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Conrad Murray served two years of a four year sentence. He joins us now live from the USA.
Do you honestly believe Mr. Murray that you did all that you could to save Michael Jackson,
he was a very vulnerable and fragile patient, do you think you did all that you could?
Yes I did.
You do, you thinkÖ because really he trusted you, didnít he? He trusted you and why didnít you call the Emergency Services right away?
I am a clinical specialist, I am clinically trained in medicine of the highest level as a specialist as well as a sub-specialist
and therefore that is my forte, reviving patients who are requires (sic) resuscitation is what I do.
So if I stumble upon someone in need of that type of resuscitative effort then I will go straight in to that mode to try and help.
So you honestly believe that you took proper care, at the time Michael Jackson was in your care, that you took proper care of him.
Just absolutely.
Do you feel any remorse or feel guilty about what happened to him?
I feel very sorry that Michael is dead, thereís no doubt about it. It is a loss I will never recover from,
but as far as having remorse from doing something wrong, I did not do anything wrong.
Actually, I am an innocent man who was persecuted to the maximum, sent to jail, and
has been demoralized over years as far as, you know, being harshly persecuted in every possible way that I can think,
but despite the pain and suffering I have felt I carry no grudges, I'm not in any way looking to avenge what has happened to me.
I would like to have my story, hopefully on adversity Iíve encountered be used well so that I can save the lives of many.
You talk about your pain and suffering. What about the suffering of Michael Jacksonís family,
especially his children and his fans. I mean his family, they were traumatized by this and as were his fans too.
Donít youÖ I mean you talk about your suffering but what about theirs?
I am very, very sad about Michaelís children, there is no question about it.
You know I remember Michaelís daughter, Paris was telling me that she didnít want to be an orphan.
I was close to those children as a parent can be.
Youíre not close to them now though? Youíre not close to them now surely? Not in anyway at all,
they want you to go away really, I mean theyíve actually said that. They would actually like you to leave the United States and to be quiet.
Well you know I can tell you this. The Jackson's have caused so much damage to their own son,
and if you are a person that is impartial and if you understand Michael
Michael has been devastated through the years by his own family. Michael severed all ties with every member of his relatives before he died.
Now you donít know that because you were not that close to him but clearly I do
because I was right in his presence when he made some statements. There was no communication whatsoever.
Well his family arenít here to actually rebut these allegations they youíre making but clearly what you're saying.
You're saying you are an innocent man, the jury didn't agree.
You went to jail, you were convicted and you went to jail and yet you sit here still maintaining your innocence.
Absolutely. Have you ever seen innocent men that have been incarcerated and have then found out that an error was made
and they finally are released. I'm a man who has been persecuted to the extent.
At this time, up until now, I have been blamed by a key witness Dr. Shafer, who states that there was Propofol and in Propofol there was Lidocaine,
and although he makes the claim, they have refused my defense team and or myself, despite all of our efforts to test the substance
to further show that there is no Propofol that is left in Mr. Jackson, thereís no Lidocaine, there was no infusion.
The evidence was very clear. There was no evidence of Propofol in the bag, in the line that should have been attached to the patient, none of that.
It was not there. The evidence does not support that.
Well thatís what you are saying, again I say to you the jury did not agree with you and thatís why you went to jail
and if youíre saying you had nothing to do with it then why did Michael Jackson die? What happened?
Michael Jackson? I met Michael Jackson in a state of distress. Michael Jackson was basically lifeless.
I was not there, you know my arms could only stretch so far, I was not even present in his bedroom.
Why weren't you present? Why weren't you there and what were you doing rather than attending your patient?
There was no reason for me to attend to Mr. Jackson any further. Mr. Jackson was given a small dose of Propofol around 10:40 in the morning.
I did not leave his bedside until about 11:20 - 11:25. The effects of Propofol are completely gone within 15 minutes of administration.
He had no issues, I didn't even expect Mr. Jackson to be sedated and to fall asleep with such a minuscule dose of Propofol.
But in my absence, after leaving his bedside when the effects of Propofol was gone way beyond the 15 minutes,
I was not on the phone you can also look at the phone records that they gave me. The last phone call I made ended was at 10:43.
At 11:07 there was a one minute call that came in that was a voice mail call and the next time I used my phone was 11:20 - 11:25,
I moved from his bedside only so I do not disturb him, but this was a man after nine hours of no sleep
umm I wanted him to get some rest if it was possible.
I find it absolutely astonishing that someone is being given a powerful drug like that,
a drug that's used, as I know personally, is actually used to put you out during operations.
We're going to have to leave it there for the moment, we're going to talk to you lots, lots more about your relationship with Michael Jackson
and your plans for the future. Mr. Murray thank you for the moment.
Conrad Murray served two years of a four year sentence. He joins us now live from the USA.
How would you describe your relationship with Michael Jackson?
Just a great friendship of course, but I was also his doctor but I spent more time with Michael
as a friend compared to the time I had treated him medically.
You said Ö you have said that you feel that he is somehow with you? That he talks to you is that correct?
No, I certainly donít hear voices and thatís been misconstrued in the press. Certainly, I dream of Michael, I have written letters to Michael
and Iíve also felt his touch actually when the verdict of the civil trial was announced not too long ago, I actually felt his touch and I fought the tears.
Do you actually feel honestly, in your heart, you believe that you did all that you could to save Michael Jackson?
Iíll say this. Iíve done everything that I can, I did nothing wrong and contrary to everything that has been said,
I did not kill Michael Jackson. I think that is absolutely wrong when they make that statement.
Michael Jackson was found basically lifeless and all I did was to make every effort, I was so relentless in my effort to help Michael Jackson.
He lived in a 14,000 square foot home, three floors, with no walking.. landline telephones, despite no effort by the paramedics.
I got in the ambulance with him, I took him to the hospital and I did everything I can to help my friend.
Well obviously the jury didnít agree because they found you guilty and you served two years in prison.
Now you oversaw, as you said, Michael Jacksonís healthcare. You say you were his friend but you were also his doctor,
how can you justify that cocktail of sedatives and anesthetics that you prescribed for Michael Jackson?
Well let's talk about you know the first you said the jury did not agree.
If you were a member of a jury and you were sitting there and the Chief Prosecutor, David Walgren altered evidence in the middle of the courtroom
and when we approached the judge he said he did not do that and then he writes a stipulation that was absolutely wrong.
That would be considered obstruction of justice and it would be malfeasance by a public official
But why did you prescribe all these sedatives to Michael Jackson, all these strong drugs
why did you do that as a doctor, why did you do that for him? Was it because of his paying you?
Because of what?
Because he was paying an awful lot of money?
Oh no, not at all, not at all. I received not a single dime from Michael for his care, I have taken care of Michael since 2006,
years before he passed away and despite my care and services to Michael, I never charged him. I paid for medicines,
which clearly I was reimbursed but Iíve never charged him and Iíve never collected any of the $150,000
that has been shown to the world that I was receiving all of this income. I did not.
I actually wanted to help Michael. When I was told by AEG that Michael was so penniless that he could not afford his home that he lived in,
he could not afford toilet paper to wipe hisÖ himself, he could not pay for popsicles for his children, nothing at all.
This man was completely impecunious, I was stunned, but despite that I stayed with Michael because I wanted to help him.
Can I just ask you? You say you wanted to help him, why did you then not advise him to cancel that tour,
that forthcoming tour when he was clearly, clearly not physically and mentally perhaps capable of doing it but certainly not physically,
why as his physician and as you said, his friend, did you not say, Michael you can't do thisî?
Well Iíve asked Michael time and time again, and Michael said he was up to sixty percent of his performance ability.
I could not tell him to stop the show, not to go to the show, my whole goal was that maybe he would be strong enough eventually to go to England.
Michael was in debt over 40 million dollars. His only last piece of property was wagered as a mortgage against the money that he was being charged against.
AEG was bankrolling Michael - all of the money and he was getting further and further in debt.
He was, basically in a hopeless situation, he was despondent, he was discouraged and I donít think he had the ability to get to do the shows.
He knew that. He wanted to have hip surgery to delay it. He considered trying to do brain surgery (smiles)
and you know, it was just odd. Michael was demoralized in so many ways.
We donít know his financial situation, youíre saying that about the promoters, we donít actually know that.
Do you honestly believe, as you said, that you should be allowed to practice medicine again?
I have practiced medicine for 23 years. I am a critical care specialist.
I have taken care of those who have flatlined, the worst of the heart attacks, the cardiogenic shocks.
I have saved those patients. In 23 years I have never had one disciplinary action by any medical boards in the United States,
through all of the states that I have practiced. I have been in the most litigious states in the country and I have had no warnings and no reprimands.
Not until this strike. This is the only blemish on my record and I am going to do my best to right a wrong that has happened to me.
Mr. Murray thank you for joining us this morning, it's been fascinating.
- Thank you so much. - Thank you very much indeed.