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Is it possible to prove God through observation and logic?
Some people believe it's possible and some people believe otherwise.
In the first group are many of God's apologists
while on the other side are atheistic thinkers
and theists who rather base their
worldview on faith than on reason
For these believers trying to use reason to prove God
is heresy as that is an attempt to cover God with the human mind.
Aquinas, while offering his own evidence for
the existence of God, criticizes Anselm and his
ontological argument for proving God
using logic alone.
Many theistic thinkers have sought to improve Anselm's argument and
one of the most used versions today is the modal ontological
argument of Alvin Plantinga, which is based on
system S5 of the modal logic.
Is it possible to prove God through observation and logic?
I will take Anselm's formulation written in modern language.
If I commit an error in the formilation I hope you understand it to be
a homest mistake, not that I'm introducing a straw man to refute.
Anselm of Canterbury tells us that:
1. Our understanding of God is a being
than which no greater can be conceived.
2. The idea of God exists in the mind.
3. A being which exists both in the mind and in reality
is greater, provided same conditions, than a being
that exists only in the mind. 00:01:13.35,00:01:16.50 4. If God only exists in the mind, then
we can conceive of a greater being than God.
5. We cannot be imagining something that is greater than God.
6. Therefore, God exists.
I can see to possible reactions in people
like me, who are not experts in logic and rhetoric:
it either sounds convincing or not.
In great extend, how convincing the argument sounds
comes from our presumptions and therefore are these presumptions,
rather than the rhetoric, which lead us to conclude
either God exists or not; or either
Anselm's argument is conclusive or not.
When the validity of an argument seems to depend on our presumptions
we are probably facing a formal fallacy called
begging the question (petitio principii),
of which a common example is circular argument.
I have used, and I will keep using, “rhetoric” in the broadest
sense as the art of persuation through logical arguments.
Sometimes the term is used as the art of deceive or
mislead using intentional fallacies;
but this is only part of the broader sense.
A good argument, a well-founded rhetoric
is the one that does not use formal or informal fallacies and persuades.
However, rhetorics is not reality.
A good argument is not one whose conclusion is true.
A conclusion night be a proposition in line with reality
while the argument be fallacious, or an argument can be consistently
following the premises (a good argument),
but not be in line with reality (usually
because a premise is not in line with reality).
Anselm's argument begs the question (formal fallacy)
and fails to convincingly define God (informal fallacy).
I will not refute it as many people have already
done it, including the same apologists who
wanted to improve the ontological argument:
you only attempt to improve an argument that is fallacious.
I now present the modal ontological argument
by Alvin Plantinga, which is based on modal logic,
particularly on the fifth axiomatic system of modal
logic, or S5. The argument is as follows:
1. A being has maximal excellence in a given possible world W if and only if
it is omnipotent, omniscient and wholly good in W;
(a definition) and
2. A being has maximal greatness if it has maximal excellence
in every possible world. (another definition)
3. It is possible that there is a being that has maximal greatness.
(This is a premise) Therefore, an omniscient, omnipotent and perfectly good being exists.
4. Therefore, possibly, it is necessarily true
that a maximally excellent being exists.
5. Therefore, it is necessarily true
that a maximally excellent being exists.
6. Therefore a maximally excellent being exists.
As God is defined as the maximally great being,
it is proven that God exists.
The first time I saw a version of the modal ontological argument
(without the axiomatic explanations and without a deep knowledge of
what modal logic is) I had, more or less, the same reaction
that with Anselm's argument: it is not convincing,
it only uses a more twisted rhetoric so that it is more difficult to refute.
Most attacks against Patinga's argument are similar
as refutations against Anselm's argument.
Most defenders of the modal argument critizize these
refutations pointing on ignorance on modal logic.
In my perception, Platinga does not improve substantially Anselm's
argument but just dresses it in a more sophisticated dress
There are three points I raise on Alvin Plantinga's
modal ontological argument: 1. The premise (3) is debatable.
2. Conclusion (5) depends on an axiom.
3. Rhetoric is not reality.
I have seen many attempts to prove and refute if maximal excellency,
as it is defined here, is possible in this world.
One example is the omnipotency paradox:
“Can an imnipotent god create a stone so heavy he could not move?”
o the existence of evil infront of the three omni;
as well as justifications or solutions to these arguments.
So far I'll tell that that is a debatable concept and I won't
expose my position's arguments. But when we add necessity
as part of the definition for maximal greatness,
we are somehow begging the question.
Admitting necessity as a rhetoric feature
implies that modal logic is being used as
support of modal logic which leads us to the paradox of
an self sustented axiomatic system.
When Greek geometer Euclid formulated his treatise
on geometry Elements, he stablished the existence
of three sorts of truths:
Axioms which are self-evident truths.
Postulates which cannot be proven but are truth, and
Theorems, which can be proven from axioms,
postulates and previously proven theorems.
In Elements Euclide formulated the axioms and postulates
of geometry, but one of the postulates, Euclid's Fifth
Postulate, was subject of debate until 19th century
when Bernhar Riemann proved that the Fifth Postulate could be negated
and yet we have an internally consistent geometry.
Observations that we have mate to the Universe
show us that space is not Euclidean.
Euclidean geometry, while yet is useful
in science and engineering, has a limited
scope if we want to describe that whole
known reality that is the observable universe.
In current understanding in formal sciences,
such as Mathematics and Logic, an axiomatic system
(term “postulate” is not currently used)
is consistent if it does not internally contradict and
no axiom can be inferred from the other axioms.
If an axiom is negated you have another coherent axiomatic system
(If you don't, the negated axiom is not independent and
has been proven ad absurdum as a theorem).
A theorem is true only in an axiomatic system.
That same theorem may be false or unprovable
in another axiomatic sytem.
S5 modal logic is consistent, but
is not the only possible logic.
A theoreme in S5 tells us that if something can be necessarily true
(is necessarily true in a possible world)
then it is necesarily true
(is true in every possible world).
If I negate the Euclidean accessibility axiom from S5, I will still have
a coheren system of modal logic, but I will not longer prove God.
Euclidean geomery is useful.
For most human experience the geometry Euclides
described in 3rd century B.C.E. is enough
and many non-Euclidean geometries can be described using
Euclidean geometry, replacing terms such as
plane for spherical surface and line for great circle.
Most engineering and applied cience today
is based on Euclidean geometry and Newton's mechanics.
But both Euclid's geometry and Newton's mechanics
fail to describe quantum mechanics or
relativity theory. When we step out human
experience scale, what was for Euclid
self-evident truths are not longer valid.
We can validate a system of thought
such as Mathematics or Physic laws
By its usefulness, and the same happens with rhetoric.
S5 modal logic may be useful.
What does it means a logic system is useful?
A logic is usefull if from “true” premises we
can inferr a “true” conclussion.
But “true”, according to current science
epistemology, means something
with pretictability that has not yet been proven false.
A rhetorical approach that use a consistent logic
and bring us to a conclussion from some premises,
does not proves that conclussion is true:
it proves that the conclussion is correctly inferred.
Accepting modal logic with the Euclidean property and accecpting
premise that maximal greatness is possible
(and accepting that it is valid to include necessity in the definition),
Plantinga's modal ontological argument does not proves God but
maks God dependent of a premis with no predictive value.
Alvin Plantinga does not offer a brand new and consistent
logical approach to prove God.
He basically brings a more fancy dress, called modal logic,
to Anselm's argument which is diluted in the premisse:
to define maximal greatness with existense
(or as necessary existance) as a possible feature.
Now: refuting an argument does not imply refuring the conclussion.
I cannot say that God does not exists because Anselm of Canterbury's
logic, or Alvin Planinga's logic are fallacious.
I only say that inferrence is not sound.
However my refutation is derived from certain principles,
from certain presupossitions by myself.
It comes from defining truth under current science epistemology:
propositions with predictive capacity that have not been proven false yet.
If your conception of truth differes,
then my refutation will not be convincing.
But that's for another video.