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- How do you view Apple maybe 10 years from now?
What does it look like and how is it different
than Apple today in 2018?
- Right now, it's really the phone
that's the primary way that people
experience Apple.
But in the future, when you think about what they're doing
around hearables and wearables and the watch,
despite having a slow start,
it's starting to get some--
- It's turning into a nice business for them.
- Turning into a nice business.
I think that even then when you put on glasses
on top of that and potentially something around autonomous,
I think there's just gonna be more touch points.
And when you put it all together,
they're really gonna emerge as,
today they're the window into your mobile world
and I think that in the future they're just gonna be
more the window of the world
and I think that they're gonna have a lot of products
that surround us that we're gonna experience that through
and then they're gonna make money
on the services side of that.
- So what it sounds like you're describing to me
is that concept of ambient computing where--
- Ambient computing.
- You might not be gawking at a screen all day but
you go somewhere in a car or in your home
and you wanna listen to music, Apple will be there.
- It's not gonna be computing for everybody though too.
This is, I think they're still gonna stick to their
higher margins and the idea that they wanna create
great products and beautiful products that
generally work and I think that they're not gonna
change that approach and that's gonna mean that they
will still be kind of limited to this 15-25% market share
of where we're gonna be in 10 years.
- Where are the weak spots you see in Apple?
Who are their biggest competitors and biggest threats?
- I think the biggest threat is around A.I. and how
that changes the utility around these devices.
Let's say Google is successful at creating some
remarkable 10X bit better difference in terms of
how easy it is to send a text message or
just little nuances of your phone knowing
what you want to do.
That potentially is a threat.
- And their own hardware business which it seems
to be going nicely as well.
- Yes.
So that's probably the biggest threat.
There's also a threat around the handoff between
eventually the smartphone iPhone to glasses and how
that's probably gonna be the next big shift in terms of
computing at least on a hardware side.
They believe in this, this painful process
of phasing out successful products.
But whenever you do that, it creates room
for somebody else to enter stage left.
- Let's talk about acquisition.
Historically, Apple doesn't like buying companies
that large.
They spend maybe tens or hundreds of millions,
not tens or hundreds of billions on companies.
So what kind of companies do you think
they would look at to acquire or maybe
name some specific ones you think should be on the radar.
- So I think the type of acquisitions,
the kind of the two that by name
I think make a ton of sense.
One is Magic Leap, separately as companies like Peloton
which is a, you think of it as more of a
exercise, home exercise and home type of business.
But really, it's the content played.
It also plays into some of the things that Apple does
just around--
- Health and fitness.
- Health and fitness, one of Tim Cook's personal
passions and it also is kind of attention to detail
with the way they build their hardware.
But I think there is things that they could do
in the several billion dollar type of range
that could really enhance how you think about Apple.
- So I'm looking right here?
- [Producer] No, no.
Both of you are looking at--
- Oh both look at that camera.
- Okay, gotcha.