENE.
SHOULD HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF HYGIENE. SO I THINK THE POPE WOULD MISS A
HYGIENE. SO I THINK THE POPE WOULD MISS A BAT IF HE DIDN'T DO SOMETHING
SO I THINK THE POPE WOULD MISS A BAT IF HE DIDN'T DO SOMETHING HERE, THOUGH I DO THINK THERE IS
BAT IF HE DIDN'T DO SOMETHING HERE, THOUGH I DO THINK THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HYSTERIA.
HERE, THOUGH I DO THINK THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HYSTERIA. THERE WILL PROBABLY BE SOME
A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HYSTERIA. THERE WILL PROBABLY BE SOME DELAY THEN, I WOULD THINK, IF HE
THERE WILL PROBABLY BE SOME DELAY THEN, I WOULD THINK, IF HE WERE GOING TO ACT.
DELAY THEN, I WOULD THINK, IF HE WERE GOING TO ACT. HE WOULDN'T WANT TO APPEAR THAT
WERE GOING TO ACT. HE WOULDN'T WANT TO APPEAR THAT HE'S RESPONDING TO A PETITION
HE WOULDN'T WANT TO APPEAR THAT HE'S RESPONDING TO A PETITION ONLINE OR HE COULD START BEING
HE'S RESPONDING TO A PETITION ONLINE OR HE COULD START BEING DELUGED WITH THEM.
ONLINE OR HE COULD START BEING DELUGED WITH THEM. EVERYONE KNOWS THERE IS NO
DELUGED WITH THEM. EVERYONE KNOWS THERE IS NO DEMOCRATIC PROCESS IN THE
EVERYONE KNOWS THERE IS NO DEMOCRATIC PROCESS IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
DEMOCRATIC PROCESS IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. THERE ISN'T.
CATHOLIC CHURCH. THERE ISN'T. WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY FOR
THERE ISN'T. WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY FOR PEOPLE -- EXCEPT THAT, CROSBY, I
WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY FOR PEOPLE -- EXCEPT THAT, CROSBY, I KNOW NO ONE -- SISTER JANE
PEOPLE -- EXCEPT THAT, CROSBY, I KNOW NO ONE -- SISTER JANE CHRISTIAN AND I KNOW EVERY
KNOW NO ONE -- SISTER JANE CHRISTIAN AND I KNOW EVERY SINGLE PERSON INVOLVED IN THIS
CHRISTIAN AND I KNOW EVERY SINGLE PERSON INVOLVED IN THIS EFFORT, AND THEY ARE ALL --.
SINGLE PERSON INVOLVED IN THIS EFFORT, AND THEY ARE ALL --. ALL 100,000?
EFFORT, AND THEY ARE ALL --. ALL 100,000? NO.
ALL 100,000? NO. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE LOCAL ONES
NO. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE LOCAL ONES THAT HAVE ORGANIZED THIS EFFORT
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE LOCAL ONES THAT HAVE ORGANIZED THIS EFFORT TO LET HIM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
THAT HAVE ORGANIZED THIS EFFORT TO LET HIM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. EVERY ONE OF THEM BELONGS TO A
TO LET HIM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. EVERY ONE OF THEM BELONGS TO A PERISH, AND EVERY ONE OF THEM IS
EVERY ONE OF THEM BELONGS TO A PERISH, AND EVERY ONE OF THEM IS DEEPLY ENGAGED IN THIS QUESTION.
PERISH, AND EVERY ONE OF THEM IS DEEPLY ENGAGED IN THIS QUESTION. THEY ARE NOT TAKING IT LIGHTLY.
DEEPLY ENGAGED IN THIS QUESTION. THEY ARE NOT TAKING IT LIGHTLY. BILL DONAHUE, THE PRESIDENT
THEY ARE NOT TAKING IT LIGHTLY. BILL DONAHUE, THE PRESIDENT OF THE CATHOLIC LEAGUE, WHICH IS
BILL DONAHUE, THE PRESIDENT OF THE CATHOLIC LEAGUE, WHICH IS DESCRIBED BY ITSELF AS THE
OF THE CATHOLIC LEAGUE, WHICH IS DESCRIBED BY ITSELF AS THE LARGEST CATHOLIC CIVIL RIGHTS
DESCRIBED BY ITSELF AS THE LARGEST CATHOLIC CIVIL RIGHTS ORGANIZATION IN THE COUNTRY,
LARGEST CATHOLIC CIVIL RIGHTS ORGANIZATION IN THE COUNTRY, SAYS IT STANDS BY PISH OPP FINN
ORGANIZATION IN THE COUNTRY, SAYS IT STANDS BY PISH OPP FINN WITHOUT RESERVATION.
SAYS IT STANDS BY PISH OPP FINN WITHOUT RESERVATION. WHAT'S AT STAKE GOES WELL BEYOND
WITHOUT RESERVATION. WHAT'S AT STAKE GOES WELL BEYOND KANSAS CITY.
WHAT'S AT STAKE GOES WELL BEYOND KANSAS CITY. IT SHOULD BE CLEAR BY NOW THAT
KANSAS CITY. IT SHOULD BE CLEAR BY NOW THAT THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO HAVE THE
IT SHOULD BE CLEAR BY NOW THAT THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO HAVE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CEDE ITS
THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO HAVE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CEDE ITS AUTONOMY TO THE STATE.
CATHOLIC CHURCH CEDE ITS AUTONOMY TO THE STATE. THEY ARE NOW ASKING BISHOP FINN
AUTONOMY TO THE STATE. THEY ARE NOW ASKING BISHOP FINN TO DIG A HOLE IN THE FIRST
THEY ARE NOW ASKING BISHOP FINN TO DIG A HOLE IN THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
TO DIG A HOLE IN THE FIRST AMENDMENT. HE ALSO IN THAT STATEMENT
AMENDMENT. HE ALSO IN THAT STATEMENT DEFENDS THE CROTCH PICTURES THAT
HE ALSO IN THAT STATEMENT DEFENDS THE CROTCH PICTURES THAT WERE TAKEN.
DEFENDS THE CROTCH PICTURES THAT WERE TAKEN. HE SAYS IT'S FROM AN
WERE TAKEN. HE SAYS IT'S FROM AN ADVERTISEMENT THAT HE TRIED TO
HE SAYS IT'S FROM AN ADVERTISEMENT THAT HE TRIED TO HAVE RUN IN THE KANSAS CITY STAR
ADVERTISEMENT THAT HE TRIED TO HAVE RUN IN THE KANSAS CITY STAR AND THE STAR REFUSED.
HAVE RUN IN THE KANSAS CITY STAR AND THE STAR REFUSED. LET'S REMEMBER THE CROTCH
AND THE STAR REFUSED. LET'S REMEMBER THE CROTCH PICTURES GOT THE PRIEST WHO DID
LET'S REMEMBER THE CROTCH PICTURES GOT THE PRIEST WHO DID THAT 50 YEARS IN PRISON.
PICTURES GOT THE PRIEST WHO DID THAT 50 YEARS IN PRISON. THE SECOND ONES WITHOUT
THAT 50 YEARS IN PRISON. THE SECOND ONES WITHOUT CLOTHES.
THE SECOND ONES WITHOUT CLOTHES. OKAY.
CLOTHES. OKAY. WE CAN END THAT SECTION AND
OKAY. WE CAN END THAT SECTION AND MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE.
WE CAN END THAT SECTION AND MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE. WE ALWAYS SAY THAT RUCKUS IS
MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE. WE ALWAYS SAY THAT RUCKUS IS ABOUT BOTH THE NEWS OF THE DAY
WE ALWAYS SAY THAT RUCKUS IS ABOUT BOTH THE NEWS OF THE DAY AND THE TRENDS OF THE TIMES.
ABOUT BOTH THE NEWS OF THE DAY AND THE TRENDS OF THE TIMES. THIS PAST WEEK OR SO, SOME NEWS
AND THE TRENDS OF THE TIMES. THIS PAST WEEK OR SO, SOME NEWS FROM KANSAS REFLECTS ONE OF
THIS PAST WEEK OR SO, SOME NEWS FROM KANSAS REFLECTS ONE OF THOSE TRENDS.
FROM KANSAS REFLECTS ONE OF THOSE TRENDS. GROWING CONTROVERSY ABOUT AND
THOSE TRENDS. GROWING CONTROVERSY ABOUT AND INCREASING ACCEPTANCE OF GAY
GROWING CONTROVERSY ABOUT AND INCREASING ACCEPTANCE OF GAY RIGHTS AND GAY MARRIAGE.
INCREASING ACCEPTANCE OF GAY RIGHTS AND GAY MARRIAGE. KANSAS LEGISLATORS TRIGGERED
RIGHTS AND GAY MARRIAGE. KANSAS LEGISLATORS TRIGGERED NEGATIVE REACTION ACROSS THE
KANSAS LEGISLATORS TRIGGERED NEGATIVE REACTION ACROSS THE STATE AND AROUND THE COUNTRY BY
NEGATIVE REACTION ACROSS THE STATE AND AROUND THE COUNTRY BY APPROVING A BILL THAT SAYS
STATE AND AROUND THE COUNTRY BY APPROVING A BILL THAT SAYS RELIGIOUS BELIEFS CAN PERMIT
APPROVING A BILL THAT SAYS RELIGIOUS BELIEFS CAN PERMIT KANSAS BUSINESSES TO REFUSE
RELIGIOUS BELIEFS CAN PERMIT KANSAS BUSINESSES TO REFUSE SERVICE TO GAY COUPLES.
KANSAS BUSINESSES TO REFUSE SERVICE TO GAY COUPLES. THE STATE SENATE, HOWEVER,
SERVICE TO GAY COUPLES. THE STATE SENATE, HOWEVER, REFUSES TO CONSIDER THE BILL,
THE STATE SENATE, HOWEVER, REFUSES TO CONSIDER THE BILL, WHICH IS NOW DEAD.
REFUSES TO CONSIDER THE BILL, WHICH IS NOW DEAD. AT LEAST 17 STATES NOW SANCTION
WHICH IS NOW DEAD. AT LEAST 17 STATES NOW SANCTION GAY MARRIAGE.
AT LEAST 17 STATES NOW SANCTION GAY MARRIAGE. THE FEDERAL COURTS HAVE STRUCK
GAY MARRIAGE. THE FEDERAL COURTS HAVE STRUCK DOWN GAY MARRIAGE BANS IN SOME
THE FEDERAL COURTS HAVE STRUCK DOWN GAY MARRIAGE BANS IN SOME STATES, AND OPPONENTS OF GAY
DOWN GAY MARRIAGE BANS IN SOME STATES, AND OPPONENTS OF GAY MARRIAGE WORRY THAT MISSOURI AND
STATES, AND OPPONENTS OF GAY MARRIAGE WORRY THAT MISSOURI AND KANSAS MAY BE NEXT.
MARRIAGE WORRY THAT MISSOURI AND KANSAS MAY BE NEXT. CLEARLY, THERE HAS BEEN DRAMATIC
KANSAS MAY BE NEXT. CLEARLY, THERE HAS BEEN DRAMATIC CHANGE IN HOW AMERICANS LOOK AT
CLEARLY, THERE HAS BEEN DRAMATIC CHANGE IN HOW AMERICANS LOOK AT THIS ISSUE.
CHANGE IN HOW AMERICANS LOOK AT THIS ISSUE. GWEN, IS MORE CHANGE IMMINENT?
THIS ISSUE. GWEN, IS MORE CHANGE IMMINENT? I CERTAINLY HOPE SO.
GWEN, IS MORE CHANGE IMMINENT? I CERTAINLY HOPE SO. BUT CERTAINLY IN THE STATE OF --
I CERTAINLY HOPE SO. BUT CERTAINLY IN THE STATE OF -- FIRST OFF, WHAT IN THE WORLD IS
BUT CERTAINLY IN THE STATE OF -- FIRST OFF, WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON IN KANSAS?
FIRST OFF, WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON IN KANSAS? I MEAN, SERIOUSLY.
GOING ON IN KANSAS? I MEAN, SERIOUSLY. THIS BILL, THANK GOD, THE SENATE
I MEAN, SERIOUSLY. THIS BILL, THANK GOD, THE SENATE SAYS IT WILL NEVER SEE THE LIGHT
THIS BILL, THANK GOD, THE SENATE SAYS IT WILL NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY.
SAYS IT WILL NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY. THE SENATE, BY THE WAY,
OF DAY. THE SENATE, BY THE WAY, CONTROLLED BY THE REPUBLICANS.
THE SENATE, BY THE WAY, CONTROLLED BY THE REPUBLICANS. YES.
CONTROLLED BY THE REPUBLICANS. YES. GOOD THAT THERE IS SOMEONE OVER
YES. GOOD THAT THERE IS SOMEONE OVER THERE THAT'S GOT SOME SENSE,
GOOD THAT THERE IS SOMEONE OVER THERE THAT'S GOT SOME SENSE, BECAUSE THAT WAS A RIDICULOUS
THERE THAT'S GOT SOME SENSE, BECAUSE THAT WAS A RIDICULOUS BILL IN THE FIRST PLACE.
BECAUSE THAT WAS A RIDICULOUS BILL IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT NEVER SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN OUT.
BILL IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT NEVER SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN OUT. WHAT KIND OF CHANGE DO YOU
IT NEVER SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN OUT. WHAT KIND OF CHANGE DO YOU THINK IS COMING?
WHAT KIND OF CHANGE DO YOU THINK IS COMING? I'M HOPEFUL THAT MORE CHANGE
THINK IS COMING? I'M HOPEFUL THAT MORE CHANGE IS COMING THAT PEOPLE IN THE GAY
I'M HOPEFUL THAT MORE CHANGE IS COMING THAT PEOPLE IN THE GAY COMMUNITY WILL BE AFFORDED THE
IS COMING THAT PEOPLE IN THE GAY COMMUNITY WILL BE AFFORDED THE SAME RIGHTS AS HETEROSEXUALS
COMMUNITY WILL BE AFFORDED THE SAME RIGHTS AS HETEROSEXUALS THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY.
SAME RIGHTS AS HETEROSEXUALS THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY. I MEAN, THESE ARE CIVIL RIGHTS
THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY. I MEAN, THESE ARE CIVIL RIGHTS THAT ARE BEING DENIED.
I MEAN, THESE ARE CIVIL RIGHTS THAT ARE BEING DENIED. WELL, POLLING SEEMS TO
THAT ARE BEING DENIED. WELL, POLLING SEEMS TO SUGGEST A MAJORITY, AT LEAST, OF
WELL, POLLING SEEMS TO SUGGEST A MAJORITY, AT LEAST, OF AMERICANS AGREE WITH THAT.
SUGGEST A MAJORITY, AT LEAST, OF AMERICANS AGREE WITH THAT. ABSOLUTELY.
AMERICANS AGREE WITH THAT. ABSOLUTELY. AND SO THE ACLU, WE KNOW LAST
ABSOLUTELY. AND SO THE ACLU, WE KNOW LAST WEEK HAS VOWED A SUIT IN THE
AND SO THE ACLU, WE KNOW LAST WEEK HAS VOWED A SUIT IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI SO THAT GAY
WEEK HAS VOWED A SUIT IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI SO THAT GAY COUPLES THAT WERE MARRIED IN
STATE OF MISSOURI SO THAT GAY COUPLES THAT WERE MARRIED IN OTHER STATES, THAT THEIR UNIONS
COUPLES THAT WERE MARRIED IN OTHER STATES, THAT THEIR UNIONS WILL BE RECOGNIZED IN THE STATE
OTHER STATES, THAT THEIR UNIONS WILL BE RECOGNIZED IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI.
WILL BE RECOGNIZED IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI. THEY'RE ALSO FILING SUIT TO
OF MISSOURI. THEY'RE ALSO FILING SUIT TO HAVE THE GAY MARRIAGE AMENDMENT
THEY'RE ALSO FILING SUIT TO HAVE THE GAY MARRIAGE AMENDMENT OVERTURNED, I BELIEVE.
HAVE THE GAY MARRIAGE AMENDMENT OVERTURNED, I BELIEVE. YEAH.
OVERTURNED, I BELIEVE. YEAH. HOPEFULLY WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
YEAH. HOPEFULLY WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. THE COUNTRY'S VIEWS ON GAY
HOPEFULLY WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. THE COUNTRY'S VIEWS ON GAY MARRIAGE AND GAY RIGHTS CONTINUE
THE COUNTRY'S VIEWS ON GAY MARRIAGE AND GAY RIGHTS CONTINUE TO EVOLVE, AND I THINK KANSAS
MARRIAGE AND GAY RIGHTS CONTINUE TO EVOLVE, AND I THINK KANSAS AND MISSOURI NEED TO WAKE UP AND
TO EVOLVE, AND I THINK KANSAS AND MISSOURI NEED TO WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A
AND MISSOURI NEED TO WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A NEW DAY.
REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A NEW DAY. IT'S TIME TO GIVE PEOPLE --
NEW DAY. IT'S TIME TO GIVE PEOPLE -- EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME
IT'S TIME TO GIVE PEOPLE -- EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS.
EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS. IT'S A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE, AS
RIGHTS. IT'S A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
IT'S A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. CROSBY, YOU'RE THE COFOUNDER
FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. CROSBY, YOU'RE THE COFOUNDER OF THE SHOW-ME INSTITUTE, WHICH
CROSBY, YOU'RE THE COFOUNDER OF THE SHOW-ME INSTITUTE, WHICH YOU DESCRIBE AS A LIBERTARIAN
OF THE SHOW-ME INSTITUTE, WHICH YOU DESCRIBE AS A LIBERTARIAN THINK-TANK.
YOU DESCRIBE AS A LIBERTARIAN THINK-TANK. LIBERTARIANS OFTEN BELIEVE TO
THINK-TANK. LIBERTARIANS OFTEN BELIEVE TO LIVE AND LET LIVE.
LIBERTARIANS OFTEN BELIEVE TO LIVE AND LET LIVE. WHAT'S THE LIBERTARIAN VIEW ON
LIVE AND LET LIVE. WHAT'S THE LIBERTARIAN VIEW ON GAY MARRIAGE?
WHAT'S THE LIBERTARIAN VIEW ON GAY MARRIAGE? THE SHOW-M INSTITUTE HAS NO
GAY MARRIAGE? THE SHOW-M INSTITUTE HAS NO POSITION ON GAY MARRIAGE.
THE SHOW-M INSTITUTE HAS NO POSITION ON GAY MARRIAGE. MY OWN PERSONAL FEELING IS, THE
POSITION ON GAY MARRIAGE. MY OWN PERSONAL FEELING IS, THE MORALS IN THE WORLD HAVE
MY OWN PERSONAL FEELING IS, THE MORALS IN THE WORLD HAVE CHANGED, AND WE'VE CHANGED
MORALS IN THE WORLD HAVE CHANGED, AND WE'VE CHANGED SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN TRUE FOR
CHANGED, AND WE'VE CHANGED SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN TRUE FOR 2,000 YEARS AND MORE OVER THE
SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN TRUE FOR 2,000 YEARS AND MORE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, SO I THINK WE
2,000 YEARS AND MORE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, SO I THINK WE ALL -- MY CHRISTIAN VIEW OF THIS
LAST FIVE YEARS, SO I THINK WE ALL -- MY CHRISTIAN VIEW OF THIS IS THAT WE ALL NEED TO EMBRACE
ALL -- MY CHRISTIAN VIEW OF THIS IS THAT WE ALL NEED TO EMBRACE EACH OTHER AND FIGURE THIS OUT
IS THAT WE ALL NEED TO EMBRACE EACH OTHER AND FIGURE THIS OUT OVER TIME.
EACH OTHER AND FIGURE THIS OUT OVER TIME. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GAY
OVER TIME. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GAY KANSANS, THE MUSICAL AT
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GAY KANSANS, THE MUSICAL AT STARLIGHT AT SOME TIME IN THE
KANSANS, THE MUSICAL AT STARLIGHT AT SOME TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
STARLIGHT AT SOME TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE. YAEL, WEIGH IN ON THIS.
NEAR FUTURE. YAEL, WEIGH IN ON THIS. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?
YAEL, WEIGH IN ON THIS. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE NEED
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE NEED NEW LEADERS.
ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE NEED NEW LEADERS. I POINTED OUT LAST WEEK AN
NEW LEADERS. I POINTED OUT LAST WEEK AN ARTICLE ABOUT THE KANSAS HOUSE.
I POINTED OUT LAST WEEK AN ARTICLE ABOUT THE KANSAS HOUSE. SOMEBODY ELECTED THOSE PEOPLE.
ARTICLE ABOUT THE KANSAS HOUSE. SOMEBODY ELECTED THOSE PEOPLE. WELL, IT'S THE PEOPLE OF KANSAS.
SOMEBODY ELECTED THOSE PEOPLE. WELL, IT'S THE PEOPLE OF KANSAS. ARE THE PEOPLE OF KANSAS REALLY
WELL, IT'S THE PEOPLE OF KANSAS. ARE THE PEOPLE OF KANSAS REALLY THAT BACKWARD?
ARE THE PEOPLE OF KANSAS REALLY THAT BACKWARD? I DON'T THINK SO.
THAT BACKWARD? I DON'T THINK SO. CERTAINLY IN PARTS OF THE STATE
I DON'T THINK SO. CERTAINLY IN PARTS OF THE STATE THEY ARE.
CERTAINLY IN PARTS OF THE STATE THEY ARE. YOU WOULD HOPE THAT IN BOTH
THEY ARE. YOU WOULD HOPE THAT IN BOTH KANSAS -- YOU ASKED SPECIFICALLY
YOU WOULD HOPE THAT IN BOTH KANSAS -- YOU ASKED SPECIFICALLY IN KANSAS AND MISSOURI, WHAT'S
KANSAS -- YOU ASKED SPECIFICALLY IN KANSAS AND MISSOURI, WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE?
IN KANSAS AND MISSOURI, WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE? THE ULTIMATE WOULD BE GAY
GOING TO CHANGE? THE ULTIMATE WOULD BE GAY MARRIAGE IS ALLOWED.
THE ULTIMATE WOULD BE GAY MARRIAGE IS ALLOWED. BOTH STATES DON'T ALLOW IT NOW.
MARRIAGE IS ALLOWED. BOTH STATES DON'T ALLOW IT NOW. WOULD IT HAVE TO COME THROUGH
BOTH STATES DON'T ALLOW IT NOW. WOULD IT HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE COURT?
WOULD IT HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE COURT? GLIERKS.
THE COURT? GLIERKS. WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE
GLIERKS. WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE CERTAINLY IN MISSOURI, IT'S
WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE CERTAINLY IN MISSOURI, IT'S GOING TO, AND PROBABLY KANSAS,
CERTAINLY IN MISSOURI, IT'S GOING TO, AND PROBABLY KANSAS, TOO.
GOING TO, AND PROBABLY KANSAS, TOO. BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN
TOO. BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY AND 70% OF MISSOURIANS
BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY AND 70% OF MISSOURIANS VOTED AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE,
DEMOCRACY AND 70% OF MISSOURIANS VOTED AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE, DON'T WE HAVE TO CHANGE THINGS
VOTED AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE, DON'T WE HAVE TO CHANGE THINGS SLOWLY?
DON'T WE HAVE TO CHANGE THINGS SLOWLY? NO, NOT NECESSARILY.
SLOWLY? NO, NOT NECESSARILY. CROSBY, HERE IS WHY.
NO, NOT NECESSARILY. CROSBY, HERE IS WHY. *** WAS THERE, THIS IS NOT
CROSBY, HERE IS WHY. *** WAS THERE, THIS IS NOT ANCIENT TIME.
*** WAS THERE, THIS IS NOT ANCIENT TIME. IT'S 2008 TALKING ABOUT JAY MIX
ANCIENT TIME. IT'S 2008 TALKING ABOUT JAY MIX ON.
IT'S 2008 TALKING ABOUT JAY MIX ON. ON THE GAY ISSUE, 2 -- 2008 WAS
ON. ON THE GAY ISSUE, 2 -- 2008 WAS A LONG TIME AGO, AND THE VOTE
ON THE GAY ISSUE, 2 -- 2008 WAS A LONG TIME AGO, AND THE VOTE LONGER THAN THAT.
A LONG TIME AGO, AND THE VOTE LONGER THAN THAT. I THINK ATTITUDES HAVE CHANGED A
LONGER THAN THAT. I THINK ATTITUDES HAVE CHANGED A LOT MORE QUICKLY.
I THINK ATTITUDES HAVE CHANGED A LOT MORE QUICKLY. NOW, HAVE THEY GONE TO 50.1%?
LOT MORE QUICKLY. NOW, HAVE THEY GONE TO 50.1%? I WOULDN'T KNOW.
NOW, HAVE THEY GONE TO 50.1%? I WOULDN'T KNOW. ACTUALLY I'D LOVE TO HAVE A VOTE
I WOULDN'T KNOW. ACTUALLY I'D LOVE TO HAVE A VOTE ON THAT.
ACTUALLY I'D LOVE TO HAVE A VOTE ON THAT. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
ON THAT. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. IF WE GET MORE YOUNG PEOPLE
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. IF WE GET MORE YOUNG PEOPLE VOTING.
IF WE GET MORE YOUNG PEOPLE VOTING. THERE IS CLEARLY A
VOTING. THERE IS CLEARLY A GENERATIONAL SPLIT ON HOW PEOPLE
THERE IS CLEARLY A GENERATIONAL SPLIT ON HOW PEOPLE VIEW GAY MARRIAGE.
GENERATIONAL SPLIT ON HOW PEOPLE VIEW GAY MARRIAGE. ABSOLUTELY.
VIEW GAY MARRIAGE. ABSOLUTELY. OH, MY, YES.
ABSOLUTELY. OH, MY, YES. I MEAN, IT'S ENORMOUS.
OH, MY, YES. I MEAN, IT'S ENORMOUS. BUT I DON'T THINK THIS MUCH HAS
I MEAN, IT'S ENORMOUS. BUT I DON'T THINK THIS MUCH HAS TO DO WITH ANY POLLING OF THE
BUT I DON'T THINK THIS MUCH HAS TO DO WITH ANY POLLING OF THE PEOPLE OF KANSAS.
TO DO WITH ANY POLLING OF THE PEOPLE OF KANSAS. I SUSPECT THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY
PEOPLE OF KANSAS. I SUSPECT THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY CLOSE TO AS PROGRESSIVE ABOUT
I SUSPECT THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY CLOSE TO AS PROGRESSIVE ABOUT THIS AS MISSOURI IS.
CLOSE TO AS PROGRESSIVE ABOUT THIS AS MISSOURI IS. BUT THIS IS SAM BROWNBACK AND
THIS AS MISSOURI IS. BUT THIS IS SAM BROWNBACK AND HIS FOLLOWERS IN THE
BUT THIS IS SAM BROWNBACK AND HIS FOLLOWERS IN THE LEGISLATURE.
HIS FOLLOWERS IN THE LEGISLATURE. THIS HAS BEEN ON THEIR AGENDA,
LEGISLATURE. THIS HAS BEEN ON THEIR AGENDA, STUFF THIS RADICAL AND THIS
THIS HAS BEEN ON THEIR AGENDA, STUFF THIS RADICAL AND THIS SEGREGATIONIST.
STUFF THIS RADICAL AND THIS SEGREGATIONIST. THE KANSAS CITY STAR AGAIN, LET
SEGREGATIONIST. THE KANSAS CITY STAR AGAIN, LET ME QUOTE IT, IT WAS BORN OUT OF
THE KANSAS CITY STAR AGAIN, LET ME QUOTE IT, IT WAS BORN OUT OF MALL HAS, AND -- MALICE AND
ME QUOTE IT, IT WAS BORN OUT OF MALL HAS, AND -- MALICE AND THAT'S NOT TOO STRONG A WORD.
MALL HAS, AND -- MALICE AND THAT'S NOT TOO STRONG A WORD. IT'S TIME FOR ROASTS AND
THAT'S NOT TOO STRONG A WORD. IT'S TIME FOR ROASTS AND TOASTS WHERE RUCKETTES THROW
IT'S TIME FOR ROASTS AND TOASTS WHERE RUCKETTES THROW BOUQUETS AND BRICKBATS AT PEOPLE
TOASTS WHERE RUCKETTES THROW BOUQUETS AND BRICKBATS AT PEOPLE AND EVENTS IN THE NEWS.
BOUQUETS AND BRICKBATS AT PEOPLE AND EVENTS IN THE NEWS. UP FIRST IS MARY.
AND EVENTS IN THE NEWS. UP FIRST IS MARY. I'D LIKE TO ROAST THE KANSAS
UP FIRST IS MARY. I'D LIKE TO ROAST THE KANSAS CITY, KANSAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I'D LIKE TO ROAST THE KANSAS CITY, KANSAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. AMONG ALL THE OTHER NOT VERY
CITY, KANSAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. AMONG ALL THE OTHER NOT VERY GOOD NEWS THIS WEEK WAS A POLICE
AMONG ALL THE OTHER NOT VERY GOOD NEWS THIS WEEK WAS A POLICE CHASE THROUGH THE STREETS OF
GOOD NEWS THIS WEEK WAS A POLICE CHASE THROUGH THE STREETS OF KANSAS CITY, KANSAS, THAT
CHASE THROUGH THE STREETS OF KANSAS CITY, KANSAS, THAT UNFORTUNATELY AND TRAGICALLY
KANSAS CITY, KANSAS, THAT UNFORTUNATELY AND TRAGICALLY KILLED A 62-YEAR-OLD WOMAN WHO
UNFORTUNATELY AND TRAGICALLY KILLED A 62-YEAR-OLD WOMAN WHO WAS -- PROBABLY HER DEATH,
KILLED A 62-YEAR-OLD WOMAN WHO WAS -- PROBABLY HER DEATH, BECAUSE OF THE EXTRAORDINARY
WAS -- PROBABLY HER DEATH, BECAUSE OF THE EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES OF IT, GOT A LOT
BECAUSE OF THE EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES OF IT, GOT A LOT OF PUBLICITY, ALSO SHE'S THE
CIRCUMSTANCES OF IT, GOT A LOT OF PUBLICITY, ALSO SHE'S THE MOTHER OF A LOCAL TELEVISION
OF PUBLICITY, ALSO SHE'S THE MOTHER OF A LOCAL TELEVISION REPORTER.
MOTHER OF A LOCAL TELEVISION REPORTER. THE POLICE REFUSED AT FIRST TO
REPORTER. THE POLICE REFUSED AT FIRST TO RELEASE THEIR POLICIES ON
THE POLICE REFUSED AT FIRST TO RELEASE THEIR POLICIES ON CHASING NOT A BIG CRIMINAL BUT
RELEASE THEIR POLICIES ON CHASING NOT A BIG CRIMINAL BUT SOMEBODY ON A DRUG THING.
CHASING NOT A BIG CRIMINAL BUT SOMEBODY ON A DRUG THING. HE ALLEGEDLY WENT THROUGH A
SOMEBODY ON A DRUG THING. HE ALLEGEDLY WENT THROUGH A STOPLIGHT AND KILLED HER.
HE ALLEGEDLY WENT THROUGH A STOPLIGHT AND KILLED HER. OUR THOUGHTS TO THE FAMILY AND
STOPLIGHT AND KILLED HER. OUR THOUGHTS TO THE FAMILY AND CHANGE YOUR POLICY.
OUR THOUGHTS TO THE FAMILY AND CHANGE YOUR POLICY. GUESS WHAT?
CHANGE YOUR POLICY. GUESS WHAT? I'M TOASTING THE KANSAS
GUESS WHAT? I'M TOASTING THE KANSAS LEGISLATURE.
I'M TOASTING THE KANSAS LEGISLATURE. I JUST THOUGHT OF THIS.
LEGISLATURE. I JUST THOUGHT OF THIS. THEY SAID NO TO BILL SELF'S
I JUST THOUGHT OF THIS. THEY SAID NO TO BILL SELF'S 5 MILLION-DOLLAR A YEAR COACH AT
THEY SAID NO TO BILL SELF'S 5 MILLION-DOLLAR A YEAR COACH AT KU AND HIS IDEA OF HAVING A HUGE
5 MILLION-DOLLAR A YEAR COACH AT KU AND HIS IDEA OF HAVING A HUGE LUXURY APARTMENT FOR BASKETBALL
KU AND HIS IDEA OF HAVING A HUGE LUXURY APARTMENT FOR BASKETBALL PLAYERS, WOMEN AND MEN, AT KU.
LUXURY APARTMENT FOR BASKETBALL PLAYERS, WOMEN AND MEN, AT KU. SO NOW THE PRIVATE SECTOR WILL
PLAYERS, WOMEN AND MEN, AT KU. SO NOW THE PRIVATE SECTOR WILL HAVE TO KICK IN AND PROBABLY
SO NOW THE PRIVATE SECTOR WILL HAVE TO KICK IN AND PROBABLY BUILD THIS THING FOR THE
HAVE TO KICK IN AND PROBABLY BUILD THIS THING FOR THE BASKETBALL PLAYERS, BUT THAT'S
BUILD THIS THING FOR THE BASKETBALL PLAYERS, BUT THAT'S GOOD, AND I'M GLAD THE
BASKETBALL PLAYERS, BUT THAT'S GOOD, AND I'M GLAD THE LEGISLATURE SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT
GOOD, AND I'M GLAD THE LEGISLATURE SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THE BONDING
LEGISLATURE SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THE BONDING AUTHORITY TO GO AHEAD.
GOING TO ALLOW THE BONDING AUTHORITY TO GO AHEAD. GOOD JOB.
AUTHORITY TO GO AHEAD. GOOD JOB. I WANT TO TOAST THE CULINARY
GOOD JOB. I WANT TO TOAST THE CULINARY OASIS AT NINTH AND BALTIMORE.
I WANT TO TOAST THE CULINARY OASIS AT NINTH AND BALTIMORE. THEY MAKE PAY -- PACE PASTRIES
OASIS AT NINTH AND BALTIMORE. THEY MAKE PAY -- PACE PASTRIES THAT NAPOLEON WOULD SURRENDER
THEY MAKE PAY -- PACE PASTRIES THAT NAPOLEON WOULD SURRENDER FOR.
THAT NAPOLEON WOULD SURRENDER FOR. I'M SURE YAEL AND KEVIN COLLISON
FOR. I'M SURE YAEL AND KEVIN COLLISON AT THE STAR WILL ATTRIBUTE TO
I'M SURE YAEL AND KEVIN COLLISON AT THE STAR WILL ATTRIBUTE TO THE TROLLEY BUT IT'S PART OF THE
AT THE STAR WILL ATTRIBUTE TO THE TROLLEY BUT IT'S PART OF THE UNSUBSIDIZED FOOD CULTURE.
THE TROLLEY BUT IT'S PART OF THE UNSUBSIDIZED FOOD CULTURE. I WANT TO TOAST CHIEF DARYL
UNSUBSIDIZED FOOD CULTURE. I WANT TO TOAST CHIEF DARYL FORTE FOR STEPPING UP AND SAYING
I WANT TO TOAST CHIEF DARYL FORTE FOR STEPPING UP AND SAYING HE'S GOING TO TAKE CONTROL OF
FORTE FOR STEPPING UP AND SAYING HE'S GOING TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE SITUATION ON THE PLAZA BY
HE'S GOING TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE SITUATION ON THE PLAZA BY ARRESTING PEOPLE WHO VIOLATE THE
THE SITUATION ON THE PLAZA BY ARRESTING PEOPLE WHO VIOLATE THE LAW AND DOING THE JOB THAT THE
ARRESTING PEOPLE WHO VIOLATE THE LAW AND DOING THE JOB THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD DO, AND
LAW AND DOING THE JOB THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD DO, AND THOSE OFFICERS SHOULD BE
POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD DO, AND THOSE OFFICERS SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS MORE
THOSE OFFICERS SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS MORE IMPORTANT CRIMES THAN HAVING TO
AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS MORE IMPORTANT CRIMES THAN HAVING TO STOP CHILDREN WHO SHOULD BE
IMPORTANT CRIMES THAN HAVING TO STOP CHILDREN WHO SHOULD BE UNDER THE CARE OF THEIR PARENTS.
STOP CHILDREN WHO SHOULD BE UNDER THE CARE OF THEIR PARENTS. YOU'RE ALL WAY TOO CHEERFUL
UNDER THE CARE OF THEIR PARENTS. YOU'RE ALL WAY TOO CHEERFUL AND UPBEAT.
YOU'RE ALL WAY TOO CHEERFUL AND UPBEAT. HERE IS A ROAST.
AND UPBEAT. HERE IS A ROAST. KANSAS CITY STAR MIDWEST VOICES
HERE IS A ROAST. KANSAS CITY STAR MIDWEST VOICES WRITER, AMIE PATTON, A LIBERAL
KANSAS CITY STAR MIDWEST VOICES WRITER, AMIE PATTON, A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT, TROUBLED BY POLITICAL
WRITER, AMIE PATTON, A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT, TROUBLED BY POLITICAL DEVELOPMENTS IN KANSAS.
DEMOCRAT, TROUBLED BY POLITICAL DEVELOPMENTS IN KANSAS. AMIE IS THINKING ABOUT CHANGING
DEVELOPMENTS IN KANSAS. AMIE IS THINKING ABOUT CHANGING PARTIES, HOPING TO HELP NOMINATE
AMIE IS THINKING ABOUT CHANGING PARTIES, HOPING TO HELP NOMINATE MODERATE G.O.P. CANDIDATES.
PARTIES, HOPING TO HELP NOMINATE MODERATE G.O.P. CANDIDATES. WINNERS OF REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES
MODERATE G.O.P. CANDIDATES. WINNERS OF REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES USUALLY WIN GENERAL ELECTIONS IN
WINNERS OF REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES USUALLY WIN GENERAL ELECTIONS IN KANSAS, BUT AMIE WONDERS IF SHE
USUALLY WIN GENERAL ELECTIONS IN KANSAS, BUT AMIE WONDERS IF SHE CAN LIVE WITH HERSELF SHOULD SHE
KANSAS, BUT AMIE WONDERS IF SHE CAN LIVE WITH HERSELF SHOULD SHE DEIGN TO CAST A REPUBLICAN VOTE.
CAN LIVE WITH HERSELF SHOULD SHE DEIGN TO CAST A REPUBLICAN VOTE. AMIE, DON'T TAKE THAT RISK.
DEIGN TO CAST A REPUBLICAN VOTE. AMIE, DON'T TAKE THAT RISK. STAY PUT.
AMIE, DON'T TAKE THAT RISK. STAY PUT. HELP THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SOLVE
STAY PUT. HELP THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SOLVE ITS PROBLEMS.
HELP THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SOLVE ITS PROBLEMS. THERE IS PLENTY TO KEEP YOU
ITS PROBLEMS. THERE IS PLENTY TO KEEP YOU BUSY.
THERE IS PLENTY TO KEEP YOU BUSY. AND THAT IS RUCKUS FOR THIS
BUSY. AND THAT IS RUCKUS FOR THIS WEEK.
AND THAT IS RUCKUS FOR THIS WEEK. BACK NEXT THURSDAY AT 7:30.
WEEK. BACK NEXT THURSDAY AT 7:30. NOW ON BEHALF OF THE RUCKETTES
BACK NEXT THURSDAY AT 7:30. NOW ON BEHALF OF THE RUCKETTES AND RUCKUS CREW, MIKE SHANIN
NOW ON BEHALF OF THE RUCKETTES AND RUCKUS CREW, MIKE SHANIN SAYING THANKS FOR WATCHING.
AND RUCKUS CREW, MIKE SHANIN SAYING THANKS FOR WATCHING. THANKS, CROSBY, FOR COMING IN.
SAYING THANKS FOR WATCHING. THANKS, CROSBY, FOR COMING IN. APPRECIATE IT.
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