Reassembling Events @hp Preceding Concussions

(This call is now being recorded.) Hey, hey. Can you call me back? What? I'm sorry. I thought I heard... I thought I heard like an operator cut onto the call for a second. What I heard, I thought I heard somebody say something about being recorded. That's why I rushed to say, can you call me back. That was a little bit creepy and that's not the first time I've had that on an HP call. It's just a little bit strange. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what it is. I'm calling you from my office line so I mean it's not an HP line. I mean, it's from my house. This is my, this is my personal cell phone. Yeah. I'm not sure what's going on Darren. I mean, I'm really not. If you wanna call me back, feel free to call me on my office line. I'm not over worry about anything. I'm not saying anything to worry about here. I guess my net net. We could mull over that or, better. if you have directions for me, please share. But that's not where I am, I'm kind of at this point where I'm thinking, wow. That was some great stuff to learn and explains why I was so antagonized by Jan. There's totally a dynamic behind it. It doesn't really matter to you because she's gone. It matters to me because, if I ever encounter anything as extremely unique like that again, I'll be completely prepared for it. But I know damn well, Bill, it took away the focus that I, it started from the beginning. It constantly was this battle of reactionary. Okay. I found a way to get more organized with Jan. Okay. I'll get in trouble for it. And the cycle continued, continued and it does play out something from my childhood from bully days. Jan learn about that from the newspaper article. It got really bad. . I don't mean to be rude or insensitive but let's move forward. You know, I can't deal, I'm not, I'm not equipped to deal with that and it its not part of what I'm supposed to be doing. You know,. (crosstalk). And so, I'm just trying to give you the realistic outlook. I don't see this working. No, I was gonna... I'm probably, I'm probably two weeks away from telling you, hey Darren, you got 30 days. You know, you can resign or, you know, uh, do what you want, but I'd like you to spend the next 30 days transitioning accounts. Um. And we're not quite there yet, but I'm just telling you, that's were this is headed. Okay. Then let's there and let's do appointment. Bill, I share this not to do anything but to share it. I'm just kind of methodically open. (crosstalk) but I just can't. I mean, I'm not supposed to be even going there. Well then, I'll make sure to share it publicly. There is no liability, though, I'm just, I'm brought it up to mention something about it. The one thing important to share with you as my boss is that I've learned from it and I've learned. (crosstalk). I'm acknowledging it impacted my work. I'm acknowledging that a couple weeks after her being gone, it was completely clear that that was my dynamic problem. I have a great personal work with Jan. I have a strategic business. I'm trying to tactically bring it in six weeks. You know, it doesn't look like I'll get 100%. So let's proactively figure out what the plan is and deal with it. I looked like this. I mean, it, you need to get rid of me and put somebody new and because politically, you're never going to be able to say, you know what, Williger went through some ***. I want to give them a chance to restart this. company. (crosstalk). It really isn't political, Darren. It's reality. I've got a business that I am held responsible for. I think I can get away with one person up in Illinois because, over the last two years, there hasn't been enough business developed to, um, um, justify two people. So my plan to get resource and redeploy down to Texas. That's what I'm planning on doing. Um. You know, it has nothing to do with politics. It has everything to do with business. The only thing I will say is, you know, you were given enough runway, I just can't give you any more runway. If that's politics, that's politics but I mean, there's certain standards of which you have to adhere to and two years to build a business is probably a year longer than most people get. I'm not going to win any argument with this. I'm just pointing out, that Gov. Walker sucked the budget out of the public sector and we had some internal weirdness. Considering the complications, when you get into 98.5%, I feel somewhat proud of that number, to be honest with you. I mean, and that's good, Darren. What I'm saying is, as of today, and I don't see this changing in the next six weeks, I don't need two people up and that part of the country. I do need somebody additional down in Texas. And my plan, as of today, unless something drastically changes, is to proceed with that, um, you know, beginning the next half. Um. And, you know, I'm sorry about that but I mean that's where we are. I mean, I just, you know, I've got things, I've got a new area that actually seems to be developing, coming along pretty well. I'm fairly optimistic about it. But I had to take it resource out of Texas to put into that area to make that happen and now I realize I probably shouldn't have taken a resource out of Texas. I probably should've taken it out of Illinois, Wisconsin, you know, Indiana area. Um. And so I need to redeploy somebody down to Texas, in the Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Arkansas territory. Um. And it's just what I have to do for the business. You know, I think if I was given you or anybody else, you know, a year to develop a business up there versus what I would get by having one person versus what I would get in that year by adding some in Texas, I think it's a no, I mean, there's no doubt in my mind, the bigger return on, on, uh, investment is putting somebody in Texas. And, you know, I don't have the option of relocating you down to Texas. One we go under budget, secondly they wouldn't let me do it. No. No right now. Um. And that's, I mean, that's, that's where I am today. Um. You know, you know, I told you I, you know, again, I'll be straightforward with you. Now if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Um. You know, if somehow, sometime in the next six weeks, it proves me wrong, then I be pretty happy about that. Um. But, you know, I, I, we've been doing this now, we've been talking about this now for a couple of months and really nothing's changed, as far as I can tell from a business, from a business, from a business standpoint. It's just beginning to but the same token, Bill, if what you're telling me is already thought through. I'm sure it is. You wouldn't be having this call with me if it wasn't. I respect that about you. Then there's really no point in me doing a song and dance, of doing those partners meetings, stuff like that. It may be more valuable for you for me to gather up more intel about the accounts on working the, stuff like that, so that you have that. What I, regardless of how this got, you know, I've been pretty clear. I mean, I think the best thing you can do, the best thing you can do for yourself and for the company is to bring in all the business in the next week, six weeks you can. Two. (crosstalk) Oh, absolutely. The only way this could change,uh, although I'll think there's going be enough to be able to do that. Secondly, you'll get paid the most money that way. And then third, from a company standpoint, that's the best thing we need, that's the thing we need right now.. (crosstalk) I was going to two and three. I, I'm going with two and three. It sounds pretty clear that my job's dead in two months and it gives me two months to learn to accept that and, you know, that's more than a lot of people get in life. Additionally, the money part of that, that's what I was thinking. I'll just, the two and three is. The two, yeah. I'll make some money. And three, it shows you the respect of me cranking this off knowing that I will be walking away, and that may earn a lot of your respect. And I'd like that. Like I said, Darren. I mean, I'm going to, this is going to be the position that we eliminate at the, um, the role. Um. It was just a business decision based on the business conditions. Now I'd love to be able to say that plus, oh yeah, by the way, you know, he knew this was coming, you know, couple months out and works his butt off and brought in all the business he could and showed a lot of professionalism. I think I would be a good recommendation, um, to get. I mean, I, given, I guess, the best in a bad situation. I, I'm looking for the best of a bad situation. Although I have to look at any, any career I've been graced life to date and I've only had a few, as relationships. Similar to my relationships with women. I've had a few, and they were significant and there's very many similarities between having a career and having a relationship. And there's many similarities between having a company and having a family. So for me, I look at both of those things. And when it comes to that relationship part, that's the f-ed up part of my brain that doesn't make a resume while I'm still here even knowing I've got six weeks left or I think this call's the one that will help me to get off my butt this weekend and do so. That's the dedication side. That's the relationship side. The family side, yeah. I can see where I've got a lot of cousins who really dig me and some aunts and uncles. There's still a couple of, uh, stepsisters who may not get along, kind of thing, and some others that are great. Overall, I look at the net net and I say, you know what, where would Darren Williger be and where would HP if this relationship didn't come together a couple years ago and is there any kind of harm on either side? I think, when it comes to doing that net, there's some positive there, I would like to think. Yeah, I think so, Darren. I think, I mean, that's what it's like in general. I think you can take positives out of anything. Um. You know, look, I, I, I'm not happy with the way this went. I'm not, you know, um, this isn't how I would've chosen it. It's not how I saw it going. But we are where we are today and, you know, I, you know, I can't change that. Well that's it, though. I don't think either of us anticipated this being like this or been appealing towards either of us. any sense. I think that what we have to do is, yeah, I guess count the cards on the table and figure out how to stack them neatly. On both sides and keep it clean, keep it good and, yeah. There's a lot of planning to put into something like this, and obviously, I've not done any successory planning to my life. That was one of the points you've made, that the point that, you know, I talked to Scott briefly just about where he's at with stuff, and he's told me he's always prepared for the next week. And I need to be too. There's a German word for checkmate called where you want to be very careful if you know your about to hit checkmate because the moves you make could theoretically make your position even weaker. You could lose more pawns or bishops but, you know, at the end of the game, you're going to be checkmated. So I think I'm at a point of accepting and recognizing how to play the rest of the game with style in a way that, you know, you and I are good. And I do have some positive take away from it. but hey, things happen. Darren was good with it. And that's what we do. Um. And that's, I mean, I think that's how we need to, you know, proceed, Darren. I mean, take the weekend, think about it. I'll think about it. We can catch up early next week. But, like I said, the best thing for you to do right now is to be focusing on bringing in as much business as you can. Um. And, you know, we'll just, you know, do the best with what we can and try to move on. The last part you said, well that's the obvious one. Let me, there's more motivation to aggressively hunt than ever before because I'm not going to see the dollars after, it sounds like, any real, let's say 1% chance in hell that I will have a job after the15th of May. I may as like get a little aggressive out there just reaching out for every crazy opportunity. Worst-case that happens is I hit my number. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So, yeah. I can play that. And then we want to just estimate what I work with you on whatever kind of story. Obviously I've got too many gears sometimes it seems with the social thing. I log into it yesterday and Nasdac and Microsoft and video and I'm sure a lot of, because of HP people, had a lot of HP people, like and stuff. And I'm almost thinking, I've gotta be real careful what I say but anything. Not just in that regard, but I started thinking about it too from a company regard. I want to make sure it's something, something good so it keeps the three shares of stock I have continuing to grow. Okay. So hey, look Darren, let's talk early next week. Again, I'm, you know, I've tried to be, you know, I've tried to do what I can. I've tried to be straightforward with you. I think we both understand where we are now. Um. And, you know, I want this to proceed in as positive a manner as possible, given the circumstances. I do too. Of course. I mean I, you know, if I could do one thing for you well, then I'll go peacefully, kind of thing. Tell me what you need from me, Bill. I already made it clear during our last call that part of what I really wanted to achieve here was to make you look good, to do some kind of crazy, to do something. That's where, even the weird stuff with, was kind of a last ditch chance to do something out of the ordinary on your behalf. Give me tasks. Give me stuff I can do. If there's something I do that makes your life better and so that it's like, wow, I have a lot of respect for Darren, that means more to me than a lot right now. Yeah. So, you know, I think, you know, I think what I said is what I need you to do, Darren. I need you to deliver as much business as you can. Deal. Um. So, okay. Uh. Let's catch up next week, Darren. Yeah. I'm just I started a new practice of making notes so that if I have a call with you, I make sure that I hit on any notes that I brought up before the call. Okay. the call earlier, I was going to ask about the half thing, but it doesn't do like that matters too much. Um. Review the target accounts that you had me, I was assuming I'd be sitting in Milwaukee or Harley-Davidson as backup for the main. Uh. Mention the Z's I'm bringing in and to build on my past several months. Yeah. Okay.. Yeah. So I guess that's it. I don't, I guess the target doesn't matter as much or you hadn't picked a specific... You know, Darren. Right now we're in the here and now. The short-term. Yeah. That was more for next half? Yes. Okay. Did you want to give me a pretend one for me to have when my peers ask? That would be fine too. Uh. Harley-Davidson. Thank you. Okay, I'm going to point it out, the other thing I can't take any type of risk of doing is allowing any type of this to be known by the team. It brings everyone down. I want to make sure that everyone recognizes pushing forward. Okay. I mean,, I'm not planning to share the plan stuff. I almost feel obligated to tell Pam so she doesn't waste time. But she's not. If I'm bringing her deals, she's not wasting time. All right. And think that's right. I agree with that assessment, by the way. Cool. Yeah, I, I spent yesterday trying to be your shoes a little bit. And you know what? I had no disrespect saying that. I have no clue what it's like. But I was able to at least think of a few things and I so it worked. And Pam reports to Berkeley? Is it, or... Yes. I believe so. Now I'm going to write a note just, um,you know, thanking her. CC you and Berkeley on because she's been really cool. Okay. Good. That would be a nice thing to do. And keep it, well she even reached out yesterday. Her dad is in the hospital. She's by his side and she's reaching out, can I help with quotes? I've heard she's very good.. I that I keep finding similarities. I asked her what her dad did or used to do and he was with IBM for several years in the mainframe guy. Really? So was mine. So that was a little interesting. She's a, she's a kindred spirit, but when it comes down to it, Bill, she's somebody with a tech background who knows how to get the job done. She does things in 10 minutes, I previously never saw in days. So wherever she goes to, she is probably our best. All right. We'll thanks. I mean, I think that's be nice to drop her a note. Definitely. So. All right. I'll let you go. I'll early next week with some. And, um, I appreciate the candor. but definitely good to, you know, have a little runway. All right Darren. Good luck. Thank you. Bye. (This call is now being recorded.) Oh. Crap. Hang up, hang up, hang up, hang up. Or, hang on. Bill?