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(Dr. Janice Collins). And let me ask you this,
two things then, when you talk about a racialized society and
culture, you're going further than, you're extending it
past the individual, it's institutionalized so a person
may not carry out racial or racist, racist agendas but
because of the institution, because of the system, it's
systemic, that you're extending it to that word, that is racist
and that supports the foundations.
Well let me ask you this then, or both, then what about this
whole theory, I'm going to throw out the word theory about we're
post-racial [unclear audio] I want to ask a two-parter, I'm
going to throw this out and then open it up to the floor okay,
everybody can respond.
I'm going to throw it out there because I want us to be able to
address questions that I've heard, and seen,
and read and that sort of thing, okay.
That's number one about the post-racial, why then, because
we are postal this whole assertion, why do we need this
type of study and the second part to that question is,
will the effects be different depending on your race?
Will a black student pull something from Africana studies
that a white student will not, will a white student pull
something from Africana studies, because again
you're talking about point of origin and
perspective from whatever margin that it is from.
(Dr. Cha-Jua). Okay, I thank you for the
question, the quality of the questions are
far superior to what I normally get.
[audience laughter].
[unclear audio].
(Dr. Cha-Jua). Okay, so complex question
right, it may take some time.
(Dr. Collins). And this is where we're going
to open the floor too so both gentlemen can answer and
then we're just going to open up to the floor.
(Dr. Cha-Jua). So look, let's take the
situation of the Tea Party and let's assume
that they are acting on good will.
So I don't want to talk about the racist element of the Tea
Party in terms of that racist element that's explicit.
I just want to talk about the philosophical goals that they
will in fact admit to, and that's to say that they
believe in limited government, right?
Their goal is to starve the beast, the right-winged
conservative political economist, Milton Friedman at
the University of Chicago said that if you want to empower the
free-market, you have to starve the beast.
The beast being government, the anti-status, anti-government, so
starve the beast, deny the beast money through taxes,
so what you want to do is limit taxes and then you
want limited government involvement in people's lives.
So the goal has been to shrink the activities of the U.S state.
Barack Obama being a neo-liberal of the Clintonian version,
meaning that he's a Democrat but he shares many of the same goals
of the Republicans, they want to go in the same direction Obama
just wants to go slower so that the effects are less stark.
But make no mistake, the train is going in the same direction,
but if it's going slow we had time to plot and plan and you
know, jump off, change the, that kind of thing.
Okay now, to the question, about post-racial, so we take the Tea
Party around limited government, well what would it mean, what
does it mean to limit the government, to shrink
the revenue that the government gets and that
the government spends in the society?
Well here's what it means, it means that obviously poor people
are going to be affected in a very negative way.
So then if we turn the poverty figures,
we find that black people disproportionately
constitute that group in society.
Let's talk about those of us in this room, all the students here
aspire to a professional job, you intend to wear a suit and
dress nice and go to work and work with your mind
and not with your hands, middle class.
So, middle class folk, black middle class, 50% of all
African-American lawyers work for government, probably less
than 12% of black lawyers work for white law firms, most black
lawyers work for government agencies.
So if you shrink the federal government, shrink the public
sector, you're shrinking government funded jobs,
be they local, state or federal government.
The impact on every occupational category of black folks would be
severely disproportionate because private industry,
they talk about diversity but all you have to do is look
through the roster of employment and it's very, very clear,
they don't hire black folks, they simply don't.
I don't know what the size of the black community is in
Charleston, but I can assure you that the percentage of black
people employed in local industry, local business is
going to be far less than the percentage
of black folks in this town.
And you can do that for any sector of the economy.
So if you follow that logic, and this is in a post-racial
America, where people if they're not thinking race, they're just
thinking limited government, the disproportionate impact on black
folks is so great that we can't even begin to conceptualize
something as silly as a post-racial society when you're
living in a society built on racial hierarchy.
Last point and then I'll turn it over to Father Brown.
The one thing that we know is that things are inheritable,
social things are transferred, intergenerationally,
so not only is poverty transferred, right.
You see a lot of writings about, you know the 4th generation of
poverty and this cultural deprivation that gets passed on
from, well wealth is also transferred intergenerationally.
Okay, critical point, black people came out of slavery after
246 years of unremunerated labor, and we're not even
talking about the brutality that they experienced, we're just
talking about they walked out of slavery with nothing, nothing.
And this is at the precise same moment that Abraham Lincoln
passes the act that gives land freed to European immigrants,
$10 for 150 acres, the Homestead Act of 1862.
At that precise moment we're coming out of slavery three
years later, we come out with nothing, but European immigrants
and native whites and that's in quotation marks, "native
whites", let's just say the white invaders who came in, they
get for $10 they get 150 acres out west.
You go through and you look at every piece of social
legislation prior to the great society legislations,
transferred wealth into the hands of the
white working class, and the white middle class, and
the white capitalist class.
And so over time these people become at least stable,
black folks start with nothing.
Think of it as, and I'm out of here, think of it as a Monopoly
game, you play Monopoly and we take black people in the game
and we give them nothing, we give all the white folks,
we divide it by class, you get $2,000 if you're in the elite
class, you get $1,000 if you're in the working class,
if you're poor we'll give you $100.
And we start the game, no black person gets
anything, and we start the game, now after three
or four rolls, black folks are out of the game.
That's the society we live in and so if you have that as the
historic structure and then you turn around one day and say
we're all equal, and y'all got a black President even though he
takes up issues of immigration, i.e issues concerning latinos,
takes up issues concerning Jewish people, takes up issues
for every ethnic group and category but when
it comes to black folks it's a lecture.
You need to raise your kids, you follow, and yet they put out
this notion of post-racial, no, America has become more
intensely racial, they simply won't discuss it.
Denial doesn't eliminate the fact that the
society has a deep racial problem.