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Hello Christian Portal!
Hi Lilou!
Nice to meet with you here at the Zen Salon, in Paris...
I live around here and wanted to visit the trade show, so it worked out well!
You wrote a book on ecologic medicine
It is not a book about ecologic medicine, but a pleading for an ecologic medicine,
Ecologic medicine doesn't exist at the moment,it is simply
a concept I am developing ,on the same basis as the notions of conventional
agriculture and biologic agriculture. Biologic agriculture is an alternative to
conventional agriculture, I estimate that the lack of conventional agriculture are
the same,which justifies biologic alternatives, towards what I would call ecologic medicine.
Agriculture,just like medicine has evolved with chemistry
and now unhealthy products have been and are created.
Not only those products are unhealthy,but the thoughts behind are the unhealthy too.
In fact,in agriculture,the land is just a support where plants grow,we don't take
care of the state of that soil,we don't take care of the state of the plant,Claude
Bolignon says that we don't do agriculture, but biologic pathology.We only care about
biologic pathology and nothing else,no chemical products to make plants grow,
at the moment in conventional agriculture there are no crops,so we have the same
issues in matters of health,meaning that people have bad health because in the end
they sells products.So it is a twisted thinking taking place. We think that
microbes are our enemies, but they live with us and are a part of our
evolution.So not only do they live with us but they are ours and in us,and living
beings. Big or small can live together and not one against the others, and microbes
viruses and bacterias don't want our death.
Yes but there are constraints...
For example in agriculture we start on an idea that began in the 50s which says
we will need a very efficient agriculture to feed everyone. It is true and false at
the same time,it is partially true in our world who chose to expropriate and limit
the number of farmers,and it's the same in industry,the number of producers is limited,
meaning that the salary mass is diminished in order to keep producing more,but the
salary mass are people who buy too.So if tomorrow there are no consumers,
what will we do? This creates a quantity in the short term. I call it a 'breach crisis'
at a certain point there is a distortion between the effort of people and the
our needs. Regarding the agricultural issues in Europe and in the Occidental world,
we have indeed reduced the number of farmers,due to mechanization,and we realize
that those crops are extremely unsatisfying, the productivity level of these agricultural
patterns are extremely mediocre.For example as a comparison,the peasant agriculture,
including those in the underdeveloped world is ten times more productive
than conventional agriculture.That means that for little people a good productivity is
provided. Related to the land itself, the productivity is very weak. It could
work if we relocate peasants on the lands,in such a way that their agricultural
production could allow them to eat. This is not the case anymore. We see this for milk
producer. Thousands of peasant sell their land in order to change jobs,
for industrial ones,where people are fired in order to increase
productivity.We see clearly that we are dealing with a fundamental structural crisis.
They say that the crisis is ending, that is not true,it is only the beginning
of something absolutely dramatic,we will have more and more people losing their
jobs.The investors are the same ones that have won a lot of money out of our industry.
They took money for us in order to be able to pay for unemployment,it's extraordinary!
How do we break these circles? And How do we go back to good quality products?
Medicine and agriculture are two completely different domains...even if some think that
good nutrition avoids health problems It is important to understand here
(we have discussed emotional impact on health) that someone who experiences an
emotional impact could get the flu, a soar back or cancer as a consequence.
We must find solutions that do not kill the sick person while curing him.
At the moment,people die because of the treatment of cancer way faster than because
of the cancer itself. This is something discussed in scientific papers not in mass media.
It is important to replant the countryside and we must also replant
human beings! We come from the earth as well
and land and nature is ours to support It is our life...
But sadly we treat it bad... just like ourselves
We treat it badly...We live in a world that is very pressing and violent and we can't
count on the fact that politics or state institutions would come and change this
state of economists,investors. That world isn't in good share and
it won't stop by itself. We must take our responsibilities now.
YES,we are the ones,each of us must be the change,individually and in small groups,
little towns,spaces like AMAP,Associations for Maintaining Peasant Agriculture,so
associations gather around a farmer and sustain his agricultural activity and in
exchange they ask for healthy practices and support the farmer economically and
the farmer feeds them.
So people should regroup. What can we do on a daily basis in our life
to improve things?
In terms of health,we are facing a big challenge,because health offers
a problematic,as I proved in the book,as the vaccines that they want
to inject now,and we see that there are also aspects like the vaccines being mandatory.
We see a type of militarization,a form of predictature justified by a state of crisis,
by a sanitary state,so we must only verify if that sanitary state is true or not.
So first of all,each of us must get informed. The purpose of my book is to inform,to
awake consciousness,and there are very simple ways:simply verifying that the
information is plausible.For instance,at the moment of vaccines against the B hepatitis
all sort of things were said,also all sort of things were said about the killing flu. You know
that actually there is an important suspicion of Guillaume-Barret syndrome that could
arise when vaccinating against the flu.So the authorities through all sort of mediators
will explain that it is not very serious, because there is one case in a million
and we have seen lately on the news Jean-Daniel a journalist on France 2
announcing us that he prefers risking the Guillaume-Barret syndrome than dying
because of the A flu which would cause 500 to 1500 deaths,which is a very large
number,per one million people.In fact,500- 1500 per one million is a very large number,
but we don't realize it.It is just a number to multiply,we are 60 millions here,so we multiply
500-1500 by 60 and we get between 30.000 and 90.000 deaths.When we know that
seasonal flu doesn't cause more than 5-6000 death per year,that this flu is not
deadly,a fact that we saw in all the episodes in the southern hemisphere and in our
country already,it is a flu that causes a very small number of deaths,they want to make
us believe that it could cause almost 100.000 deaths. How is that reasonable?
This is scandalous!
So does this flu really exists?
We can legitimately ask ourselves this question. The problem is not if it exists
or not,the problem is that we are told all sort of things. A doctor says an enormity,
so,if instead of being a doctor he would have been an industrialist or an advertiser
he would have now been in court for false publicity.Under the cover of science anyone
can make up anything.We verify numbers here and there and we realize that some
numbers are impossible,some are possible, I had other numbers regarding the A flu,
for instance at the peak of the flu in Mexico, the A flu has only touched 12% of the people
who had flu.That means that the rest had seasonal flus,except 12% who had A flu.
Currently,where there are still peaks,I know that from a known source,I get the information
at Neker hospital,we are at 10% A flu.So the 90% that remain are seasonal flus.
That means that seasonal flu is more dangerous that A flu,and A flu only affects
a small number of people.
So we can ask ourselves some questions...
Why are they trying to scare us? I don't have answers to those questions,
I already don't trust vaccines,especially for seasonal diseases that we must take
over and over again...
Anyway,thank you very much Christian Portal. For more information read his book
'For an ecological medicine' in order to read more and learn more in depth
information, I encourage you to get his book now. The time is now!
Yes,I talk about them,I haven't finished with this issue of health offers that are currently
presented as non-conventional medicine, it is the exact term used by the European
Parliament,who has emitted a text,a directive on this theme,concerning
homeopathy,shiatsu,Chinese medicine, osteopathy,etc. there are 8 of them,and
of course there are others,so we can tell that they are separate practices,the
homeopath doesn't do Chinese medicine, so all is pretty tight,with competencies
that are hard to evaluate,some practices require some capacities,others don't,
In my book I encourage multidisciplinary offices of health,spaces where we are
taken by a dispatcher,someone capable of listening and understanding us and
then leading us towards the practices that you need. Of course,these places
could benefit of reimbursement patterns, or subsidies,so that it could be infinitely
less expensive than the medicine that we have now and the first that understood that
are the medical insurances that reimburses the medical care. they do it because
it is profitable,because the results of that medical care are infinitely better than the
results of conventional medicine.
Especially on the long term...
But even on the short term,because a flu would be taken care of much faster,we see
people who carry a sciatic around for 6 months,who can't work for 4,5,6 months,
that is very expensive,without counting the surgery,it is an absolute catastrophe.
Do these multidisciplinary places exists or is it just a concept that you would like us
to enroll in? Is this part of the vision of your book?
Of course the purpose to make a cal. These houses do not exist. It is my dream for now.
There are 2 big obstacles:first of all the separation of medical practices,the
doctors themselves do not look over their shoulder,they don't want to see what
happens in other doctor's practices,because they are afraid of being judged,of not
being up to the challenge...
It is a shame when our mission is so noble like taking care of others to be so turned
towards ourselves...
They are extremely worried,they are right to be,because since they are practicing an
authorized act,they become the object of justice,medical justice,which is not actually
a justice,we could say that medical justice is to justice the same as military music to
music,there are no lawyers,no correct instructions,no debates,things are judged,
some sort of inquisitional courts and for practicing medicine you need 2 things:
medical doctors,but this is not enough, they must pay their fee to the Council of
Order.
So, what is your message and call to us watching today?
I want the non-conventional medical doctors to start trusting each other,to support
each other.At the moment there are tens of doctors in law courts for reasons that are
only pretexts in order to keep them from doing practices that their patients appreciate
but that are questioned by the medical authorities.I ask those people to unite
for the good of their patients. Patients also need to unite in solidarity
towards their therapist and towards the other patients.
Thank you, Christian Portal.