Tyt Episode 11/19/09

until sunday roasts chickens and uh... we have got an exciting an important part of it is the estes powers import no unless i would tend to act uh... ten grinder is under attack his *** their colorful right they're coming out of a lot uh... p defense zero had some very strong words from he's democrat he went on a choice program when you that second first we want to know the republican attack uh... it's by ranking house republican on the joint economic committee things heaven brady's from texas now of course lee he's gonna come out of a little bit of the wrong direction says he's going to try to put the whole economic mess on beggars lap as guided tries to explain in this clip because is a direct confrontation he was they've got it was a part of the committee uh... that they inherited a lot of that master got up light back and forth but brady keeps going to have a lot of the liberal don't like you to cancer does not like you would be doing wrong and that's a fair question let's watch the whole uh... you know confrontation here and it gets heated and then uh... will come back and talk about was right was wrong uses president was elected it's appropriate for the american people assess by how well this administration's economic policy is working and they are not and they have failed unemployment skyrocket far past white house and projections and promises america continues to shed jobs more than two point eight million since a stainless when it was an active you've had a series of embarrassing investigations about all the while students claims the latest take jobs from fake congressional districts in today channel counting office will be able yet more scandals within the stimulus a claims in in the case which thousands of recipients claimed jobs and they have not yet received money uh... the u_s_ has the worst performance in terms of unemployment rate among the major developed economies since the stillness bill was act enacted worse mast really a receipt and a worse than european union japan south korea not to mention china industries the white house and secure you promised but have the most job creation manufactured construction has seen by percentage the greatest job losses the deficit is becoming frightening and threatens our economic recovery the budget challenges we face with medicare and uh... so security fannie and freddie mac the been left unaddressed we are reduced to beijing china to buy our death in giving lectures from other nations on our financial disarray while they discuss replacing the dollar with a more stable reserve currency much the tarp money still hidden from taxpayers eyes like in the public's v wall street is still getting a bonuses and major businesses and small businesses are doing their key investment decisions as a washington moves on on certain issues health care reform cap and trade burdensome new regulations announced a new tax increase the six year you are the point man on the economy of the buck in effect stops with you that uh... bork's several months of conservatives in cap on capitol hill has called for you to step down last night uh... congressman peter defazio so there is a quote growing liberal consensus uh... that uh... sector got mentioned being removed back what we need a new economic team conservatives agree that as point person you fail liberals are growing in net consensus as well polled after poll shows the public has lost confidence in this america in his presence billy to handle the economy for the sake of our jobs will you step down from your post congressman uh... i a m is a great privilege for me to serve this president 'em i think it's important to start welcomed the advice beer providing after you left did you give this president economy falling off the cliff values american savings cut almost in half millions of americans out of work again the worst financial residents moderation reminding mr sanitary what pose for you holding president bush left office this remind me what you cannot post revolted by it was the president of the federal reserve bank in europe great honor and privilege in this letter letter bank have any oversight over the economy or any input into this performance the federal reserve established by congress is responsible for try and make sure that we keep a low inflation low and stable over time in our user king responsibility for the design of the bailout or its rival the inkatha actions of the congress made possible too late but made possible ethical were absolutely necessary to breaking the back of the financial panic and without those actions and the actions the president put in place with the congress support of many people in the congress begin this year if you have an economy still falling not growing you'd have job loss still look sell rating not slowing repented died america saving still falling not rising they have a lot of other things that has been singled out for that one of the best bet created several quad really in new jobs is that right president again is just a basic fact eight year ago pay your ago this economy with the falling at the rate of six percent a year we were losing between half a million and three quarters a million jobs a month and that process was excel reading not slowing into the president fifteen and took office now secretary the public has lost all confidence in your ability to do the job as a reflecting on your president comprised of conservatives agree liberal democrats agree there really is time for expressed our and i would bergeron has a concise constantly again justin m joan luminous frivolous 'cause if you look at any measure of consumer an investor confidence today if you look at any measure of the strength and stability and health of the american economy if you look at any measure of confidence in the financial system heat is substantially stronger today and when the president is took office and that happened not on its own it happen because of a set of difficult choices and this economy cannot come into this simply facing with a better grayson generations it came into this with eight almost a decade certainly eight years of basic neglect of basic public goods in health care in education in public infrastructure in how we use energy and fixing those problems is a central obligation this congress telstra all of that the millions of americans who no longer have jobs because of your decision they would've had they would have had more jobs will be more confidence more people in this country if we had not left this crisis gets but the warning that it did and we would have had a stronger fiscal position if we did it eight years of packing for our commitments not borrowing and they're not gonna departments images a br you have a five minute for your decision like that i don't like so that mentality is no question i mean yesterday on the program idea as to why don't the senators and congressmen go after these guys that passed by a lark asked and answered birthday uh... well in this case kevin brady delivered update now having said that is the first time that i felt bat for tonight okay because the attack was half their half on for in fact them the heart of the attack was on fire saying hello dollies bad numbers is in new york for and as geiger was saying hey listen we we turn these numbers around you gave us a time bomb where all the numbers unemployment was growing at an unbelievable rate and the economy was criterion anomaly rate with turn those around and we or not it where we want to be and to be fair jim brady said he did not meet their unemployment projections for the white house did but it turned out was around them unemployment continues to grow but at a much slower rate it's a mixed results for the first year and you know i'm no fan a gardener abut i think that brady's be unfair by pretending that all this happen in the last year when the time bomb went off and they've been try to stop the bleeding uh... in all bomb a white house now having said that now here are some of prep was a premature projections were off and you gotta be countable took that for that number two you don't have the right of his son jobs look jobs keep going there if that's the number one issue we keep losing more and more jobs and what did you do and honestly geithner uh... put as a priority shoring up the banks which he then thought well that'll trickle down the jobs but it hasn't and as one of the main prayer complained that uh... progressives have against him dot at the serbs have that complain and they do they show that they have i'd bet you my opinion the wrong remedy for that of course is usually a side cut taxes hate but at least they're right about the performance so it so it's it's a mixed bag here and he was right to say hey wait a minute now icy at one part of this regressive ek economy has recovered that's wall street bonuses very true and they still have your travel responsibility here but what was your position while time bombs going off because he did talk about the last eight years last eight years that you're doing is that that he's right about that but brady's right to point out that he was the president the new york but and he'd was asleep at the wheel when the time bomb went off it was his job regularly and yasin about was you're on the bella and dinero along with hank paulson even during the bush administration world was one of the principal offers for the better so you know got yours is in trouble there because conservative at least has happen or public in this case is about half of this points that are correct which is stunning success record for the republicans is that age but now here he gets trouble from the left peter facile on a shelf program h also set up by first explaining much goldman sachs is getting invoices and how they've stardust up on to help small businesses are they not merciful but it's actually three percent of the bonus is that they're going to take home and he brings in back i span p defense you know when we pick it up there not on today one cannot progress can be made to make sure that part money good words really go to stimulate the economy small business in infrastructure well that's our money uh... it was born in the name of the american people it was borrowed through a bailout wall street which has worked famously for goldman sachs and others uh... you know we think it's time ah... maybe that we've been turn our focus to main street uh... we reclaim the unspent funds reclaim some of the funds that are being paid back which will not be paid back in full and we use it to put people uh... back to work uh... rebuilding america's infrastructure there is a tried and true way to put people back to work unfortunately the president has an advisor from wall street larry summers and a treasury secretary from wall street to meet dot your uh... who don't like uh... that idea they want to keep the tarp money either to continue to bail out how wall street as their future problems or maybe dinner does not want to give the money to small businesses hard money now they had their say mcginnis may go to keep the money they may be more news on wall street or maybe they should use it to pay down the deficit that's absurd we borrowed the money how do you pay down the definitely stay at his job congressman used to think him back there should be gone as treasury secretary study the space if you look back at the eighties scandal in goldman and the others uh... who got their bats paid off in full instead of saying well you bet you lost you know they get paid back in full with taxpayer money out through a ideally channel the money through them geiger would not answer my question when i said were those naked credit default swaps by goldman or were they counterparty he said i will not answer that question i think they were taking credit default swaps they were bats they should not have gotten their money back so he's not coming clean with the congress uh... absolutely ok so what have you ever think obama administration to remove hamper will you uh... would be a populist caucuses considering the uh... questions regarding both him and uh... some other members of the economic team that in the near future okay so there's been talk in the halls of congress among some progressive democrat said maybe it's time to ask the obama administration to remove jim gardner my hearing that correctly anything is being filled by his economic team their total orientation is wall street not main street not real jobs i mean okay let's get has all the gold and a lot of all it's not i've got firms in my district that power solvent very little that and they can't get money out of the credits caramel at one o'clock wells fargo it's absolutely ridiculous what was his announcement a few weeks ago that they were going to get money that you made any plans for a long time progression admiral left i can tell you about a lot of the apartment signs of a they made an announcement that they were going to get this in this chart money to community banks what you know where that is right now not but we're still waiting that there's no one of no new lending it to my small businesses in my communities and how many congressmen and a house do you think would go along with his room well when you mention either died or larry summers as they were mentioned in the democratic caucus on jobs on monday night uh... there is a losin' cries of derision uh... i think there's a growing consensus macaca as we need a new economic team that cares about more about jobs mainstream american people and it does about wall street huge bonuses i tell you what congressman this job summit thing that's coming up for the white house staff in december is like the super bowl of the economy that are released a major player of the n_f_l_ isaiah flowing they have the sacrifice just two more jobs to get millions back for america knows straw or is there he's gotta go uh... wishes sacrificed to jobs of course on about geidar larry summers when their names are mentioned a democratic caucus people blue and they're not even in the room there is a blanket just on that that i mean that's while and now as to congressman defends yourselves in the points they are right on the head first of all you said that we were to give the big banks in gartner larry summers and that that would come down to the smaller banks the community banks and i would eventually it was small businesses but it hasn't it hasn't gotten out of the small businesses you have a let the money is that you're taking it all take it home in bonuses exactly what we warned you about and the other show we said they're not going to give it to other people they're not gonna if they're not toward it and then is there anything as much as they possibly can in bonuses and go home and that's exactly what they're doing now so that's off a hundred percent point but look out of the card in there if that's your had maybe the most important point when he had gotten a fiber he passed that thirteen billion dollars that's a lot of money went through from the american taxpayer dankie to goldman sachs that was a bet that we paid off on a i_d_'s behalf to goldman sachs was that i make a credit default swap what were they counterpart i know that's confusing let me just again clarify that for you this is so important if they're counterparty that means they were hedging their bets and that have is a business all the time but if you growing corn in asher uh... what the court market's going to be by the time it you know you're at the crop comes in you had your bet and you do if you might do what they call a derivative on right so if you're counterparty that's normal business to some degree okay to a large degree but if it's a naked credit default swap it's just a bet their they have nothing to do with it and it just made a casino that they've bet on black with a bet on that and paying that off with our money we've had yes telephone topic i was in the country on our show saying well that ought to be criminal i mean that that's crazy by paying off you know some crazy gamblers bats with taxpayer money charles barkley loses eight million dollars are bill but it does or someone at a casino an american taxpayer picks up the bill why why would we do that and what's amazing is that uh... it it will have had some of the top reporters in the country are it on this show and i'll ask them wasn't naked or were they counterparty and no one has answered i found out why they don't have an answer distributor will give you the answer i meet asked in-house you know and meetings and he's brought in for a house that ask him which one is that this is i would tell you a loving gergen you're gonna get so what the treasury secretary who will tell well you're not going to tell the house uh... whether you pay off a bit or whether they were legitimate a party to that transaction that's crazy that can't be tolerated so that's why jim guy pearce should be fine a government watchdog came out just this week with a report this evening report about tim geithner saying he funneled not just goldman sachs thirteen billion dollars but overall for the top banks through they are g taxpayer money of one e seven billion dollar they're saying bulldozed best didn't have to be paid off the government watchdog is saying that the guy was put in charge a c was getting done or right a wrong by democrats and republicans facing paying no opening those bits off at a hundred percent is mental if you're gonna pay them off at all their best case scenario on the whole print market if you're going to try to get their money back from someone that was in the government passed would be sixty percent and we would save tens of billions of dollars to the american taxpayer and brighter to throw the bill sign the check and save you the goldman here you go j_p_ morgan here you go citigroup et cetera paid a mall law it is look if he's working for the banks used to work great job for the top banks in the country he's working for us he's doing a horrible job explains that the other day all this is you know we had to do these bailouts geiger says it every chinese for in front of congress we had to do the bailouts otherwise economy would crash but that's not the only question the other part of the question is how did you do the bailout you didn't have to give away all of our money to goldman sachs and other guys when they were just making at the scene of that no de reports that had to be done in parts of did not have to be done now you know look let me give you some final that notes on a financial reform as it makes it through its we're way through congress and if you just give me a sense of the enormity uh... the reforms that are in play here week weekend worm begging the banks even a week in the money and now they're taking home and and eyes tell you that you right now two thousand nine record amount of bonuses going to the top for backs record better than at their prime inclusive sentosa lit a candle all that money uh... all we're asking a mistake and we at least see the director's bets you made can you do them in an all been market so people know what they are fair say kept that's off when i tell you okay i had a big embed i like and then if i pose bust you have to pay for now the house that is reconsidering a loophole that they had been there directors reform bill you know the size of the loop hole was thus far order of it fifty trillion-dollar and guess who push without loophole stay with me he wanna put in the so-called reform bill fifty trillion-dollar loophole well if you put the loop on there of course are all going to do it through or in derivatives as all other really i got this withdrew from the cayman islands and i had a from switzerland insider and i was simple flying a complicated issue but overall that fifty trillion dollar loop what was insanity now by liberal lot of pressure the house democrats have been thinking maybe we should close that loophole and that is even to regulate these guys is just to find out the transactions that they're making nana *** durbin was right the banks run the place they run congress and they start rerun tim geithner and larry summers the defense heroes right and shockingly enough brady uh... is the republicans from from texas somewhat right gliders gotta go he's gotta get fired poisoning the administration young turks tak koi acha not not double wall street with and are backing out of work that was cool all right now but wanted you know how much of that uh... the top for banks films actually people riches merrill lynch him or his family have earn the first earned quote on quote different uh... nine months of two thousand nine twenty-two and a half billion dollars that we pretend they earn that money waves i'd just told you the government watchdog said we paid off twenty seven billion dollars invest we should note to those gaps is that our money yes it's our money now how are they so successful grabbing it from us twenty-five of the top recipients of government bailout funds uh... in this year alone uh... have spent seventy-one million dollars so far in the year in lobby seventy one million dollars a month the so let's get this straight as to how the monies floor it goes from past the top banks atop expected and a funnel at tiny tiny percentage of it to the politicians arctic you know enormously please about money litigating indicated and if so then the water down the reforms so then the banks get more money bottled water the politicians towards the coming from a lot of it not all that but a lot of it this coming for a month it's mental for us to allow any of these companies that received taxpayer bailouts phil obvi congress are you kidding me there a lobbying us lobbying congress on buying our politicians to work against our interests with armani i'm and then guidera summers ago come tell me i don't know we've been tough on the banks uh... out of here uh... all right now out by the way to give me a sense of what creek stare uh... and it i want to clarify when along randomness or long explanation this in one of our posted they're not all crooks victim some legitimate business they're not all bad guys i got a friend who works at goldman sachs but i would the high school with a get their motivations we can't even make try to make all the money you wanna meet apples were all as long as you're not taking taxpayer money to do it and as long as you're not committing crimes like j_p_ morgan did they went and hoodwinked uh... a local community well it'd be a good week that community not the partition they bought the politicians how do we know david maybe guilt in court in jefferson county alabama they pay off uh... local politicians there to do a swap exchange that no one else understands but here's the bottom line and then is a very long story and i'm in a simple fight for it they were supposed to get that's walker exchange seven hundred million dollars j_p_ more from jefferson county alabama about their new financial shenanigans and nobody finds out and and increase in this case quite illegally with bribes local politicians let them manage their money and so that they could follow it it'd be more and now that we found out about illegality a are bad sure will pay uh... twenty five million dollar civil fine at fifty million dollar payment for the county because we're planning a rob them of seven million dollars and will forfeit the six hundred forty seven million dollars in termination fees that we had claim to fraudulent transaction this is one county alabama in the country how many counties are they robbing of six hundred and forty seven million dollars and exp they do so often recently won a million dollars no worries about money right but the time i mean they're running these things all the shell games all the time when they say when the guy was a safety we caught you on this one fair some other than ours up and i'll prob face essential apartments that argument there coz did did i miss whiting but seventy million dollars to compose the bankrupting a company right okok nothing that week values that ultimately we're going back to your but you can see that pop up billie's restaurant over yet know we're doing a great job of regulating the banks are keeping an eye on that tim geithner did when he was the president of the new york that great job one last note on that uh... that finally at some of the members of the house of the democrats including paul controller ski who was leading the effort that is proposing have a bill that would uh... break-up banks that are too big to fail it's a very very simple concept bernie sanders has pushed it in the senate if you're too big to fail you're too big to exist so if you say hey you know what if these uh... banks go under for this particular bank goes under the american taxpayer has building up 'cause them economy collapsed the nature of a case s we should find a sensible way doing equal number of things i mean breaking them up is the last time certainly regulating them figure out a way for example one of things you can go without these proposals of soul logical that they are absolutely obvious but they're not doing obvious why because again seventy one million dollars in lobbying but now in this case there are some good got and it's shocking with all of them politicians of the banks the bot the dish so some good guys fighting the good fight there's a lot for example we could do is it into a transaction uh... you need to have only a certain amount of leverage is if you leverage yourself and the one we get that self-financed works if you'll ever yourself four hundred a-one as some of the derivatives are well that if you don't obviously that it's going to cause tremendous stress and you subject yourself to being uh... the minute there's a fluctuation in the market and then if you're bankrupt then we're all on the report so no we're not gonna let you do that great piece of legislation being proposed it has and absolute uphill battle uh... if bit geiger and summers and all bomb we can't label bomb out of this he's the boss he's the one making all the wrong decisions in allowing this treasure department going this way and the white house keeps *** although effective reforms coming out of the house and the senate being that are being propose right with the white house position on this of course the helmet now my god i would bother got his friends of the backs they calm all the time it's on what to do is that you can't have controllers he actually putting the alleged solution that make sense i get worked up on this thread 'cause they're taking our money it's crazy at what will this not what the white house should do is is that i had to be developed in a business actually makes perfect sense we don't want to but the american taxpayer on the report and so they say hey efforts tax free on the report with a what the sons of *** of the banks collapse economy again and they will it's only a matter of time unless we do the reform we'll reform strong report if they do it again economy collapses and the republic's blame all bomber figure the right i know you know the republicans would have gone wars they don't want to do any of these regulations are no vote against ninety percent of these regulations of the residence is that they're not going to sell the supported uh... reform that makes sense last week and we went ballistic and celebrating is a republican from alabama in ninety-seven cases they're wrong but it doesn't matter if they're wrong or right right now they're not in charge if the democrats here on it doesn't matter what the republican proposal would have been or what they wanted dot they're gonna claim all you know we would've done it right and the whole country is going to believe that and if you do that wrong oh bummer you collapses economy late no was fall put your own public eyes right now inside the administration data points summers on other issues from a man and the longer that opa mistakes with them the longer it's his fault and he's responsible for their actions and he ought to know that all right now look i'm gonna go on ad that are to health care reform here and john conyers at gives you a sense of house that up the house democrats are with how reluctant the white house is to push for real change when asked uh... about uh... or bombers leadership in-fighting for health care reform here the john conyers had the same uh... has he been stronger quote of course not of course not you know holding hands out and beer on friday night in the white house and bally down at every nadi right wing proposal about health care as saying on occasion the public options are all that important is doing a disservice to the brock obama that i first met who was an barton single-payer enthusiasm cell mean think about it hound for we are personal prayer who shared brown racial matters program the other day he broke it down divided seven or eight compromises we went down and that without a single compromise coming from the right wing part of this equation and in the beginning although almost for single payer he gets in the white house repairs out the door compromise one two three four five six seven eight and here comes guy is again on it that is essentially what rahm emanuel ascent just give us anything now will declare victory and what he's referring to is ron menacing over and over again and john conyers is not miss this may have public passion yes public auction oh who cares uh... you know in this compromise acecomm price just give us something will call up a lot of a victory i don't have actually been this is what i'm talking about when i see poisoning the administration prime news continues not only is it not a victory but what it does not work guess will come at a the same guys uh... that we're seeing let's go along with anything those all my buddy rahm emanuel is trying to get anything but look the bell doesn't know it out there for three years many people have to that we're trying to help will be dead by then and he's referring at the end there the fact of the bill does anything it started twenty thirty minutes of the mandate star the helped with pre-existing conditions that originally this senate version i think it's not going to twenty fourteen and starts before we even get the hell twenty four p that's five years from now and went out running manual pushing for the trigger and the trigger would get triggered five years after those five years and you wonder why we're not why were worried an aggrieved and inordinate by ron emmanuel and the white house who are not fighting hard enough this is not the change we asked for not the chains we voted for young turks back on the outskirts uh... calicut davis wrote a i've used it uh... he's author of hostile takeover of course it is written in a syndicated column where the real deficit hawks had been what about the for at a permit uh... first today the senate ounce of their version of the health care reform bill para read it and every single article says that they will cost us eight hundred and forty eight billion dollars and they say the houses virtual hostplus one trillion dollars venue uh... tells why that is fair say the least mislead well because if i could saying that if i uh... by uh... stock for a thousand dollars and i make uh... eleven hundred dollars on my investment that uh... the investment cost me a thousand dollars well uh... technically true the investment cost a thousand dollars but i've made a hundred dollars congressional budget office report uh... for both the house and senate bill uh... says it that these bills cost about somewhere between eight hundred and nine hundred billion dollars that the outweigh that the investment but that through it's tax changes and through it it's uh... budget cuts cuts too you know private insurance subsidies to medicare it will recover for more that it spent of the house bill recover about weapon billion dollars about a year in total so at the end of ten years uh... the house and senate bills will cover somewhere between a hundred and two hundred billion dollars at the end of of ten years the deficit based on just the impact of the health care bill will be about a hundred to two hundred billion dollars of left that's the real story that's the real cost of these bills because we go to the taxpayers alternately will make back more than they did that so uh... let's get this straight in the in the house version it did and the ten years receiving a hundred eleven billion dollars and in this endeavor zhen event attendees were saving a hundred and thirty billion dollar now how bout other programs uh... where for example as you point on your com defects do we save any money back war we just doing outlays surreptitiously accused outlet or you could argue that when you spend money on defense it akin to some form of of stimulus spending right it's like you know you beat that but do you spend money in that theoretically creates jobs in that case theoretically creates tax revenues but just got a straight-up budgetary basis the way you know comparing apples to apple's the way the congressional budget office scores the health care bill because dot could you could make them argue with health care plan uh... you know that uh... health-care expenditures going to create jobs if you want to compare apples to apples what goes out in a bill verses what comes again in a bill health care bills propose spending eight hundred and nine hundred billion dollars and their tax and budget cutting changes would recover about nine hundred billion to uh... a trillion dollars with a net gain of a hundred billion dollars to two hundred billion dollars at the end of the day defense built uh... the one-year one-year defense bill which spend it six hundred thirty six billion dollars in one year so over ten years that somewhat seven trillion dollars over ten years and that there are no tax uh... or budget-cutting provisions in the pills so apple to apple here talking about saving two hundred billion dollar dot health care uh... and the work spending you know reducer increasing the deficit by flooding trillion dollars with the defense where is your point that out is because starr whether it's the sort of opponents oracle server democrats whatever they say they're concerned about the deficit they mentioned health care which actually reduces the deficit which makes no damn sense at all or uh... but they never mentioned defense spending aso lieberman for example loves spending more money in iraq and afghanistan that money never gets back to us that he never mentions the deficit their is that he brought it up exactly what's going on and you know i mean i look i've got this modicum of of respect for people who are obese donna ideologically consistent me i don't agree necessarily with people like ron paul on everything but at least he's a guy mister programmer i don't know support health-care spending and i'm willing to vote against really wasteful uh... defense programs and then even that sometimes the the defense's dale if the problem is you said a is that there's a hypocrisy here is good at it and i have called the before both states selective deficit disorder deficits only matter when the government is spending uh... on the middle class priorities but when the government is spending on defense contractors or tax loopholes or corporate tax subsidy suddenly became people who say their they care about or worried about deficits are worried at all says davidson written a book stop rising in hostile takeover you know it's something interesting sabri ended uh... that populist uprising that you predicted uh... icy and it's interesting 'cause i see it on the a left-wing sundial tattooed on the right wing citing just are misdirected a daughter they're angry but they don't know what to be angry about so they get tricked by the banks in the enemies of the world how long can they keep this up with you know that guys or pretending to be conservative party actually cooperatives and they're doing the bidding of the lobbyists who pay them their money while pretending to take advantage of the right wing populism how long can they keep it up before figure that out well i think they can bake they can keep it up for as long as the democrats are welcome to keep it up i mean did visit the more the contrast to the drawing i think the better that's why i think ultimately uh... the health care debate will be good for democrats because i think that the republicans will be again on and they will oppose health care and some but i think what we're what we're saying it's not perfect but it certainly better uh... than the status quo and the democrats will will be able to draw if they continue to attempt to fight you know in the right way they'll be able to drop the this precise contrast i think nell that's the problem they've got a better idea that that that is certainly uh... people probably i think what we started out with the everybody's not going to he's not going to passing in the uh... health care bill with just fifty one votes to be reconciliation process so you're right it would be democrat band and let's be fair you know that there are some democrats who are part of this problem the blue dogs in the house for instance who voted against health care here's a guy quarantine jerk yes votes four at the most imploded defense spending bills in our country's history remember and particular shocking statistic it was national journal two months ago the reported that the democrats in congress and president obama are on track in the first term here of the obama administration to spend the morning single presidential term but any single presidential term spent on defense since world war two and you know they has some programs the helicopter for the president has matteo but not nearly enough and they actually have some help from john mccain and they should use it to go out further but of course that as a political price they don't want to get our political price that finally david i think the real problem here it is the media the media keeps saying all the bill costs eight hundred and forty eight billion dollars a cost a trillion it cost to cost although he was as i would say that as his concern about the deficit they treat as if it's a legitimate point so we come back to that i'd you know i'm tired of asking about gotta ask if we gotta keep insisting on it what is it agreed it was the media and all this and they don't want to tell the american people or they're just so damn *** that they can't understand the simple concepts that i think i think the media understand uh... sipes reporters who cover budget matters understand this i think you what it is in instead is that the media uh... understands what is going to be uh... a headline that is waved around and what isn't they understand the existing political dynamic which is the unfortunately it's not controversial to pass a six hundred thirty six billion dollar deficit expanding wind written pentagon budget bill controversial to try to pass uh... uh... eighty billion dollar a year ago that's what it is eight two billion dollars over ten years eighty billion dollar-a-year health care bill so you get you know the group he stories if at all about deep defense bills and you get the health care bills com headlines the point that is going to be most inflammatory rhetoric not technically what understate the health care bill will require our way of a hundred occurred in a billion dollars india booted groups are honest and misleading say that without saying that over ten years they were actually save money and that's what the media dot google blogs you know i want to potential right davis world author of the uprising and hostile takeover thanked us that we process they check and uh... the senate in a column by david is excellent check it out uh... and uh... he's been caller right for a long time now finally by promising michael savage earlier in the show we're going to be michael savage uh... he's got a different take on the cliche mohammed trial in who should be tried instead well it certainly is unique clip rip-off their parish from of guantanamo who are going to be tried by military tribunal marshy area mohammed now why would they take to all of them and bring them to new york while allowing to leave the other three for military tribunal yes restrict politics because holder as committed an act of criminal act is in my opinion had frankly the government should try to hold it for this act there's no reason that congress can hold a hearing bondholders motivations ando bon is motivations these adjust your minds digestion synagogues holders and world war he said we are at war so why is it now violating a supreme court precedent that you tried war criminals in the military tribunal one reason only to attack the political opposition no other reason period of the story that's it what else do you want to talk about houston texas mario you're on the savage nation in aren't michael or i am electoral mariah carey uh... really think that uh... reason why he's doing this this is the this way you can show that he's above the law because of those people who are not going to get a fair trial and they're going to end up sending back where it came from their doors and they're not going to be a disneyland depots akki lunatics from n_y_u_ colombian homer lol document cockpit i'd people in the law profession we're going to defend these *** have their way not only will they be found in this until one of suing the american people and winning a fortune if the perpetrator the greatest war crime on our soil that's was level happen i think that the lawyers who defend and should be thrown into a prison with them and then being be transported to yemen i think the lawyers who would defend them should be sent to yemen that's my opinion how very american yes lawyer said the friend criminals should be locked up in jail this is guy understand anything about the united states of america anything at all it's on real by the way i'm a little by circus who i wore those cockamamie prozac says the whatever you call those lunatics that went to columbia law i've should also be locked up on sure according to her look at how quick they wanted to hearings on though bob made ministry when they said unacceptable to ever do mon book listen to these lunatics right young turks ride strongest notwithstanding