Tyt Episode 12/16/09

blood charts we have so many things out today show that i don't even he thinks i don't know what will get to what we want i've to tell you this though i'm loaded for bear amuck armada rocket ship on the launching pad on would go off apology within the first segment but it the things that you know what as they start with ben brenneke earlier in the day i saw time magazine named him man of the year let me say medicare it could be mother teresa good baker heather m_s_a_s later one of those things uh... but he is relevant dot right now your brother article as well army god they gave him such a mouthful of uh... it did maybe he proposed to me and i'm not against that i'm just saying okay i mean they went to work on burning calories are hard-working guy install he would never take politics in a couple of legendary man he is for rescuing a the mother f er rendition of right interpret that damn iceberg and i think imperiling got some good luck this *** before and now he's time's man of the year but i don't have time for that uh... i'm just getting warms up are only emma get to that today ok that's how much ammo departs let's go let's go let's do it with break so what we're gonna start with uh... well wait a star twelve without of course the complete and utter capitulation of bronco bamaca corporate interests in america when it comes to health care reform uh... you know supported joey berman all hundred-percent and today i'd get you know what it turns out they got angry at howard dean or in part because of a little bit later howard dean says hey you know what this bill in the and those a little bit more harm than good and here are the reasons why it's wise e again' see comes out as well irrational insurrection and now we can't have it and they they launch a coupla torpedoes eight unity here a clip that's gonna make me go nuts in a sec okay they lost a couple of missiles towards howard dean why did that church okay carlisle howard inactivity that one after spotted supposing that somebody in this case or do you think ill there bill some lamb anger i say wimax says these guys pretended but they were for the public option or medicare buy-in or sumin actually protecting you uh... from rising cost and so what how and when uh... joe lieberman came out and so i might kill all those things is already a at work you know where against that but what can we do did they launch any missiles towards julie were they come out and call joe lieberman irrational the basic any of those things about your liver all work and they were last disguised over and over have only been and he seems to be opposing what the public with claim you want uh... no-one federal if there's a great california grant and then we hear you ended with the senate democrats and said we believe the new kang everybody are bad canceling lieberman and when we wanted to point out something in an article that absolutely agree with the one that that you know the the point that i've been making for weeks here uh... but even this is an immediate one that's something that i forgot you know that i who but wanted to basically study under the wing of lieberman in the senate when he was there briefly brocco bob he went to talk to a long uh... and wanted to i'll learn how to be a centrist with him and of course in the original primary med lamont verses joe lieberman brocco obama forcefully came out for joe lieberman et cetera feta and then we would of course came out and during the campaign not only back john mccain is opponent but implied the bronco balls a trait now when we come in then comes out and goes to kill his number one legislative agenda and what he claims he wants the public option is that our he doesn't say a work anyone howard then comes out and says hey look this bill's got problems is how to tell you what our jeanne you helps lighter you don't appear to be in league with corporate america your banners so now everybody's coming around to what i've been saying for a long time whether it's glenn greenwald ur jet lewis in that uh... daily coz surging ensure that those guys were on board anyway uh... but now congressmen and senators is a mother about three to you uh... which is i'll it turns out obi-wan never one of the public option the first place i'll i'll gladly send out on the show and then you get dole bomb a lover's really or did you know i don't know it's not riding funk eighteen-year-old inside oklahoma's that's you can criticize them how he must have our presentations that hard don't you see the rainbows and butterflies are constantly surrounded what he does that he was a lobbying about the public option so now closed-loop ago denies these congressmen senators were caught up represented john conyers of michigan the president keeps listener all emmanuel no public option no setting medicare to fifty-five no nothin an exciting an excise tax issue has lobby is taking over as with john conyers says about obama's efforts here at health care reform david all the firm uh... wisconsin says the white house has been use what's useless is the chairman of the powerful appropriations committee on in the house side and he said it's ridiculous no bombing administration is sitting on the silence sidelines that's nonsense uh... so bleak now we haven't had enough right let's go to win it uh... have a widow congressman uh... from new york uh... says slow stupak lieberman who left these people in charge it's time for the president to get his hands dirty some of us have compromise our compromise compromise believe the president to stand up for the values or that our party shares we must stop letting the tail wag the dog of this debate at fault that wasn't good enough for you there comes that are russ feingold from wisconsin that's no excuse to be legislation that the president water in the first place so i don't think focusing it on lieberman really it's the truth i think they could have been higher i certainly think a stronger bill would have been had better in every respect and dot he also said later that uh... apparently at the president never one of the public option in the first one never wanted the public option in the first place that is inescapable adept at this point if on top of all the evidence we have now you're still not convinced it got news reacted to bring to you for your bikes uh... yeah yeah would you be call each other by sister but you can't take off your point hey look i voted for obama i support obama but you look at the facts if you can't be immune to the facts the facts are obvious he never one of the public option it infected every attorney fought against it instead rahm emanuel and look at our goal is to try to let the treasure many gets knocked out in mississauga let's not as well as lobbyists noel isnt julie welch in about an outfit so now we have this watered-down bill that has known as problems with it winning at those problems in the second but let's listen to joel lieberman poland all troops until and glow i mean he's doing and zone dances here let's start with code number to get out let's let's go there as appears to be happening the so-called public option government-run insurance program ezell the medicare buy-in that i thought would jeopardize medicare cost taxpayers billions of dollars over the long haul crease our deficit itself and there's no other attempts to bring things like that we're going to be in a position right in the back and saying i'm getting to the business records so well why does it all on are ready to vote for health care reform i_d_ foods that are well now that they've gone every single thing commanded of them i will consider i'm getting in a position well-lit vote for the bill let's look at this for a touchdown in the fifties nothing game you come up with other guys in you like this before point rub it in their face i thought maybe elsewhere on face value maybe i want there's not a bronco bundles whatever i tell you'll get harsher well it's what's the next couple of c if i go there are eight but number two now here's the reason i thought about frederick that doubt that a lot it went my way didn't go against me what happened at the white house and you convince that uh... medicare buy-in idea is now gone from health care bill well first it was a very good meeting at the way that was uh... uh... pretend that i was made the case that the the merged bill uh... is a good bill and uh... really will be uh... extraordinarily important to millions of people in the country will do what he wanted to do from the beginning begin the cut the cost of health care increases and uh... extend health care insurance a lot of people don't have an unregulated insurance companies any specific we talk about this issue that the public option the medicare by medicare buy-in if he didn't really specifically dwell on it but i i i look i took him to say let's region agreement all of the part of this deprive the american people from the whole of it uh... which will really be the kind of health care reform of people have try to achieve for decades uh... here in this country and uh... uh... so i i thought it was general are questions and answers i think that could be a message to you at the same senator lieberman yeah don't dwell on this medicare by historic season sent except company uh... i i was hearing and in other words no i thought but you know what he's right uh... it's funny how oracle bomber never came down on any of the other senators uh... like the conservative senators lieberman nelson et cetera they listen to come down levels and i thought that lieberman just explain to you if you're still blinded by a robot eleven can see straight did you hear what he just said he said he came in and told everybody all the democratic senators philip small parts of this bill compromise overall bell you know we're screwed the public auctions group medicare body would not gonna do that stop whenever one of that stuff birthday and lieberman's interface unit is a hundred percent right that's what everybody's interventionist and some of the bill so it andheri lieberman is lafayette park dot dot dot dot clothing so in fact he wouldn't get touch me okay you know i was the guy couldn't hold it in it at some point i had to let it go no i don't know if he made that other democrats the level of the progress of the people who vote he made them here okay now staying awake album of the top because you know we hear arnaldo apo role you know he's you know he's just hamstrings only got sixty senators amigas he had ninety eight out of a hundred senators maybe you could do something but he's only got sixty senators it's important to get the or anything it's funny because is going greenwald point this out i think you have to determine if the great fighters on the stand then bring the facts at all this stuff that we're now how can brocco bomb will be the genius chess master whose manipulating almost a week in august and his genius or so he's eventually somehow prove magically getting it was that public auction at a medicare by the centers for but it might happen four years of seven years down the road because you can understand his jeep straight maybe that's more than that powerful at the same time when you ask him hey can you help a brother i thought on this bill his arm powerless i got nothin all my gum so weak now lieberman pushes me around the block all the time someone for the flavor miss falk and other do it i just prophetically week no no no i can't give a damn thing about it sold-out we know that's not true why do we know that's not true well you know we've been telling you about this uh... bill the byron dorgan came up with isometric really to the health care bill in the summons very simple uh... uh... most of the senators are on the record as saying including almost up all the democrats as saying hey you know what we should be able to allow import drugs from canada over the next ten years i would say it was nearly one hundred billion dollars so that one of the nine dollars a ghostly in our pockets or it's going to go directly into the pockets of interest in this country the pharma supercomputers that are overcharging so what's a good week if you know what the politician how easy is this one and they're already most of them on reckoning that republicans the joy slam-dunk in fact he went to go to dubrovnik some i think what what winds dorgan going to get a vote on this and i thought my god he's got the budget got more than sixty well just as they were going to vote yes who stepped in for a crowbar and he came in and he told the democratic senators here you i didn't authorize that ill you don't get to make a deal like that no my friends that forms of companies want to you've got a hundred billion dollars in their pocket so you are not to vote with dorgan and he got about nine or ten of them to switch now happening it matter ten of them to switch on that issue but he can get one or two to switch on the public action he came in at cracks cult and that's what happened all the sun the filibuster of organs amendment uh... prevail by the way do you want one in a simple majority fifty one forty eight weightwatchers brocco obama supporting the filibuster of the data at of an amendment that would save us a hundred million dollars instead and that money over to the drug industry because he's brocco obama incorporate you know i call the republicans are wholly owned subsidiary of corporate america well brock obama is not far behind on every issue whether it's every issue within the health care reform whether it's all the financial reporting big giant loopholes their regulation of derivatives one they've invented any of the derivatives which is ridiculous number to gain regulate any of the jurors number three it just want to note that for the record in making your is it the right of that you know what happened obon as a treasure department put to gigantic loopholes in there so that ninety percent of do of derivatives now will not be reported now why do you do that because he loves corporate america this is the change we can believe in please spare me is junk garbage okay so i i know that i go on and on in every case where he comes out the side of corporate america that we should and one out of the u_n_ reforms that i would like to know what all of a legal conclusion although i don't know anything novel will once a week might has here we louis justices bargains of men filibustered in three ticular okay so now lieberman ah... is gonna continue uh... is uh... little gloating sure and uh... you start talking again about here uh... welfare that he's gonna rub it in a little bit more here with how he might run in twenty twelve let's go to a cover for uh... very well about the dynamic going on right now and and that in nine years you've gone from the democratic vice presidential candidate to let's face it one of the most despised people among many doubt among many democrats and i think that fit within idoney i don't enjoy the personal uh... and uh... some of them so that people attacking my wife which is outrageous also uh... but uh... you know i've been at this a long time in in the and you if you try to please everybody you will do nothing in this very polarized time in our politics if you take a stand bunch of people health inc you've done something great and a bunch of people will think you've done something awful you've gotta decide i've gotta decide that i've done the best i could to do what's right and as for my country in my state and that's what i feel i'm doing on health care reform he talked a lot of democrats and their there is a fundamental feeling among many of them that he had that in the fourth the president that you have animus towards here former party they say that this is all about delivering wallace's poppy curtain this is all about what i think health care reform should be president and i have a very good mutually respectful relations that's true uh... if i had uh... any sense of the dead against democratic party it would be in the democratic caucus events joe lieberman would run as a republican i don't know what all around the has uh... i'll you like being an independent um... so that's definitely a possibility but i i'd say that uh... all options are open malay gap it's unlikely that i would run as a republican but i wouldn't ah... foreclose any possibility i think the more likely thing deserve run as an independent because you please everybody so i decided it wasn't as good a please corporate america and you know what i want to pay the bills so at work in a pretty well for me or and this will present although i have not noticed my picture and so we get along great elaborate on the bill he does so i well and again in the stores them uh... i rather of the democratic party now all that that wasn't enough here all of this in your face about one of the republican and even if i was a republican someone the democratic party because i have a rocco bomb in my backpack well alright obama you like take a nap and you keep on thinking lieberman's poppycock yeah that works out for him filter disappears jeopardize medicare stairs research deficit indexer people is probably not had for for this is not not a football at the different everything he wants he's been getting together position working consider for health care or joe uh... you are blessed we really appreciate that which is the outer satoshi do jazz producer mace is directing and as often producing a lot different ways he sent me something that i'd like to start that's funny because this is from about a month ago or so maybe a little longer uh... and there was some guy who was mad at how i was taking on all bomb on health care reform and saying that he was really delivering new you know what the public option uh... this guy's name is tim russo and since he tightly criticism several parece a blogger since the tide over his uh... uh... his little piece you jay keyworth can kiss my *** uh... i feel free in liberated to say that uh... camera so was you know he was in love with brocco bomb in a prison the stores uh... and act he said that i did know what i was doing that uh... no in fact brock at this whole thing figured out i'm well what if he still believes that he probably does this is so up process from last reported as the blood from inside uh... obama's avis so i would imagine that that's where he still resides recovery in comforting in their former apparently so i'm going to last couple parts of it becomes perfectly apple what we're discussing today so he talks about how i take on a obama and uh... highly sought after corporate tristan the uh... concludes his blood by saying anton damn tired of it on justices appointed this health care reform situation is anyone but will not that was the southwestern are will not picked this is an apartment community this macro brocco bomb for any reason i look at this disappointment as a opportunity we commit to working harder to change this country as i am quite certain for our kids doing this very moment and scotty cramped in their man has a lot of guys up there and i don't know i mean enough breathing space in there and then he says that's why we elected a not to give us all we want not to be a personal punching bag what are we seeing opportunity when when i was dropped but the buses asked for us that's what he's doing so stop project uh... up all you know you fool invited like you know the republicans said this during the capital you think he's going to be used to there were like notably it seems to be a savior we're hoping it is a little better than bush and retain and although i a lot better and that was our hope how and out of course isabel yes i know i will lose track of that acting bush was tortured people or at least not tortured people in her space from february *** damning with faint praise allowable i do the anybody actually thought he was good to be the savior and that every single was perfect plant it wasn't so much that we don't understand this person and is welcome so our fault opa more works in mysterious ways but apparently at some people on the left including mister you believe well i i tema use you still haven't gotten his abuse of that feingold saying today uh... that uh... president obama has not been for the public option from the beginning that the north korea all those congressman chi is congressman or b congressman wheat are all saying that the white house has been useless and going the wrong direction that they've known for you all these cave in to julie when did that do for you i know pro alright but last night uh... pretend that there isn't beside the wall of the things that annoys me about american politics is that uh... you know especially on ted television you know you everything's black and white the reader for some there again some manager for something you agree with a hundred percent and your guests from the new that agree with its europe that's not the reality is situation in this health care bill although i a m livid about uh... whatever the problem dot shin and and the medicare buy-in etcetera etcetera either send their some good size so they are a lot of smart people the country making good arguments for it including jonathan alter very passionate defense he's done at several times on this show obviously rights in newsweek uh... i hope we can come are back on do it to do it again 'cause he's very emotional about the fact that we're close to getting this universal coverage that we've been looking for two for seven years and they still are one of the most respected uh... posters in the country very smart guy also obviously progressive saying that we have to be absolutely crazy not to want this bill so now uh... what is their art their argument is look yeah i know uh... we don't get the public option in net has trouble with cost containment etcetera uh... but look you are getting massive subsidies here for people to get uh... coverage that they didn't have before and that's what the silvers argument has been that a lot of that is coming from how wealthy americans so if you're a liberal you should actually really like this bill and he doesn't understand it 'cause he thinks uh... being for the public action could be or is arguably conservative position it reduces the deficit it's more about fiscal responsibility so is that while it was losing any sleep over while because one of the but mostly liberal would not like off-white dot google woo woo woo personal that's not our main objective army infected is the fix the system and so are we can worried about cost going out of control of course we are 'cause were reasonable smart american now i'd like to make makes good points and you should read his blog on it and he explains how where the subsidies go and how much an average family is the pay et cetera right and so there is a good side uh... a good case to be made for that overall it gives me now the balance and i'm not this is not written in stone and i'm not promenade i was i said yesterday but he seems to me that they are more downsizings focus point than outside now why because the one thing that they say they hang their hat on them people so the penning this health care reform bills at least we finally get universal coverage now that's not exactly true useful this cover about thirty million americans more uh... some estimates are between forty five fifty million americans need to get covered so easily about some people but i get but not exactly perfect i don't i'm going to say no mazone every single america's governor partner alright some pretty good job of covering most people right but what does that mean basic weeded universitat believe it is a mandate i have to buy the insurance so what did you give you didn give me anything you made me by insurance so now we go back and start evidence try to explain this to friends at at diners at this morning and hence the better title you've been a prison or itself it's like a lot of the diner and i think congratulations you all know life insurance i'll plan passes it was a navlab teachers that's great out while a great guy disguise that i sent alright now pay for recruited updated now if they did not like this is the worst of it it what life is short we knew you gave me like this year's you're making me pay for sizes and a little and i got some subsidies absolutely was just as a u_n_ you ok you know subsidize the for the bus boys in here and then so we guys who are not as much undeveloped that's could be a good thing you know nativism liberals might be happy about that pits that are set up but i_d_ give them life insurance think they've hobart and in fact under this there is no it containment for a possible that's a little thing livingstone that means that means okay you have to go by through live pictures for a private company could be a they could be blue cross because you know whatever it might be right in some states very very limited right so you don't have very many options you go to those guys they could increase your premiums to whatever they like sonali had to go by we have to pay whatever their charge well thank you for universal coverage are really appreciate that how does that help people what they propose to help people think that why you need a mandate because you don't want people sitting on the sidelines then they get sick and they have been paid into the system in a comment about it at risk right now i'd owe you can't deny me for any reason i think it's a logic behind it but you have to at least give the man option but being able to go someone who isn't in it for profit wife because he needs to know that he's going to be covered and it is spring in is going to go towards covering his health okay you know that uh... uh... according to three different studies done right now that private insurance only spent about sixty six so muddy the big edit your giving them uh... on your health if you go thirty four percent uh... for administrative costs of for profits for marketing etcetera etcetera thank you bobbie look there's always gonna be overhead you know that in medicare the estimates or the overhead is between one and four percent so private insurance is thirty four percent in medicare is one of four percent the extra money is the money they're taking home ending a rock percy in other etc couple study saying that in california for example the we deceive eighteen to twenty one billion dollars a year just aren't paperwork across the country hardman sixteen hundred eighty billion dollars eight-year just on paperwork rain but that was yesterday by the canadian system we just come in here you go uh... you know i have a card here it is boom alexia deduct alikum salam oversimplification but roughly true here we're tangled op in in paperwork now how is that relevant to what's happening here here's another form of the park you think you're covered because the it did new bill says he can't be denied for pre-existing condition where they can do now u uh... before well you know something you had the pastoral you know or your current state of health et cetera now yes it does say that but his having it around the watching the post wrote about those and then uh... john carter wrote about it in daily coast great articles both of them saying of first of all it they say well i can't deny anybody but act for example if a kidney treatment cost a lot of money and that's gonna raise up the amount of money that they're though private assurances that they commit we don't have any doctors victory kids unity to prop so there's a foul i mean you can get the security of your life that we don't cover them uh... interesting okay so they don't have to cover anything so they can take the costliest diseases out which is don't cover them though we cover your there you can come by richard as we'd rather do any good 'cause will provide those treatments you think they can't get around these replies meeting together on these rules helps thank you and thing they do is uh... if you have pre-existing condition until we accept your butt here are now twenty chapters of forms that you have got pages the chapters before we get the fella brought this on and on that one and then you gotta go here and then you got to go to know why they wanna make it harder and they got damn it okay im gonna go somewhere else they don't want you because what is their motive it is the profit motive they want to take the sickest people and fight anyway to dump them and they want to keep the customers that are key they're paying and other high premiums for the meeting subsidized by the american government and take that money keep it for themselves that's why if you walked gonna have a mandate you need to have a public option that entity is not motivated by profit where they're not their incentive is not to take you out but the except you incentive is to treat you and hot to make money off of you this isn't like buying uh... ac hardy says that he will like buying a house life depends on it and so if you have this bill that might not even really cover pre-existing conditions that doesn't give you any public actions that doesn't mean that medicare buy-in and that gives universal coverage by charging you for it well then what stops i ended up sublease the down side is sick again mostly outweigh the down side now uh... the upset now let's get a couple more uh... problems with it including political props job lewis it has an axe on article in uh... in again in daily class today talking about hey listen now what happens when at the end of the day you pass this bill and there are no nothing it does nothing in the bill is a spring instead or so the premiums continue to rise that astronomical right and then uh... you have higher taxes no fruits for the highest brackets but nonetheless their high taxes it's contained for now into the highest brackets but would always be continued lies brackets uh... to pay for the subsidies that go to private insurance companies to cover thatcher thirty million people the federal government's budget is increasing the deficit might be increasing your premiums are increasing and most people didn't get those subsidies and they turn out helpful what happened in this health care and then some of the benazzo in the start of twenty fourteen a lot of the benefits all start two point fourteen but meanwhile the republicans attack an attack and in fact and they say you see that all health care reform did was uh... raise your print we pull into the government was gonna screw this up why'd you listen to that it then it will there be a political price for a yes and then he makes a great point which is let the great the genius of social security and medicare is everybody gets you the rich get at the poor here at the middle class kitty everybody gets if this is turned basically the main benefit of this bill has turned into a subsidy for the poor ends some you know lower middle class americans and obviously great benefit to that but there is a political downside to that as republican with welfare for so long that is why i guess that every year until one year they take it down it becomes a political football because of everybody gets it the nato i like this okay i see how this is working and i see how it benefits me anything possible takeaways social security medicare usery's happy with it but only the poor are getting it well their bones are worked out every year and go to everybody else and why you pay for the poor i said his welfare for the poor more welfare more welfare until one day they went at all the status quo accomplishments uncertainty all the sudden doesn't exist in so that these are among the downside and they are building but you know all throughout all bomb in rahm emanuel tell us don't worry as long as we pass anything anything at all it's gonna be a great victory for and i just don't believe that i believe the bill that we have to pass should actually be good and do what we wanted to do rather notice pass any you know as uh... julie rosie peacock papi you would like or poppycock or whatever they call it was crazy pics the and we know what a poppycock it some very very faceted poppy *** you like and then uh... will call health-care reform will get a political way lou about by it and when we come back howard is not buying it and it's a very interesting things to say and then of course uh... the mainstream media uh... doing the bidding of corporate media amie corporate america will forfeit the fare kaam and i uh... there are big enough grew out of a mess it ok it is my favorite thing away doesn't know either way political news site in the world i mean it's happening every line nice to know if the reader and it won the competition good guys you know we like these web sites b_b_c_ huffington post it did a good job but turns out we 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the examiner this is perfect for yes yes it is that the story graciously i outlined by the name of margaret hemenway uh... she is a_t_c_ mother says the first grader who is attending a school and the d_c_ public school system milk at now leaders first-graders teacher announced to the class that she the is going to get married soon and she is going to get married to another woman na right when this little girl told her father whether teacher headset the parents flipped out even they feel that this teacher has stolen their daughters innocence so what they're planning on doing is actually they've already filed a complaint against this teacher over at the child sense of innocence okay with their we have lost innocence this is as evaporated and there needs to be a until the papers now look at the seriously though i'm a little bit spalazzo haha okay uh... i did the teacher is you don't want to share her life it's erin demand i remember all my teachers and at all but a lot of my patients are by their private lives not in great detail but everyone saw this timber policy got married i i right and that she had to marry a woman so we had to tell anna pro-active about it but at the same time i say i see the family fixer remembered what the right wing the religious folks isn't the right wing religious folks in this country figures they bring in the schools panic what battle right so now you're introducing this to a first-grader you know i think that what i find a woman over a bit teacher or no way no way but what i said if on the press will when i said hey you know what me that's not that great topic to discuss with your first graders yeah i'd probably go in that direction usu absent and ads idea seriously i'd althought that i might be split on this story to right because i thought all the admission big discussion about gay marriage into schools it's not right newton but then i thought why is it not right why is it ok for uh... heterosexual teacher to talk about her plans on getting married but it's not ok for lesbian teachers say the same thing if no review of course i agree with you today in that as that you know it's gel point that's that's of a hundred percent on board with that but the problem is that we do a prospective everybody's differing views today mcgill present of our money on this one here we go to reach of the row the because look etc i know tumi it seems like you're telling me all while you know an elfin a dwarf get married in middle earth that's totally unacceptable and so if you mentioned that in first grade people's has exploded might why what difference with help of a dork get married as opposed to was it albums i don't know birthday as was in the trees merengue whatever's happening in lower the risk it's all mambo jumbo to me i don't know why they get upset about the perfect but at the same time understand that might view is not only mhm anderson there's a lot of parents who have very deeply held views but we have to accommodate them every counted everybody battery dispels the reason i how much your company people of course i understand that but i think it's within the bounds of reason to say let's not have this discussion the first grade class but what happened over the top of goats are god's i don't know how you're right maybe first-grade is way too young to have a discussion like this right but i really think that it's dom when parents try to keep the truth the way for their kids their homosexuals in the world hopefully our country is going to progress to the point where homosexuals will be allowed to get married all throughout the country that's just a fact one-day bahut this kid is going to know the people in gay people get married gay people have sex they're gay people in the world why are people still scared to share that information with their kids like protecting their kids and shell three naked they're not doing them hdl a service this is in a good thing right indy looked at the teacher did not discuss sex okay so yeah i was just nationalistic keep doubting in perspective as well so i understand we're saying and then uh... which indicated to another level that's that i had definitely drew the line with and she deftly should not about what some people that's ok cell lut mentioning that she's gonna get married to another woman eyes she read a book to the children and this is something that i also had a problem with now the book is called uncle bodies wedding and it has to do with two-day guinea pigs they get married night there to mail gate guinea pigs the issue with that is by reading this book you basically pushing a political agenda on these kids and that's not cool saying hey i'm gonna get married to another one and that's one thing that's your life who cares right you're not really pressuring the kids into believing anything in your not trying to force a political agenda on that or reading this book it's obviously for you know exposing them to your political views and that's not cool right now we agree with your political views but it's still not cool day and at because that they could read a book on you know to guinea pigs who created a gate the difference for at the meeting go the opposite direction look even better in a guinea pig book and i'm amused by this whole thing uh... in high school and you get opposition from the school board et cetera than ahmet in high school for older kids any clearer with people every school with it but you know just get the decide ana obviously something you know his uh... political uh... sore spot for a lot of people these colin in read uh... a book about that your first free yeah so and that's where i would pull the teacher in the billionaire i_b_p_ the paris and all my kid to have a child who has lost all innocence but there are over the top right but they do they have religion to be paid it and so it was a person with a teacher that would be a disciplinary action because i mean she she's not naive enough to not know the back of card but that's not the some past when i'll be happy about and that's not offer so what do you think the discipline should be mccarthy and have you reading books that that off the passing a flip out over if it's the school board has in the side in the community is in in favor of for kids that are too young right so because another person can come in and read a book about how a few they're doing abortion you you will spend your life and health and no i don't know if that's not a program for first graders a lot of people think that slippery so as a long set up to uh... that could warm the suspension in my book okke suspension yen say they love is a very serious issue i can have you do in this you suspend for week two weeks i don't know what it is without maybe without pay and did he do it again that we're going to have an issue where european support i wouldn't i would guess i go in that direction per se pata meri affected but for the book that's a bit much yap i don't know i don't think i would center i think that they were a little slap on the wrist intelligence don't do that again did not cool not having a know that i i i wanted very few rag bag you got our for me i got a remains electrical system writing for my views and say no i think that that merit something worse i think one of the time reading about this story i think about what i would do if i was in the parent situation right if i had a child and growing up as someone who is extremely sheltered i'd know that it's a really backing faq's and information away from your kids in the name of innocence break so i'd know that you know if my daughter came to me and said hey my teacher said she's gonna marry another woman anek yellow there's this thing called lesbianism andaman explain it to you know and sometimes it happens that's a it's over no i hear you flip uh... last thing on this does that look there are things some things that are age inappropriate because with with this in the future was ruled out u_n_ road outlook observes that download a horse okay anna you know toll road outside and so i want to work on the horcher paper as hey hey hey now is the reason i know there's really come a time when my kids again i realize but there were four it's gonna happen right i don't want to be a frustrating that's probably a reasonable request right the president aren't huge difference they don't want to architect dot hannah and i don't have a confusing the experts were saying i know that i know the are not recent or projecting of course is enormously edges use it as an extreme example for obvious is it somewhere where you can call cross the line of age inappropriate and i understand other people's views that this is what they think that crosses the line i really jackson mhm but just one thing if they do come and say that to you have to explain it to him the reason it's hard to split offers creative discovered them keep asking questions questions that you breaking that why isn't bad what about you what about john that she would but the neighborhood out then i will not unit is this a one military thing and that's what it's like the missiles using a lot forgive a lot allied event this because they don't have forgotten nobody computer by city workers it's not about this but it really would share this that wonder why free iowa so for those great with kids and desert and lecture character and i love right and their own way so i want my nephew start doing it is a tell mama sorted through stuff point article that's really cool so i was like you know i was good who was it would have no idea not to parents who are frustrated by that because i sense soho or whatever it might be so i started playing around one and if so what they said why is this i sweated wise at this uh... blue sky blue light red explain that why why why anyone about twelve people for their parents okay because i said sorry that ek pennies desired never gonna let up up you know what let's handle like five 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